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  • HoraceH Horace

    @89th said in Square foot gardening:

    Any critters to be concerned of? The height should help, but there is a garden bed in my neighbor's yard I can see from my office and I often watch rabbits and squirrels enjoy the buffet. Granted theirs isn't raised, nor is it guarded by a Horace with a 12 gauge.

    Also...if needed, you can adjust the sprinkler to more of a mist I'd imagine.

    If you really cared about the environment, you would redirect that downspout to water the garden. But not everyone is pro-earth like me.

    I'm concerned about the critters and will put up fencing or netting as appropriate. I also have a fig tree that I will be guarding with my life.

    It is a fine idea to collect the rain water in a container and use it for watering. They sometimes talk about how much money you'll save by growing your own veggies, which I suspect is nonsense, but if you don't pay for the water, that would help. Our water bill last month was $200. The sprinkler program had a bug.

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    @Horace said in Square foot gardening:

    @89th said in Square foot gardening:

    Any critters to be concerned of? The height should help, but there is a garden bed in my neighbor's yard I can see from my office and I often watch rabbits and squirrels enjoy the buffet. Granted theirs isn't raised, nor is it guarded by a Horace with a 12 gauge.

    Also...if needed, you can adjust the sprinkler to more of a mist I'd imagine.

    If you really cared about the environment, you would redirect that downspout to water the garden. But not everyone is pro-earth like me.

    I'm concerned about the critters and will put up fencing or netting as appropriate. I also have a fig tree that I will be guarding with my life.

    It is a fine idea to collect the rain water in a container and use it for watering. They sometimes talk about how much money you'll save by growing your own veggies, which I suspect is nonsense, but if you don't pay for the water, that would help. Our water bill last month was $200. The sprinkler program had a bug.

    No, you probably won't save money. The veggies will taste better, though. Especially tomatoes.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      Finally assembled the bed yesterday. Now I’ll fill it with cheap stuff in the bottom half, and homemade soil in the top half. I’m going with vermiculite, compost, and peat moss in equal proportions. I will put something under the lower rim to level it off.

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        #19

        Think you'll have enough sunlight?

        Bed sounds like maybe a modified hugelculture?

        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hügelkultur

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • JollyJ Jolly

          Think you'll have enough sunlight?

          Bed sounds like maybe a modified hugelculture?

          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hügelkultur

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          @Jolly said in Square foot gardening:

          Think you'll have enough sunlight?

          Yes, the fence shadow doesn't touch the base of the wall. Should have full sun across the whole top of the bed.

          Education is extremely important.

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            Speaking from experience, it is more efficient to place a dead body in now before you put in the soil.

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            • 89th8 89th

              Speaking from experience, it is more efficient to place a dead body in now before you put in the soil.

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              @89th said in Square foot gardening:

              Speaking from experience, it is more efficient to place a dead body in now before you put in the soil.

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              Education is extremely important.

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              • 89th8 89th

                Speaking from experience, it is more efficient to place a dead body in now before you put in the soil.

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                @89th said in Square foot gardening:

                Speaking from experience, it is more efficient to place a dead body in now before you put in the soil.

                First place the law will look.

                Chop the body up and feed it to the hogs. Most guys won't dig around in a muddy hog pen.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  @89th said in Square foot gardening:

                  Speaking from experience, it is more efficient to place a dead body in now before you put in the soil.

                  First place the law will look.

                  Chop the body up and feed it to the hogs. Most guys won't dig around in a muddy hog pen.

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                  @Jolly said in Square foot gardening:

                  Chop the body up and feed it to the hogs. Most guys won't dig around in a muddy hog pen.

                  LOL. Have you ever watched "Deadwood?"

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • George KG George K

                    @Jolly said in Square foot gardening:

                    Chop the body up and feed it to the hogs. Most guys won't dig around in a muddy hog pen.

                    LOL. Have you ever watched "Deadwood?"

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                    @George-K said in Square foot gardening:

                    @Jolly said in Square foot gardening:

                    Chop the body up and feed it to the hogs. Most guys won't dig around in a muddy hog pen.

                    LOL. Have you ever watched "Deadwood?"

                    Not a single episode...

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • JollyJ Jolly

                      @George-K said in Square foot gardening:

                      @Jolly said in Square foot gardening:

                      Chop the body up and feed it to the hogs. Most guys won't dig around in a muddy hog pen.

                      LOL. Have you ever watched "Deadwood?"

                      Not a single episode...

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                      @Jolly said in Square foot gardening:

                      @George-K said in Square foot gardening:

                      @Jolly said in Square foot gardening:

                      Chop the body up and feed it to the hogs. Most guys won't dig around in a muddy hog pen.

                      LOL. Have you ever watched "Deadwood?"

                      Not a single episode...

                      There's a character, "Mr. Wu," who has a pig sty near his home in Deadwood. He helps get people "disappeared."

                      https://www.grunge.com/147158/the-disturbing-true-stories-that-inspired-deadwood/

                      Deadwood's Mr. Wu was notorious for his method of disposing of inconvenient corpses: He'd simply feed them to his pigs. Was there any truth to it?

                      Ehhhh. Deadwood really did have a group of Chinese residents, but Jerry Bryant, the resident archaeologist and research curator of Deadwood's Adams Museum says (via True West) that's about where the historical accuracy ends. Bryant says there were no instances of feeding anybody to the pigs, but it wasn't entirely creative license.

                      In 2002, police raided a Vancouver farm belonging to Robert Pickton, who would eventually be revealed as one of the most notorious serial killers in recent history. He would ultimately confess to murdering 49 women (noting his regret at not hitting his goal of 50), and according to the Independent, feeding the dismembered remains of his victims to his pigs was one of his favorite disposal methods. (It's also believed he may have ground up other remains, mixed it with other types of animal-based mince, and sold it.)

                      That's definitely not the only story of pigs eating people, and they're not all so murder-y, either. In 2012, a Vietnam vet named Terry Vance Garner was eaten by his pet pigs in unclear but probably accidental circumstances (via the BBC). So the whole thing is plausible, even if it didn't happen in Deadwood.

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                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        Horace
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                        Time to plant stuff. I’m thinking snap peas, basil, thyme, carrots, then who knows. I would like to explore blackberries or raspberries.

                        C1E9A791-3BEB-4306-A63A-1D4B97EBC39A.jpeg

                        Education is extremely important.

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                        • JollyJ Jolly

                          @89th said in Square foot gardening:

                          Speaking from experience, it is more efficient to place a dead body in now before you put in the soil.

                          First place the law will look.

                          Chop the body up and feed it to the hogs. Most guys won't dig around in a muddy hog pen.

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                          Mik
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                          @Jolly said in Square foot gardening:

                          @89th said in Square foot gardening:

                          Speaking from experience, it is more efficient to place a dead body in now before you put in the soil.

                          First place the law will look.

                          Chop the body up and feed it to the hogs. Most guys won't dig around in a muddy hog pen.

                          This. No body, no murder. Keeping the body on your property is a rookie mistake.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            Raspberries and balckberries will take over.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            • HoraceH Horace

                              Time to plant stuff. I’m thinking snap peas, basil, thyme, carrots, then who knows. I would like to explore blackberries or raspberries.

                              C1E9A791-3BEB-4306-A63A-1D4B97EBC39A.jpeg

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                              @Horace said in Square foot gardening:

                              I’m thinking snap peas, basil, thyme, carrots, then who knows. I would like to explore blackberries or raspberries.

                              What're you doing hanging around here? Why aren't you out selecting your mount for the bull riding contest???

                              Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                @Horace said in Square foot gardening:

                                I’m thinking snap peas, basil, thyme, carrots, then who knows. I would like to explore blackberries or raspberries.

                                What're you doing hanging around here? Why aren't you out selecting your mount for the bull riding contest???

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                                @Catseye3 said in Square foot gardening:

                                @Horace said in Square foot gardening:

                                I’m thinking snap peas, basil, thyme, carrots, then who knows. I would like to explore blackberries or raspberries.

                                What're you doing hanging around here? Why aren't you out selecting your mount for the bull riding contest???

                                We leave for the rodeo in a couple hours. I got to garden and pwn libtards this morning, as is my preference.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                  Horace rides enough bulls here.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  • HoraceH Horace

                                    Time to plant stuff. I’m thinking snap peas, basil, thyme, carrots, then who knows. I would like to explore blackberries or raspberries.

                                    C1E9A791-3BEB-4306-A63A-1D4B97EBC39A.jpeg

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                                    @Horace said in Square foot gardening:

                                    Time to plant stuff. I’m thinking snap peas, basil, thyme, carrots, then who knows. I would like to explore blackberries or raspberries.

                                    C1E9A791-3BEB-4306-A63A-1D4B97EBC39A.jpeg

                                    Think planting dates for South Louisiana:

                                    https://www.lsuagcenter.com/profiles/bneely/articles/page1481835882715

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      Think you might be late for sugar peas. Or potatoes.

                                      Tomatoes (plants), radishes, herbs, snap beans, sweet corn, cucumbers and squash could go in

                                      Okra and eggplant will be a mite later.

                                      But you're limited on space... I'm thinking two or three tomatoes, herbs, a bit of radishes, some carrots...But that's just me. Plant what you like and what will fit.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      • JollyJ Jolly

                                        Think you might be late for sugar peas. Or potatoes.

                                        Tomatoes (plants), radishes, herbs, snap beans, sweet corn, cucumbers and squash could go in

                                        Okra and eggplant will be a mite later.

                                        But you're limited on space... I'm thinking two or three tomatoes, herbs, a bit of radishes, some carrots...But that's just me. Plant what you like and what will fit.

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                                        @Jolly said in Square foot gardening:

                                        Think you might be late for sugar peas. Or potatoes.

                                        Tomatoes (plants), radishes, herbs, snap beans, sweet corn, cucumbers and squash could go in

                                        Okra and eggplant will be a mite later.

                                        But you're limited on space... I'm thinking two or three tomatoes, herbs, a bit of radishes, some carrots...But that's just me. Plant what you like and what will fit.

                                        Thanks Jolly, that helps. I have some different carrot seeds but will go with their recommendation of Danvers 126. Also i have their recommendation of watermelon. Maybe I'll go ahead and try that one. I'm just past the snap pea date range, but I'll give it a shot.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                          Watermelons spread out a lot. May not want to put that in a raised bed

                                          The 126 is a good carrot. Spring carrots aren't quite as sweet as fall carrots, since they don't over-winter, but they are still superior to grocery store carrots. Some folks eat the tops, along with the carrot, but I never have.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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