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  • MikM Offline
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    #13

    I suspect in that space you will lose the grass under the garden due to lack of sun. Consider hardscape.

    I had a fig tree in my yard in LA. You'll get more figs than you know what to do with.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • MikM Mik

      I suspect in that space you will lose the grass under the garden due to lack of sun. Consider hardscape.

      I had a fig tree in my yard in LA. You'll get more figs than you know what to do with.

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      @Mik said in Square foot gardening:

      I suspect in that space you will lose the grass under the garden due to lack of sun. Consider hardscape.

      I had a fig tree in my yard in LA. You'll get more figs than you know what to do with.

      Do you remember what breed of fig? I got an LSU Purple.

      Education is extremely important.

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        44 years ago, so no. I do remember the ants and bees loved them.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          @Mik said in Square foot gardening:

          I suspect in that space you will lose the grass under the garden due to lack of sun. Consider hardscape.

          I had a fig tree in my yard in LA. You'll get more figs than you know what to do with.

          Do you remember what breed of fig? I got an LSU Purple.

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          @Horace said in Square foot gardening:

          @Mik said in Square foot gardening:

          I suspect in that space you will lose the grass under the garden due to lack of sun. Consider hardscape.

          I had a fig tree in my yard in LA. You'll get more figs than you know what to do with.

          Do you remember what breed of fig? I got an LSU Purple.

          Geaux Ti-gahs!

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • HoraceH Horace

            @89th said in Square foot gardening:

            Any critters to be concerned of? The height should help, but there is a garden bed in my neighbor's yard I can see from my office and I often watch rabbits and squirrels enjoy the buffet. Granted theirs isn't raised, nor is it guarded by a Horace with a 12 gauge.

            Also...if needed, you can adjust the sprinkler to more of a mist I'd imagine.

            If you really cared about the environment, you would redirect that downspout to water the garden. But not everyone is pro-earth like me.

            I'm concerned about the critters and will put up fencing or netting as appropriate. I also have a fig tree that I will be guarding with my life.

            It is a fine idea to collect the rain water in a container and use it for watering. They sometimes talk about how much money you'll save by growing your own veggies, which I suspect is nonsense, but if you don't pay for the water, that would help. Our water bill last month was $200. The sprinkler program had a bug.

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            @Horace said in Square foot gardening:

            @89th said in Square foot gardening:

            Any critters to be concerned of? The height should help, but there is a garden bed in my neighbor's yard I can see from my office and I often watch rabbits and squirrels enjoy the buffet. Granted theirs isn't raised, nor is it guarded by a Horace with a 12 gauge.

            Also...if needed, you can adjust the sprinkler to more of a mist I'd imagine.

            If you really cared about the environment, you would redirect that downspout to water the garden. But not everyone is pro-earth like me.

            I'm concerned about the critters and will put up fencing or netting as appropriate. I also have a fig tree that I will be guarding with my life.

            It is a fine idea to collect the rain water in a container and use it for watering. They sometimes talk about how much money you'll save by growing your own veggies, which I suspect is nonsense, but if you don't pay for the water, that would help. Our water bill last month was $200. The sprinkler program had a bug.

            No, you probably won't save money. The veggies will taste better, though. Especially tomatoes.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              Finally assembled the bed yesterday. Now I’ll fill it with cheap stuff in the bottom half, and homemade soil in the top half. I’m going with vermiculite, compost, and peat moss in equal proportions. I will put something under the lower rim to level it off.

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              Education is extremely important.

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                #19

                Think you'll have enough sunlight?

                Bed sounds like maybe a modified hugelculture?

                https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hügelkultur

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  Think you'll have enough sunlight?

                  Bed sounds like maybe a modified hugelculture?

                  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hügelkultur

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                  @Jolly said in Square foot gardening:

                  Think you'll have enough sunlight?

                  Yes, the fence shadow doesn't touch the base of the wall. Should have full sun across the whole top of the bed.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                    Speaking from experience, it is more efficient to place a dead body in now before you put in the soil.

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                    • 89th8 89th

                      Speaking from experience, it is more efficient to place a dead body in now before you put in the soil.

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                      @89th said in Square foot gardening:

                      Speaking from experience, it is more efficient to place a dead body in now before you put in the soil.

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                      Education is extremely important.

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                      • 89th8 89th

                        Speaking from experience, it is more efficient to place a dead body in now before you put in the soil.

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                        @89th said in Square foot gardening:

                        Speaking from experience, it is more efficient to place a dead body in now before you put in the soil.

                        First place the law will look.

                        Chop the body up and feed it to the hogs. Most guys won't dig around in a muddy hog pen.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • JollyJ Jolly

                          @89th said in Square foot gardening:

                          Speaking from experience, it is more efficient to place a dead body in now before you put in the soil.

                          First place the law will look.

                          Chop the body up and feed it to the hogs. Most guys won't dig around in a muddy hog pen.

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                          @Jolly said in Square foot gardening:

                          Chop the body up and feed it to the hogs. Most guys won't dig around in a muddy hog pen.

                          LOL. Have you ever watched "Deadwood?"

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • George KG George K

                            @Jolly said in Square foot gardening:

                            Chop the body up and feed it to the hogs. Most guys won't dig around in a muddy hog pen.

                            LOL. Have you ever watched "Deadwood?"

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                            @George-K said in Square foot gardening:

                            @Jolly said in Square foot gardening:

                            Chop the body up and feed it to the hogs. Most guys won't dig around in a muddy hog pen.

                            LOL. Have you ever watched "Deadwood?"

                            Not a single episode...

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • JollyJ Jolly

                              @George-K said in Square foot gardening:

                              @Jolly said in Square foot gardening:

                              Chop the body up and feed it to the hogs. Most guys won't dig around in a muddy hog pen.

                              LOL. Have you ever watched "Deadwood?"

                              Not a single episode...

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                              @Jolly said in Square foot gardening:

                              @George-K said in Square foot gardening:

                              @Jolly said in Square foot gardening:

                              Chop the body up and feed it to the hogs. Most guys won't dig around in a muddy hog pen.

                              LOL. Have you ever watched "Deadwood?"

                              Not a single episode...

                              There's a character, "Mr. Wu," who has a pig sty near his home in Deadwood. He helps get people "disappeared."

                              https://www.grunge.com/147158/the-disturbing-true-stories-that-inspired-deadwood/

                              Deadwood's Mr. Wu was notorious for his method of disposing of inconvenient corpses: He'd simply feed them to his pigs. Was there any truth to it?

                              Ehhhh. Deadwood really did have a group of Chinese residents, but Jerry Bryant, the resident archaeologist and research curator of Deadwood's Adams Museum says (via True West) that's about where the historical accuracy ends. Bryant says there were no instances of feeding anybody to the pigs, but it wasn't entirely creative license.

                              In 2002, police raided a Vancouver farm belonging to Robert Pickton, who would eventually be revealed as one of the most notorious serial killers in recent history. He would ultimately confess to murdering 49 women (noting his regret at not hitting his goal of 50), and according to the Independent, feeding the dismembered remains of his victims to his pigs was one of his favorite disposal methods. (It's also believed he may have ground up other remains, mixed it with other types of animal-based mince, and sold it.)

                              That's definitely not the only story of pigs eating people, and they're not all so murder-y, either. In 2012, a Vietnam vet named Terry Vance Garner was eaten by his pet pigs in unclear but probably accidental circumstances (via the BBC). So the whole thing is plausible, even if it didn't happen in Deadwood.

                              Link to video

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                Horace
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                                Time to plant stuff. I’m thinking snap peas, basil, thyme, carrots, then who knows. I would like to explore blackberries or raspberries.

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                                Education is extremely important.

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                                • JollyJ Jolly

                                  @89th said in Square foot gardening:

                                  Speaking from experience, it is more efficient to place a dead body in now before you put in the soil.

                                  First place the law will look.

                                  Chop the body up and feed it to the hogs. Most guys won't dig around in a muddy hog pen.

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                                  @Jolly said in Square foot gardening:

                                  @89th said in Square foot gardening:

                                  Speaking from experience, it is more efficient to place a dead body in now before you put in the soil.

                                  First place the law will look.

                                  Chop the body up and feed it to the hogs. Most guys won't dig around in a muddy hog pen.

                                  This. No body, no murder. Keeping the body on your property is a rookie mistake.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    Raspberries and balckberries will take over.

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    • HoraceH Horace

                                      Time to plant stuff. I’m thinking snap peas, basil, thyme, carrots, then who knows. I would like to explore blackberries or raspberries.

                                      C1E9A791-3BEB-4306-A63A-1D4B97EBC39A.jpeg

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                                      @Horace said in Square foot gardening:

                                      I’m thinking snap peas, basil, thyme, carrots, then who knows. I would like to explore blackberries or raspberries.

                                      What're you doing hanging around here? Why aren't you out selecting your mount for the bull riding contest???

                                      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                        @Horace said in Square foot gardening:

                                        I’m thinking snap peas, basil, thyme, carrots, then who knows. I would like to explore blackberries or raspberries.

                                        What're you doing hanging around here? Why aren't you out selecting your mount for the bull riding contest???

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                                        @Catseye3 said in Square foot gardening:

                                        @Horace said in Square foot gardening:

                                        I’m thinking snap peas, basil, thyme, carrots, then who knows. I would like to explore blackberries or raspberries.

                                        What're you doing hanging around here? Why aren't you out selecting your mount for the bull riding contest???

                                        We leave for the rodeo in a couple hours. I got to garden and pwn libtards this morning, as is my preference.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                          Horace rides enough bulls here.

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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