My next piano??
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@George-K said in My next piano??:
@LuFins-Dad ah...thanks. Speakers still powered, but input will be from Pianoteq, right?
Yep. Though if you are running headphones, I would bypass and run straight from the computer.
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So yesterday I downloaded a trial of PianoTeq. Mrs. George's laptop got replaced this week so, rather than selling her 2012 MacBook Air, I appropriated it for myself. It's probably worth $100 or so.
So, I took the USB output of my (unplayable) Kawai, and hooked it up to the laptop, took the headphone jack and fed it into the "Line-in" jacks and voila, Hamburg Steinway!
The nice thing is that the speakers on my Kawai are perfectly adequate for what I want. Also, If I plug in my headphones into the Kawai the speakers are disabled, so there's that.
My only criticism is that the volume control on the piano is disabled, and I have to use the volume control on the computer.
But then, my Bohemia doesn't have a volume control either.
It's truly remarkable software. If you want to really, REALLY, get into the weeks of temperament, hammer hardness, etc, you can. But if you just want to enjoy different sounding instruments, it's remarkably easy to use.
The demo version stops working after 20 minutes, and some of the black keys are disabled. Nevertheless, it's a really good taste of what this can do.
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I'll maybe be in the market for a digital piano, too, in a few months. Let's say I want to spend around $5K. Which pianos should I definitely check out? Two pianos that caught my attention in the past: Yamaha NU-1X and Kawai Novus NV5. I want nice feeling keys. I don't give a damn about speakers.
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Congrats!
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@Klaus said in My next piano??:
Yamaha NU-1X and Kawai Novus NV5.
They're in the $15K range here.
Having played @kluurs Roland, it's more piano that I would ever need, especially with Pianoteq installed. It plays very nicely and it's much, much less than that.
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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@George-K said in My next piano??:
@Klaus said in My next piano??:
Yamaha NU-1X and Kawai Novus NV5.
They're in the $15K range here.
Are you sure? The NV5 is around 6000 Euro and the NU-1X around 5200 Euro.
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@George-K said in My next piano??:
@Klaus said in My next piano??:
Yamaha NU-1X and Kawai Novus NV5.
They're in the $15K range here.
Having played @kluurs Roland, it's more piano that I would ever need, especially with Pianoteq installed. It plays very nicely and it's much, much less than that.
No, the NU1X and Novus NV5 are around $7500 here. They both use the upright action, not grand.
The N1X uses the grand and that’s around $10K.
And prices are much lower in Europe. You can mostly thank California for that.
@Klaus I personally wouldn’t recommend the NU1X or NV5. You will get a better feel from the “regular” digital pianos. I would see how much the N1X costs locally and if too much, check out the Roland LX708 or the Yamaha CLP785 (or CVP805, I love the options on the CVPs). The biggest advantage for you with the either of the Clavinovas is that you would have a higher level instrument than Bosie Boy…
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@Rainman said in My next piano??:
I think it would be interesting, and maybe even with more emotional impact, to be able to change tuning systems during a piece
Saxophonists do that as a matter of routine.
Not on purpose, obviously, but still....
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I'm loving the Roland with Pianoteq software. It is a delight to always have a piano that's in tune. The action is excellent. The only better action I found was the N1X. That's a remarkable instrument, and I came close to pulling the trigger on that one. In the end, I wanted a smaller footprint in the house. In the US, Roland has a 10 year in-home warranty.
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"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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@George-K said in My next piano??:
Off to look at the Kawai CA49 and CA59 tomorrow.
I've heard that the CN301 has a spectacular action. I don't know if they have one in stock at the place I'm going to....
I thought the CA were their higher series?
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@LuFins-Dad the CA49 is a the bottom of their "Concert Artist" series. Retails for about $3K.
The CN301, similarly priced, has, according to one site, an action that rivals the Roland HO704.
https://azpianonews.blogspot.com/2019/02/kawai-ca48-review-digital-piano-low-price.html
Interestingly, I looked at the manual of my CE200, and it has...96 note polyphony. The sound was always fine for me, so there's that.
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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@George-K said in My next piano??:
@LuFins-Dad the CA49 is a the bottom of their "Concert Artist" series. Retails for about $3K.
The CN301, similarly priced, has, according to one site, an action that rivals the Roland HO704.
https://azpianonews.blogspot.com/2019/02/kawai-ca48-review-digital-piano-low-price.html
Interestingly, I looked at the manual of my CE200, and it has...96 note polyphony. The sound was always fine for me, so there's that.
Eyeroll at AZ Piano Guy.
It’s a dealer that masquerades as an independent 3rd party.
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@LuFins-Dad I know. I commented about him earlier, and you said that it didn't sound "scammy" but just some guy trying to sell pianos.
Someone said, "The piano you like the most is the piano you played last."
I'm playing the Kawais first.
That said, my CE200 served me well for a while, until I got aggressive with it in the last 2 years. It just wore out. I had no problem with the touch and feel, and, as you know, sound was irrelevant.
I want something that will last me into my (deeper) dotage.
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I may be completely wrong about the Kawai line these days, but going back in the day, the CN series were modeled to compete with the CLP -25, -35, and slightly with the -45 models. The CA series were generally meant to compete with CLP-45, CLP-75, and the CLP-85 models. I guess there could be a little crossover at the top of the CN series with the bottom of the CA…
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Played the Kawais today. Spent about 30 minutes at the CA49. Though the sound was not the greatest (even with headphones) I really liked the way it played. The keys have a bit of texture which makes playing nice. The action was a bit light, but that's "adjustable."
I also played the CN301 - similarly priced. It felt a bit better, and it sounded a bit better.
No decision made - gonna look at Rolands and Yammies next week.
This store has a "digital tech guy." The sales lady suggested I get in touch with him and see if my CE200 is worth repairing. My gut says "no." Even if fixed, it's STILL a 15 year old digital and prone to all kinds of problems.
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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Naw, I vote for get a new one, don't put money into the 15 year old. 15 years ago you were working, so obviously your old digital will be subconsciously linked to what you were like as I remember you from 15 years ago: depression, anger, exhaustion, violence, frustration, being a left winger and everything else that creates unexplainable wrong notes, and incomprehensible expression. Just life from 15 years ago. You just can't shake that out of an old digital.
Now, a NEW digital? Well-well, it will clearly reflect how wonderful a person you are now, happy, content, constantly smiling and giggling, retired on donuts. It will have no choice but to make you think you're playing beautifully!
(btw Axt, the above is totally serious, just so you know)
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@George-K said in My next piano??:
Played the Kawais today. Spent about 30 minutes at the CA49. Though the sound was not the greatest (even with headphones) I really liked the way it played. The keys have a bit of texture which makes playing nice. The action was a bit light, but that's "adjustable."
I also played the CN301 - similarly priced. It felt a bit better, and it sounded a bit better.
No decision made - gonna look at Rolands and Yammies next week.
This store has a "digital tech guy." The sales lady suggested I get in touch with him and see if my CE200 is worth repairing. My gut says "no." Even if fixed, it's STILL a 15 year old digital and prone to all kinds of problems.
15 years is not “that” old to me. At least not at the quality level these particular models are supposed to be. Frankly, I don’t expect to see the issues you are experiencing until you get to about 20 years. And even then it’s the exception. 25 years is about the time that we start seeing most issues on the Clavs and Rolands. But your Kawai is a stage piano right? Never mind… Stage pianos are going to be a little more finicky and problematic… The frame under the keyboards are thinner and lighter for the sake of portability but at the cost of longevity. Structural integrity is the number one technical concern with digitals….
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@LuFins-Dad said in My next piano??:
But your Kawai is a stage piano right?
I don't know what a "stage piano" is.
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
