Taibbi - The Twitter Files, Part 1
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wrote on 4 Dec 2022, 16:05 last edited by jon-nyc 12 Apr 2022, 16:07
I think you’re also misunderstanding the first amendment. The government can make all the moderation requests it wants. It’s only some kind of enforcement that would be unconstitutional.
Also (not directed at you Horace), I see some RW commentators salivating at the prospect of someone going to jail for violating first amendment rights. Even putting aside the fact that no such first amendment violations occurred, if the government does violate your first amendment rights you take the government to federal (civil) court. It isn’t the case that government functionaries get arrested.
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I think you’re also misunderstanding the first amendment. The government can make all the moderation requests it wants. It’s only some kind of enforcement that would be unconstitutional.
Also (not directed at you Horace), I see some RW commentators salivating at the prospect of someone going to jail for violating first amendment rights. Even putting aside the fact that no such first amendment violations occurred, if the government does violate your first amendment rights you take the government to federal (civil) court. It isn’t the case that government functionaries get arrested.
wrote on 4 Dec 2022, 16:08 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Taibbi - The Twitter Files, Part 1:
I think you’re also misunderstanding the first amendment. The government can make all the moderation requests it wants. It’s only some kind of enforcement that would be unconstitutional.
Again a loophole that has obvious ethical hazards. Nobody is so naive to think the request is not transactional in some way. And if it's in any way transactional, it should not be happening.
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@jon-nyc said in Taibbi - The Twitter Files, Part 1:
I think you’re also misunderstanding the first amendment. The government can make all the moderation requests it wants. It’s only some kind of enforcement that would be unconstitutional.
Again a loophole that has obvious ethical hazards. Nobody is so naive to think the request is not transactional in some way. And if it's in any way transactional, it should not be happening.
wrote on 4 Dec 2022, 16:12 last edited byI doubt it was perceived that way at all. Most of the ‘trust and safety’ (sic) team were fellow travelers and didn’t need much convincing.
Also from the emails Taibbi released it looks like there was discussion and, at the margin, disagreement about what to delete and not. They don’t seem to be behaving as if they’re taking orders.
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I doubt it was perceived that way at all. Most of the ‘trust and safety’ (sic) team were fellow travelers and didn’t need much convincing.
Also from the emails Taibbi released it looks like there was discussion and, at the margin, disagreement about what to delete and not. They don’t seem to be behaving as if they’re taking orders.
wrote on 4 Dec 2022, 16:18 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Taibbi - The Twitter Files, Part 1:
I doubt it was perceived that way at all. Most of the ‘trust and safety’ (sic) team were fellow travelers and didn’t need much convincing.
Also from the emails Taibbi released it looks like there was discussion and, at the margin, disagreement about what to delete and not. They don’t seem to be behaving as if they’re taking orders.
Zoom out to the level of the social value of the friends one makes and does favors for, and it becomes transactional by definition. In any case the appearance of impropriety and the ease with which real impropriety could be plausibly denied makes such a situation fraught with hazards. Hazards which, were the shoe on the other foot and the Trust and Safety team were Trumpists in 2019, would be considered existential to the democracy.
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wrote on 4 Dec 2022, 19:19 last edited by
According to The Resident, anyway.
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wrote on 4 Dec 2022, 23:51 last edited by
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wrote on 5 Dec 2022, 02:01 last edited by
George, seems like the guy you’re quoting misread that.
The tweet he quotes does not contradict what Twitter told the FEC.
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George, seems like the guy you’re quoting misread that.
The tweet he quotes does not contradict what Twitter told the FEC.
wrote on 5 Dec 2022, 02:06 last edited by@jon-nyc yes. I was unclear.
What the FEC statement says that they didn't receive requests from the Biden campaign about the the NY Post articles.
But, the the emails show is that the Biden campaign DID interact with Twitter regarding other issues that they found problematic.
Though the two statements are not the same, they are not necessarily contradictory.
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wrote on 5 Dec 2022, 02:09 last edited by jon-nyc 12 May 2022, 12:53
One imagines that if Taibbi finds a request to suppress the laptop story from Team Biden he will happily release it.
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wrote on 5 Dec 2022, 12:53 last edited by
I suspect that hot potato was a phone call.
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wrote on 6 Dec 2022, 21:43 last edited by
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wrote on 6 Dec 2022, 21:56 last edited by
I can understand the perspective that Taibbi's read of the document dump does not warrant a wikipedia entry currently.
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wrote on 6 Dec 2022, 21:59 last edited by
There’s a long entry on the Hunter Biden laptop controversy. Maybe it should be a paragraph or two in there.
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wrote on 6 Dec 2022, 23:09 last edited by