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  • LuFins DadL Offline
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    LuFins Dad
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    Here are 2 questions for you… We have a raised bed that I built 2 years ago with pavers and decorative cinder block. The back of the bed is directly against the wooden fence..

    1. The fence needs a good cleaning (no, it really needs replaced with a composite, but that’s not till next year. Getting the paver patio built wiped me out…) but I’m hesitant to use any cleaner where it might splash onto the soil for the garden. We’re still 2-3 weeks away from putting anything in the garden. Think it would be safe to clean it now, then just dig out the top 2 inches of dirt and replace? Or are there any safe cleaners out there?

    2. I’ll be sealing the paver patio in 6 weeks. I would also like to color/lock the pavers on top of the wall. I’m using a spray water/poly sealer for the patio, but I’m thinking of pouring some into a paint tin and using a roller for the top of the wall. Do you think that will suffice but keep the plants and vegetables protected?

    The Brad

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    • MikM Offline
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      Mik
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      Clean the fence in the fall. Test the soil next spring if you can. Maybe your county agricultural agency.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

        Here are 2 questions for you… We have a raised bed that I built 2 years ago with pavers and decorative cinder block. The back of the bed is directly against the wooden fence..

        1. The fence needs a good cleaning (no, it really needs replaced with a composite, but that’s not till next year. Getting the paver patio built wiped me out…) but I’m hesitant to use any cleaner where it might splash onto the soil for the garden. We’re still 2-3 weeks away from putting anything in the garden. Think it would be safe to clean it now, then just dig out the top 2 inches of dirt and replace? Or are there any safe cleaners out there?

        2. I’ll be sealing the paver patio in 6 weeks. I would also like to color/lock the pavers on top of the wall. I’m using a spray water/poly sealer for the patio, but I’m thinking of pouring some into a paint tin and using a roller for the top of the wall. Do you think that will suffice but keep the plants and vegetables protected?

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        Jolly
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        #41

        @LuFins-Dad said in Square foot gardening:

        Here are 2 questions for you… We have a raised bed that I built 2 years ago with pavers and decorative cinder block. The back of the bed is directly against the wooden fence..

        1. The fence needs a good cleaning (no, it really needs replaced with a composite, but that’s not till next year. Getting the paver patio built wiped me out…) but I’m hesitant to use any cleaner where it might splash onto the soil for the garden. We’re still 2-3 weeks away from putting anything in the garden. Think it would be safe to clean it now, then just dig out the top 2 inches of dirt and replace? Or are there any safe cleaners out there?

        2. I’ll be sealing the paver patio in 6 weeks. I would also like to color/lock the pavers on top of the wall. I’m using a spray water/poly sealer for the patio, but I’m thinking of pouring some into a paint tin and using a roller for the top of the wall. Do you think that will suffice but keep the plants and vegetables protected?

        Simple Green is safe around plants, I know. I think Clorox makes a diluted bleach that works, too. Or you could try something vinegar based.

        Might want to cover the end of the bed with visqueen or an old plastic shower curtain. I think you'll be fine.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • HoraceH Horace

          Anybody do square foot gardening or gardening in raised beds in general? I have a south facing wall where the fence casts a shadow just about to the base of the wall, where a raised bed should work well. I got a 32" tall Vego, which I'll put into a 2.5' x 9.5' configuration. I'm excited, and I'll definitely start eating more vegetables if they are a product of my own work.

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          #42

          @Horace said in Square foot gardening:

          Anybody do square foot gardening or gardening in raised beds in general? I have a south facing wall where the fence casts a shadow just about to the base of the wall, where a raised bed should work well. I got a 32" tall Vego, which I'll put into a 2.5' x 9.5' configuration. I'm excited, and I'll definitely start eating more vegetables if they are a product of my own work.

          IMG_0848.jpg

          There may be a flaw in my plan. When the sun gets straight overhead, as it almost does in and around June, the roof may cast a shadow over part of the garden bed. I’m imagining mirrors now to compensate.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • CopperC Offline
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            Copper
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            #43

            High maintenance, but good for the environment

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              Have you considered cutting a hole in the roof overhang?

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              • 89th8 89th

                Have you considered cutting a hole in the roof overhang?

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                Horace
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                @89th said in Square foot gardening:

                Have you considered cutting a hole in the roof overhang?

                That’s ridiculous. I can just move the house over a couple feet.

                Education is extremely important.

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                  89th
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                  #46

                  N00b, that wouldn't change the angle of the sun. You would need to rotate the house a bit.

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                  • jon-nycJ Offline
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                    #47

                    Can you use the back yard?

                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      Can you use the back yard?

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                      Horace
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                      @jon-nyc said in Square foot gardening:

                      Can you use the back yard?

                      no, the south facing side with the solid fence is perfect for it. Tucked out of the way and not attracting HOA attention.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                      • HoraceH Offline
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                        Horace
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                        I’m getting some watermelons now. Growing noticeably every day. Huge fruit requires huge plants. I think watermelon vines were what inspired Scott Smith to write The Ruins.

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                        Education is extremely important.

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                          There are two plants there but I can’t know which watermelon comes from which plant. I have three fruits which survived the preemie stage, and they’re all growing fast. I hope they’re split 2 on one plant and 1 on the other.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                            My nephew has a small raised be garden that has the most tomatoes I've seen on a couple of tomato plants (Early Girl) in a long, long time. I don't know where his soil came from or how it is mixed, but when he built the bed he put in an irrigation system whereby he can run liquid fertilizer through the system.

                            I guess all that money his dad spent on that MS in ag, allowed him to soak up how to grow tomatoes...

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              https://www.tiktok.com/@excopcarfiveo/video/7154273441003212078

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                              • MikM Offline
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                                Looks quite successful! How many melons do you have so far?

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                • MikM Mik

                                  Looks quite successful! How many melons do you have so far?

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                                  Horace
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                                  @Mik said in Square foot gardening:

                                  Looks quite successful! How many melons do you have so far?

                                  I've had probably 20 little watermelons, but they tend to shrivel and die as preemies. There are three that made it into adolescence, and they are growing visibly every day. I'm hoping they are split between my two plants 2 vs 1, but I can't know, because the vines are spaghetti.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                    Nothing better in summer than an ice cold bowl of watermelon chunks.

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    • MikM Mik

                                      Nothing better in summer than an ice cold bowl of watermelon chunks.

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                                      @Mik said in Square foot gardening:

                                      Nothing better in summer than an ice cold bowl of watermelon chunks.

                                      Yep I love it.

                                      One interesting thing about watermelon vines is that they grow roots, if they rest on soil. Then there's the clinging shoots that wrap around and grab anything they grow into, which allows them to climb. One of them choked out a few of my basil leaves. Evolution is amazing.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                        Nature is metal.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        • HoraceH Horace

                                          @Mik said in Square foot gardening:

                                          Nothing better in summer than an ice cold bowl of watermelon chunks.

                                          Yep I love it.

                                          One interesting thing about watermelon vines is that they grow roots, if they rest on soil. Then there's the clinging shoots that wrap around and grab anything they grow into, which allows them to climb. One of them choked out a few of my basil leaves. Evolution is amazing.

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                                          @Horace said in Square foot gardening:

                                          One of them choked out a few of my basil leaves

                                          @mik said:

                                          Nature is metal.

                                          Yeah, a stop-action video would be cool to watch.

                                          Two plants struggling to become the apex predator.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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