My next piano??
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Whenever one posts a home photo, people usually point out obscure things one didn't realize were in the picture. For example, yes - that is C.G. Jung's "Red Book Liber Novus" on top of the turntable.
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@kluurs Looks really really nice!! Congrats!
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@kluurs and I spent a couple of hours together yesterday.
The Roland HP704 is a very, very nice digital piano. Combined with Pianoteq and a set of headphones, it goes beyond "nice," and into remarkable.
I'm in the market, as I mentioned, and this will deserve some serious, serious consideration.
However, Mrs. George has decreed that a new sofa is important right now, so I've not broached the subject of a new piano....yet.
ETA: And, for the record, that is one of THREE pianos he has in his living room.
We were going to get together, talk, and have lunch. By 2PM, both of us had forgotten about food, and we continued talking about music, recordings, teachers and pianos (of course!).
He recommended I check out the Saint-Säens piano concerto #4, and we listened some of it yesterday. If you're not familiar with it...it's worth finding.
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A question about the Roland (or Clav) and Pianoteq.
Obviously, it's possible to take the audio from the piano, play it through Pianoteq and then take that output and feed it to headphones or external speakers.
Both the Roland and the Clavinova have a jack on the bottom called "Aux In."
If one takes the output from the computer, and plugs it into the "aux in" jack, does that disable the built in sounds? IOW, if I play a harpsichord using Pianoteq, will I hear harpsichord through the Clavinova/Roland speakers, or will I still hear the piano generated by the digital?
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@George-K said in My next piano??:
- BUMP * for @kluurs
There is an internal switch to turn off the Clav/Roland sound.
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@George-K said in My next piano??:
- BUMP * for @kluurs
There is an internal switch to turn off the Clav/Roland sound.
@LuFins-Dad ah...thanks. Speakers still powered, but input will be from Pianoteq, right?
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@LuFins-Dad ah...thanks. Speakers still powered, but input will be from Pianoteq, right?
@George-K said in My next piano??:
@LuFins-Dad ah...thanks. Speakers still powered, but input will be from Pianoteq, right?
Yep. Though if you are running headphones, I would bypass and run straight from the computer.
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So yesterday I downloaded a trial of PianoTeq. Mrs. George's laptop got replaced this week so, rather than selling her 2012 MacBook Air, I appropriated it for myself. It's probably worth $100 or so.
So, I took the USB output of my (unplayable) Kawai, and hooked it up to the laptop, took the headphone jack and fed it into the "Line-in" jacks and voila, Hamburg Steinway!
The nice thing is that the speakers on my Kawai are perfectly adequate for what I want. Also, If I plug in my headphones into the Kawai the speakers are disabled, so there's that.
My only criticism is that the volume control on the piano is disabled, and I have to use the volume control on the computer.
But then, my Bohemia doesn't have a volume control either.
It's truly remarkable software. If you want to really, REALLY, get into the weeks of temperament, hammer hardness, etc, you can. But if you just want to enjoy different sounding instruments, it's remarkably easy to use.
The demo version stops working after 20 minutes, and some of the black keys are disabled. Nevertheless, it's a really good taste of what this can do.
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I'll maybe be in the market for a digital piano, too, in a few months. Let's say I want to spend around $5K. Which pianos should I definitely check out? Two pianos that caught my attention in the past: Yamaha NU-1X and Kawai Novus NV5. I want nice feeling keys. I don't give a damn about speakers.
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I'll maybe be in the market for a digital piano, too, in a few months. Let's say I want to spend around $5K. Which pianos should I definitely check out? Two pianos that caught my attention in the past: Yamaha NU-1X and Kawai Novus NV5. I want nice feeling keys. I don't give a damn about speakers.
@Klaus said in My next piano??:
Yamaha NU-1X and Kawai Novus NV5.
They're in the $15K range here.
Having played @kluurs Roland, it's more piano that I would ever need, especially with Pianoteq installed. It plays very nicely and it's much, much less than that.
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@Klaus said in My next piano??:
Yamaha NU-1X and Kawai Novus NV5.
They're in the $15K range here.
Having played @kluurs Roland, it's more piano that I would ever need, especially with Pianoteq installed. It plays very nicely and it's much, much less than that.
@George-K said in My next piano??:
@Klaus said in My next piano??:
Yamaha NU-1X and Kawai Novus NV5.
They're in the $15K range here.
Are you sure? The NV5 is around 6000 Euro and the NU-1X around 5200 Euro.
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@George-K said in My next piano??:
@Klaus said in My next piano??:
Yamaha NU-1X and Kawai Novus NV5.
They're in the $15K range here.
Are you sure? The NV5 is around 6000 Euro and the NU-1X around 5200 Euro.
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@Klaus said in My next piano??:
Yamaha NU-1X and Kawai Novus NV5.
They're in the $15K range here.
Having played @kluurs Roland, it's more piano that I would ever need, especially with Pianoteq installed. It plays very nicely and it's much, much less than that.
@George-K said in My next piano??:
@Klaus said in My next piano??:
Yamaha NU-1X and Kawai Novus NV5.
They're in the $15K range here.
Having played @kluurs Roland, it's more piano that I would ever need, especially with Pianoteq installed. It plays very nicely and it's much, much less than that.
No, the NU1X and Novus NV5 are around $7500 here. They both use the upright action, not grand.
The N1X uses the grand and that’s around $10K.
And prices are much lower in Europe. You can mostly thank California for that.
@Klaus I personally wouldn’t recommend the NU1X or NV5. You will get a better feel from the “regular” digital pianos. I would see how much the N1X costs locally and if too much, check out the Roland LX708 or the Yamaha CLP785 (or CVP805, I love the options on the CVPs). The biggest advantage for you with the either of the Clavinovas is that you would have a higher level instrument than Bosie Boy…
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I think it would be interesting, and maybe even with more emotional impact, to be able to change tuning systems during a piece, like a stop on an organ, where the audience is not aware a change has taken place. The audience would react to the music passage being even more beautiful e.g., sad, tragic, ecstatic, triumphal, etc., than the usual affect of the music. A tear in the eye could become an entire audience bawling their eyes out, thinking it's all the performer's interpretation. Hay Ax, you interested?
@Rainman said in My next piano??:
I think it would be interesting, and maybe even with more emotional impact, to be able to change tuning systems during a piece
Saxophonists do that as a matter of routine.
Not on purpose, obviously, but still....
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I'm loving the Roland with Pianoteq software. It is a delight to always have a piano that's in tune. The action is excellent. The only better action I found was the N1X. That's a remarkable instrument, and I came close to pulling the trigger on that one. In the end, I wanted a smaller footprint in the house. In the US, Roland has a 10 year in-home warranty.
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Off to look at the Kawai CA49 and CA59 tomorrow.
I've heard that the CN301 has a spectacular action. I don't know if they have one in stock at the place I'm going to....
