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  • HoraceH Horace

    Time to plant stuff. I’m thinking snap peas, basil, thyme, carrots, then who knows. I would like to explore blackberries or raspberries.

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    Jolly
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    @Horace said in Square foot gardening:

    Time to plant stuff. I’m thinking snap peas, basil, thyme, carrots, then who knows. I would like to explore blackberries or raspberries.

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    Think planting dates for South Louisiana:

    https://www.lsuagcenter.com/profiles/bneely/articles/page1481835882715

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      Think you might be late for sugar peas. Or potatoes.

      Tomatoes (plants), radishes, herbs, snap beans, sweet corn, cucumbers and squash could go in

      Okra and eggplant will be a mite later.

      But you're limited on space... I'm thinking two or three tomatoes, herbs, a bit of radishes, some carrots...But that's just me. Plant what you like and what will fit.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        Think you might be late for sugar peas. Or potatoes.

        Tomatoes (plants), radishes, herbs, snap beans, sweet corn, cucumbers and squash could go in

        Okra and eggplant will be a mite later.

        But you're limited on space... I'm thinking two or three tomatoes, herbs, a bit of radishes, some carrots...But that's just me. Plant what you like and what will fit.

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        @Jolly said in Square foot gardening:

        Think you might be late for sugar peas. Or potatoes.

        Tomatoes (plants), radishes, herbs, snap beans, sweet corn, cucumbers and squash could go in

        Okra and eggplant will be a mite later.

        But you're limited on space... I'm thinking two or three tomatoes, herbs, a bit of radishes, some carrots...But that's just me. Plant what you like and what will fit.

        Thanks Jolly, that helps. I have some different carrot seeds but will go with their recommendation of Danvers 126. Also i have their recommendation of watermelon. Maybe I'll go ahead and try that one. I'm just past the snap pea date range, but I'll give it a shot.

        Education is extremely important.

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          Watermelons spread out a lot. May not want to put that in a raised bed

          The 126 is a good carrot. Spring carrots aren't quite as sweet as fall carrots, since they don't over-winter, but they are still superior to grocery store carrots. Some folks eat the tops, along with the carrot, but I never have.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • JollyJ Jolly

            Watermelons spread out a lot. May not want to put that in a raised bed

            The 126 is a good carrot. Spring carrots aren't quite as sweet as fall carrots, since they don't over-winter, but they are still superior to grocery store carrots. Some folks eat the tops, along with the carrot, but I never have.

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            @Jolly said in Square foot gardening:

            Watermelons spread out a lot. May not want to put that in a raised bed

            The 126 is a good carrot. Spring carrots aren't quite as sweet as fall carrots, since they don't over-winter, but they are still superior to grocery store carrots. Some folks eat the tops, along with the carrot, but I never have.

            I’ve read about watermelon trellises, including watermelon hammocks. I have to try. A heavy watermelon would put a huge dent in Mel’s mix. That stuff is incredibly light and airy. Almost a perversion of real soil. But it works, or so I’ve read. Carrots will pull out with zero force.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • HoraceH Horace

              @Jolly said in Square foot gardening:

              Think you might be late for sugar peas. Or potatoes.

              Tomatoes (plants), radishes, herbs, snap beans, sweet corn, cucumbers and squash could go in

              Okra and eggplant will be a mite later.

              But you're limited on space... I'm thinking two or three tomatoes, herbs, a bit of radishes, some carrots...But that's just me. Plant what you like and what will fit.

              Thanks Jolly, that helps. I have some different carrot seeds but will go with their recommendation of Danvers 126. Also i have their recommendation of watermelon. Maybe I'll go ahead and try that one. I'm just past the snap pea date range, but I'll give it a shot.

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              @Horace said in Square foot gardening:

              I'm just past the snap pea date range, but I'll give it a shot.

              Someone told me to try horse manure on my rhubarb. I have to say, I still prefer custard.
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                Here are 2 questions for you… We have a raised bed that I built 2 years ago with pavers and decorative cinder block. The back of the bed is directly against the wooden fence..

                1. The fence needs a good cleaning (no, it really needs replaced with a composite, but that’s not till next year. Getting the paver patio built wiped me out…) but I’m hesitant to use any cleaner where it might splash onto the soil for the garden. We’re still 2-3 weeks away from putting anything in the garden. Think it would be safe to clean it now, then just dig out the top 2 inches of dirt and replace? Or are there any safe cleaners out there?

                2. I’ll be sealing the paver patio in 6 weeks. I would also like to color/lock the pavers on top of the wall. I’m using a spray water/poly sealer for the patio, but I’m thinking of pouring some into a paint tin and using a roller for the top of the wall. Do you think that will suffice but keep the plants and vegetables protected?

                The Brad

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                  Clean the fence in the fall. Test the soil next spring if you can. Maybe your county agricultural agency.

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                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                    Here are 2 questions for you… We have a raised bed that I built 2 years ago with pavers and decorative cinder block. The back of the bed is directly against the wooden fence..

                    1. The fence needs a good cleaning (no, it really needs replaced with a composite, but that’s not till next year. Getting the paver patio built wiped me out…) but I’m hesitant to use any cleaner where it might splash onto the soil for the garden. We’re still 2-3 weeks away from putting anything in the garden. Think it would be safe to clean it now, then just dig out the top 2 inches of dirt and replace? Or are there any safe cleaners out there?

                    2. I’ll be sealing the paver patio in 6 weeks. I would also like to color/lock the pavers on top of the wall. I’m using a spray water/poly sealer for the patio, but I’m thinking of pouring some into a paint tin and using a roller for the top of the wall. Do you think that will suffice but keep the plants and vegetables protected?

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                    @LuFins-Dad said in Square foot gardening:

                    Here are 2 questions for you… We have a raised bed that I built 2 years ago with pavers and decorative cinder block. The back of the bed is directly against the wooden fence..

                    1. The fence needs a good cleaning (no, it really needs replaced with a composite, but that’s not till next year. Getting the paver patio built wiped me out…) but I’m hesitant to use any cleaner where it might splash onto the soil for the garden. We’re still 2-3 weeks away from putting anything in the garden. Think it would be safe to clean it now, then just dig out the top 2 inches of dirt and replace? Or are there any safe cleaners out there?

                    2. I’ll be sealing the paver patio in 6 weeks. I would also like to color/lock the pavers on top of the wall. I’m using a spray water/poly sealer for the patio, but I’m thinking of pouring some into a paint tin and using a roller for the top of the wall. Do you think that will suffice but keep the plants and vegetables protected?

                    Simple Green is safe around plants, I know. I think Clorox makes a diluted bleach that works, too. Or you could try something vinegar based.

                    Might want to cover the end of the bed with visqueen or an old plastic shower curtain. I think you'll be fine.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • HoraceH Horace

                      Anybody do square foot gardening or gardening in raised beds in general? I have a south facing wall where the fence casts a shadow just about to the base of the wall, where a raised bed should work well. I got a 32" tall Vego, which I'll put into a 2.5' x 9.5' configuration. I'm excited, and I'll definitely start eating more vegetables if they are a product of my own work.

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                      @Horace said in Square foot gardening:

                      Anybody do square foot gardening or gardening in raised beds in general? I have a south facing wall where the fence casts a shadow just about to the base of the wall, where a raised bed should work well. I got a 32" tall Vego, which I'll put into a 2.5' x 9.5' configuration. I'm excited, and I'll definitely start eating more vegetables if they are a product of my own work.

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                      There may be a flaw in my plan. When the sun gets straight overhead, as it almost does in and around June, the roof may cast a shadow over part of the garden bed. I’m imagining mirrors now to compensate.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                        High maintenance, but good for the environment

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                          Have you considered cutting a hole in the roof overhang?

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                          • 89th8 89th

                            Have you considered cutting a hole in the roof overhang?

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                            @89th said in Square foot gardening:

                            Have you considered cutting a hole in the roof overhang?

                            That’s ridiculous. I can just move the house over a couple feet.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              N00b, that wouldn't change the angle of the sun. You would need to rotate the house a bit.

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                                Can you use the back yard?

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                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                  Can you use the back yard?

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                                  @jon-nyc said in Square foot gardening:

                                  Can you use the back yard?

                                  no, the south facing side with the solid fence is perfect for it. Tucked out of the way and not attracting HOA attention.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                    I’m getting some watermelons now. Growing noticeably every day. Huge fruit requires huge plants. I think watermelon vines were what inspired Scott Smith to write The Ruins.

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                                      There are two plants there but I can’t know which watermelon comes from which plant. I have three fruits which survived the preemie stage, and they’re all growing fast. I hope they’re split 2 on one plant and 1 on the other.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                        My nephew has a small raised be garden that has the most tomatoes I've seen on a couple of tomato plants (Early Girl) in a long, long time. I don't know where his soil came from or how it is mixed, but when he built the bed he put in an irrigation system whereby he can run liquid fertilizer through the system.

                                        I guess all that money his dad spent on that MS in ag, allowed him to soak up how to grow tomatoes...

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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