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Bari Weiss - The Twitter files, Part 2

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  • MikM Offline
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    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • George KG Offline
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      George K
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      #7

      Oh...my.

      Blacklists:

      Charlie Kirk
      Dan Bongino
      And the doc who was right:

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • HoraceH Offline
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        Fun stuff.

        Education is extremely important.

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        • George KG Offline
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          George K
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          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            HoraceH Offline
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            @George-K said in Bari Weiss - The Twitter files, Part 2:

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            Recall at the time, the very word "facts" was political. The good guys knew what "facts" were, and Twitter was unequivocally a good guy.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • HoraceH Horace

              @George-K said in Bari Weiss - The Twitter files, Part 2:

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              Recall at the time, the very word "facts" was political. The good guys knew what "facts" were, and Twitter was unequivocally a good guy.

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              George K
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              @Horace said in Bari Weiss - The Twitter files, Part 2:

              a good guy.

              DaFuq!

              You're a biologist?

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • George KG Offline
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                George K
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                #12

                image.jpeg

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  Tucker is eating this up

                  It is pretty bad

                  The twitter employees who did this are trash

                  The questions will be, did government officials use twitter to prevent free speech? And when will they be put in jail?

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                    We should just rename every Twitter thread “Bad First Amendment Takes”

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    • CopperC Copper

                      Tucker is eating this up

                      It is pretty bad

                      The twitter employees who did this are trash

                      The questions will be, did government officials use twitter to prevent free speech? And when will they be put in jail?

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                      George K
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                      @Copper said in Bari Weiss - The Twitter files, Part 2:

                      The questions will be, did government officials use twitter to prevent free speech?

                      Did the government talk to Twitter? Yes.
                      Did the government say things that were pretty nonspecific? Yes.
                      Did the government warn about specific things? We don't know.

                      And when will they be put in jail?

                      Now you're just being silly.

                      But the revelations tonight about how Twitter out-and-out lied about their behaviors and policies are interesting.

                      Weiss said, "Much more to come."

                      Seen on someone's blog: "Meanwhile, the United States is in crisis because of a popcorn shortage."

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        We should just rename every Twitter thread “Bad First Amendment Takes”

                        HoraceH Offline
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                        @jon-nyc said in Bari Weiss - The Twitter files, Part 2:

                        We should just rename every Twitter thread “Bad First Amendment Takes”

                        Granted you can dunk on the notion that this is a violation of the first amendment per se. Unfortunately for the left, that does not close the whole conversation.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                          #17

                          At least this thread is somewhat more revelatory then #1. We all kind of knew ‘shadow banning’ of accounts was a thing, though Twitter denied it. I’m not sure how many people really believed their denials but now we have receipts.

                          (Let’s remember Elon has announced he’ll retain the ‘shadow ban’ concept but at the tweet level rather than the account level)

                          I’m waiting for the confirmation that they did stealth removal of followers for disfavored accounts. I saw enough complaints about it, usually with accompanying data, that I’ve always found it credible. Some was probably bot removal, especially back in the day when Trump would complain about it, but I have little doubt that some was real.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                          • George KG George K

                            @Copper said in Bari Weiss - The Twitter files, Part 2:

                            The questions will be, did government officials use twitter to prevent free speech?

                            Did the government talk to Twitter? Yes.
                            Did the government say things that were pretty nonspecific? Yes.
                            Did the government warn about specific things? We don't know.

                            And when will they be put in jail?

                            Now you're just being silly.

                            But the revelations tonight about how Twitter out-and-out lied about their behaviors and policies are interesting.

                            Weiss said, "Much more to come."

                            Seen on someone's blog: "Meanwhile, the United States is in crisis because of a popcorn shortage."

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                            jon-nyc
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                            @George-K said in Bari Weiss - The Twitter files, Part 2:

                            And when will they be put in jail?

                            Now you're just being silly.

                            I suspect it’s simple ignorance.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

                            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                            • HoraceH Horace

                              @jon-nyc said in Bari Weiss - The Twitter files, Part 2:

                              We should just rename every Twitter thread “Bad First Amendment Takes”

                              Granted you can dunk on the notion that this is a violation of the first amendment per se. Unfortunately for the left, that does not close the whole conversation.

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                              @Horace said in Bari Weiss - The Twitter files, Part 2:

                              @jon-nyc said in Bari Weiss - The Twitter files, Part 2:

                              We should just rename every Twitter thread “Bad First Amendment Takes”

                              Granted you can dunk on the notion that this is a violation of the first amendment per se. Unfortunately for the left, that does not close the whole conversation.

                              I shall continue to dunk, the left be damned.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

                              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                @Horace said in Bari Weiss - The Twitter files, Part 2:

                                @jon-nyc said in Bari Weiss - The Twitter files, Part 2:

                                We should just rename every Twitter thread “Bad First Amendment Takes”

                                Granted you can dunk on the notion that this is a violation of the first amendment per se. Unfortunately for the left, that does not close the whole conversation.

                                I shall continue to dunk, the left be damned.

                                HoraceH Offline
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                                Horace
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                                #20

                                @jon-nyc said in Bari Weiss - The Twitter files, Part 2:

                                @Horace said in Bari Weiss - The Twitter files, Part 2:

                                @jon-nyc said in Bari Weiss - The Twitter files, Part 2:

                                We should just rename every Twitter thread “Bad First Amendment Takes”

                                Granted you can dunk on the notion that this is a violation of the first amendment per se. Unfortunately for the left, that does not close the whole conversation.

                                I shall continue to dunk

                                That's what Sam Harris did when he discussed this issue recently. He's capable of a more nuanced conversation, as I'm sure you are. There are other things about this to discuss beyond whether it is strictly unconstitutional.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                • HoraceH Horace

                                  @jon-nyc said in Bari Weiss - The Twitter files, Part 2:

                                  @Horace said in Bari Weiss - The Twitter files, Part 2:

                                  @jon-nyc said in Bari Weiss - The Twitter files, Part 2:

                                  We should just rename every Twitter thread “Bad First Amendment Takes”

                                  Granted you can dunk on the notion that this is a violation of the first amendment per se. Unfortunately for the left, that does not close the whole conversation.

                                  I shall continue to dunk

                                  That's what Sam Harris did when he discussed this issue recently. He's capable of a more nuanced conversation, as I'm sure you are. There are other things about this to discuss beyond whether it is strictly unconstitutional.

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                                  jon-nyc
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                                  @Horace It's not like I bring it up out of the blue, it's only in response to expressed misunderstandings. And the first few times I did it (including in a response to you) I was very polite about it. But it's getting a little old so I confess some snark comes out.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

                                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                    George K
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                                    Time to update the Wikipedia entry.

                                    Screenshot 2022-12-09 at 8.22.54 AM.png

                                    Oh, it was "the algorithm."

                                    But wait, it didn't happen at all, @jack told us that.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      George K
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                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        Horace
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                                        We will have to wait for Twitter moderation to be mostly right-leaning, to learn from the experts why it’s unconstitutional and an existential threat. Till then there will be nothing to see here.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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