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My next piano??

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    kluurs
    wrote on 24 Nov 2022, 00:05 last edited by kluurs
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    I haven't looked at Roland in quite a while. I guess I should. I know a couple of friends who ended up with the CLP745 so I kinda want to try that. Stephen Hough talked about using an N2 or N1H - I can't recall which.

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      24 Nov 2022, 00:05

      I haven't looked at Roland in quite a while. I guess I should. I know a couple of friends who ended up with the CLP745 so I kinda want to try that. Stephen Hough talked about using an N2 or N1H - I can't recall which.

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      LuFins Dad
      wrote on 24 Nov 2022, 00:07 last edited by
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      @kluurs I just sold a used N2… That is still my favorite of the Avants. I hope they bring it back as an N2X.

      The Brad

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        kluurs
        wrote on 24 Nov 2022, 00:08 last edited by kluurs
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        There was a woman in the area selling a one year old barely used N1H for $7,500 about 6 months ago. I'm kicking myself for not going to look at it. It was on the market for a bit - so she may have ended up selling it for less.

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          24 Nov 2022, 00:07

          @kluurs I just sold a used N2… That is still my favorite of the Avants. I hope they bring it back as an N2X.

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          kluurs
          wrote on 24 Nov 2022, 00:09 last edited by
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          @LuFins-Dad said in My next piano??:

          @kluurs I just sold a used N2… That is still my favorite of the Avants. I hope they bring it back as an N2X.

          I agree - but every time I bring the N2 up, I'm told that it will eventually be phased out.

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            24 Nov 2022, 00:08

            There was a woman in the area selling a one year old barely used N1H for $7,500 about 6 months ago. I'm kicking myself for not going to look at it. It was on the market for a bit - so she may have ended up selling it for less.

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            George K
            wrote on 24 Nov 2022, 00:09 last edited by
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            @kluurs where are you shopping/looking?

            I might be in the market after the holidays for something basic, and reliable...

            ...if I can convince Mrs. George, that is.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              LuFins Dad
              wrote on 24 Nov 2022, 00:11 last edited by
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              Also, try the HP704 or the LX708. The LX705 and LX706 are good, but I prefer the speaker layout of the HP704. Plus, be prepared to edit the sound… Put the touch on 85, the brilliance on +3, and have them put it on Soundboard 2 to start. Then edit as needed. The settings will save once you turn it off.

              The Brad

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                taiwan_girl
                wrote on 24 Nov 2022, 01:49 last edited by
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                I have a Roland HP505. Never have any problems with it. It is good for me, but I am a very very average player.

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                  George K
                  wrote on 24 Nov 2022, 01:53 last edited by
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                  I dunno, this outfit seems just a bit on the shady side.

                  Thoughts?

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • G George K
                    24 Nov 2022, 01:53

                    I dunno, this outfit seems just a bit on the shady side.

                    Thoughts?

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                    LuFins Dad
                    wrote on 24 Nov 2022, 04:11 last edited by
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                    @George-K said in My next piano??:

                    I dunno, this outfit seems just a bit on the shady side.

                    Thoughts?

                    I don’t really think shady, just riding the line of trying to appear to be an independent 3rd party while actually selling pianos…

                    The Brad

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                    • G George K
                      24 Nov 2022, 00:09

                      @kluurs where are you shopping/looking?

                      I might be in the market after the holidays for something basic, and reliable...

                      ...if I can convince Mrs. George, that is.

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                      kluurs
                      wrote on 24 Nov 2022, 07:09 last edited by kluurs
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                      @George-K said in My next piano??:

                      @kluurs where are you shopping/looking?

                      First stop is Pianoforte Chicago. I used to have a friend who worked there so I may have an in. They have an N1X in stock. None of the other folks currently have one available. I believe the Roland dealer is in Geneva. That's a bit of a hike, but they're a good dealer. The Casio GP510 is in Aurora. I hope to do some serious looking next week.

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                        George K
                        wrote on 29 Nov 2022, 01:24 last edited by
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                        Hay, @jon-nyc ! Which Clav do you have?

                        Are you happy with it?

                        What influenced your choice of this particular model?

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on 29 Nov 2022, 01:35 last edited by
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                          I have the CLP-645. I think there was a higher end model at the time but I preferred the 645 when I tried it.

                          Space didn’t allow the avant- grand and I didn’t want the one with the real upright action. I thought a simulated grand action would be better for me than a real upright action.

                          Oh, and mine has a Yamaha sampled voice and a Bosendorfer sampled voice.

                          I love it and still play it every day. Rich G gave me a deal on it too.

                          You were warned.

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                            George K
                            wrote on 29 Nov 2022, 01:53 last edited by
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                            Thanks.

                            It looks like the 645 is no longer in the lineup, having been replaced by the 745.

                            As I've mentioned, my Kawai has become unplayable and I'm looking for a moderately priced replacement.

                            Being retired, budget is a consideration, of course.

                            Looking at the Yamaha CLP 725, 735 series. Also considering the YDP series, but at the higher end. Roland is another consideration.

                            I suppose I should give the Kawais another look. I've read that the Korg GA1 Air is really good in terms of action as well, as is the Casio.

                            I wish there were a way to easily compare.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              Rainman
                              wrote on 29 Nov 2022, 03:33 last edited by
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                              Years (decades?) ago, Kawai digital keyboards had a button where you could choose the tuning system. It was fun to play selections from Bach's WTC in "better" tuning systems than equal temperament, just to hear the difference.
                              Do Kawai keyboards still have this feature, or does anyone know if different manufacturers have it?

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                                29 Nov 2022, 03:33

                                Years (decades?) ago, Kawai digital keyboards had a button where you could choose the tuning system. It was fun to play selections from Bach's WTC in "better" tuning systems than equal temperament, just to hear the difference.
                                Do Kawai keyboards still have this feature, or does anyone know if different manufacturers have it?

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                                LuFins Dad
                                wrote on 29 Nov 2022, 19:06 last edited by
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                                @Rainman said in My next piano??:

                                Years (decades?) ago, Kawai digital keyboards had a button where you could choose the tuning system. It was fun to play selections from Bach's WTC in "better" tuning systems than equal temperament, just to hear the difference.
                                Do Kawai keyboards still have this feature, or does anyone know if different manufacturers have it?

                                They all have different temperaments.

                                The Brad

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                                  29 Nov 2022, 19:06

                                  @Rainman said in My next piano??:

                                  Years (decades?) ago, Kawai digital keyboards had a button where you could choose the tuning system. It was fun to play selections from Bach's WTC in "better" tuning systems than equal temperament, just to hear the difference.
                                  Do Kawai keyboards still have this feature, or does anyone know if different manufacturers have it?

                                  They all have different temperaments.

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                                  Rainman
                                  wrote on 29 Nov 2022, 19:22 last edited by
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                                  @LuFins-Dad said in My next piano??:

                                  @Rainman said in My next piano??:

                                  Years (decades?) ago, Kawai digital keyboards had a button where you could choose the tuning system. It was fun to play selections from Bach's WTC in "better" tuning systems than equal temperament, just to hear the difference.
                                  Do Kawai keyboards still have this feature, or does anyone know if different manufacturers have it?

                                  They all have different temperaments.

                                  So they all have the ability to switch to, say, meantone temperament, or the earlier just intonation?

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on 29 Nov 2022, 19:32 last edited by
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                                    I love it when you guys talk dirty.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      29 Nov 2022, 19:22

                                      @LuFins-Dad said in My next piano??:

                                      @Rainman said in My next piano??:

                                      Years (decades?) ago, Kawai digital keyboards had a button where you could choose the tuning system. It was fun to play selections from Bach's WTC in "better" tuning systems than equal temperament, just to hear the difference.
                                      Do Kawai keyboards still have this feature, or does anyone know if different manufacturers have it?

                                      They all have different temperaments.

                                      So they all have the ability to switch to, say, meantone temperament, or the earlier just intonation?

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                                      LuFins Dad
                                      wrote on 29 Nov 2022, 19:53 last edited by
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                                      @Rainman said in My next piano??:

                                      @LuFins-Dad said in My next piano??:

                                      @Rainman said in My next piano??:

                                      Years (decades?) ago, Kawai digital keyboards had a button where you could choose the tuning system. It was fun to play selections from Bach's WTC in "better" tuning systems than equal temperament, just to hear the difference.
                                      Do Kawai keyboards still have this feature, or does anyone know if different manufacturers have it?

                                      They all have different temperaments.

                                      So they all have the ability to switch to, say, meantone temperament, or the earlier just intonation?

                                      Meantone, Pythagorean, Pure Major/Pure Minor, Werckmeister, Kimberger…

                                      The Brad

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                                        Rainman
                                        wrote on 29 Nov 2022, 22:50 last edited by
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                                        I think it would be interesting, and maybe even with more emotional impact, to be able to change tuning systems during a piece, like a stop on an organ, where the audience is not aware a change has taken place. The audience would react to the music passage being even more beautiful e.g., sad, tragic, ecstatic, triumphal, etc., than the usual affect of the music. A tear in the eye could become an entire audience bawling their eyes out, thinking it's all the performer's interpretation. Hay Ax, you interested?

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                                        • R Rainman
                                          29 Nov 2022, 22:50

                                          I think it would be interesting, and maybe even with more emotional impact, to be able to change tuning systems during a piece, like a stop on an organ, where the audience is not aware a change has taken place. The audience would react to the music passage being even more beautiful e.g., sad, tragic, ecstatic, triumphal, etc., than the usual affect of the music. A tear in the eye could become an entire audience bawling their eyes out, thinking it's all the performer's interpretation. Hay Ax, you interested?

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                                          LuFins Dad
                                          wrote on 29 Nov 2022, 22:53 last edited by
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                                          @Rainman said in My next piano??:

                                          I think it would be interesting, and maybe even with more emotional impact, to be able to change tuning systems during a piece, like a stop on an organ, where the audience is not aware a change has taken place. The audience would react to the music passage being even more beautiful e.g., sad, tragic, ecstatic, triumphal, etc., than the usual affect of the music. A tear in the eye could become an entire audience bawling their eyes out, thinking it's all the performer's interpretation. Hay Ax, you interested?

                                          You can do that pretty easily…

                                          The Brad

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