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    Horace
    wrote on 21 Nov 2022, 15:11 last edited by
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    One cannot expect lefties to feel feels about the shenanigans associated with their own side. At best they will clinically report that those actions were wrong and should be prosecuted within the law. But if you want spittle, you must ask them about January 6.

    Education is extremely important.

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      taiwan_girl
      wrote on 21 Nov 2022, 15:22 last edited by
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      @jon-nyc @Jolly

      What are you guys saying?

      The Jan 6 protesters were treated too harsh and the other protesters were treated just right?

      or

      The Jan 6 protesters were treated just right and the other protesters were treated too lenient?

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        jon-nyc
        wrote on 21 Nov 2022, 15:23 last edited by
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        Way too lenient on both groups.

        Only non-witches get due process.

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          jon-nyc
          wrote on 21 Nov 2022, 15:28 last edited by jon-nyc
          #10

          Jolly - I understand your need to deflect rather than face the reality of what your people did.

          But the whattaboutism falls flat on me since I never thought of myself as being ‘on the side’ of the BLM protesters (which would have been apparent in my posts about it here when it was unfolding in 2020)

          Only non-witches get due process.

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          • J jon-nyc
            21 Nov 2022, 14:48

            Have you seen this? The video is a little disturbing at the end when the officer is getting crushed.

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            Doctor Phibes
            wrote on 21 Nov 2022, 15:46 last edited by Doctor Phibes
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            @jon-nyc said in Funny, I haven't seen this before...:

            American tourists are even worse than British ones.

            Well, sober British ones at least.

            Seems to me like a lot of the folks on both sides should be going to jail.

            I was only joking

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            • J jon-nyc
              21 Nov 2022, 15:28

              Jolly - I understand your need to deflect rather than face the reality of what your people did.

              But the whattaboutism falls flat on me since I never thought of myself as being ‘on the side’ of the BLM protesters (which would have been apparent in my posts about it here when it was unfolding in 2020)

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              Jolly
              wrote on 21 Nov 2022, 17:18 last edited by
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              @jon-nyc said in Funny, I haven't seen this before...:

              Jolly - I understand your need to deflect rather than face the reality of what your people did.

              But the whattaboutism falls flat on me since I never thought of myself as being ‘on the side’ of the BLM protesters (which would have been apparent in my posts about it here when it was unfolding in 2020)

              It's not deflection, it's simple Justice. You match the punishment to the crime. Some of this stuff is positively Robispierrean in its arguments.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                taiwan_girl
                wrote on 22 Nov 2022, 02:39 last edited by
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                I think there are cases where the same "crime" will receive different punishments.

                Person A breaks into a local 7-11, goes into the back office and takes personal items from the office desk.

                Person B breaks into the White House, goes into the oval office and takes personal items from the office desk

                100% guarantee that Person B will get a harder sentence.

                I kagree with Jon. I dont think that the people who broke into the Capital got too hard a sentence, I think that the people who did the damage to the federal buildings got too light a sentence.

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                  Jolly
                  wrote on 22 Nov 2022, 06:09 last edited by
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                  We're not talking Person A vs. Person B.

                  We're talking multiple people.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • H Horace
                    21 Nov 2022, 15:11

                    One cannot expect lefties to feel feels about the shenanigans associated with their own side. At best they will clinically report that those actions were wrong and should be prosecuted within the law. But if you want spittle, you must ask them about January 6.

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on 22 Nov 2022, 13:50 last edited by
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                    @Horace said in Funny, I haven't seen this before...:

                    One cannot expect lefties to feel feels about the shenanigans associated with their own side. At best they will clinically report that those actions were wrong and should be prosecuted within the law. But if you want spittle, you must ask them about January 6.

                    Some of them claim the BLM rioters were just tourists taking selfies.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    • J jon-nyc
                      22 Nov 2022, 13:50

                      @Horace said in Funny, I haven't seen this before...:

                      One cannot expect lefties to feel feels about the shenanigans associated with their own side. At best they will clinically report that those actions were wrong and should be prosecuted within the law. But if you want spittle, you must ask them about January 6.

                      Some of them claim the BLM rioters were just tourists taking selfies.

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                      Horace
                      wrote on 22 Nov 2022, 14:01 last edited by
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                      @jon-nyc said in Funny, I haven't seen this before...:

                      @Horace said in Funny, I haven't seen this before...:

                      One cannot expect lefties to feel feels about the shenanigans associated with their own side. At best they will clinically report that those actions were wrong and should be prosecuted within the law. But if you want spittle, you must ask them about January 6.

                      Some of them claim the BLM rioters were just tourists taking selfies.

                      One of these days you’ll crack the code and convince everybody that both sides are the same, except when the Republicans are worse.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                      • J Jolly
                        22 Nov 2022, 06:09

                        We're not talking Person A vs. Person B.

                        We're talking multiple people.

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                        taiwan_girl
                        wrote on 22 Nov 2022, 15:28 last edited by
                        #17

                        @Jolly said in Funny, I haven't seen this before...:

                        We're not talking Person A vs. Person B.

                        We're talking multiple people.

                        Same thing. I can rewrite as:

                        Group A breaks into a local 7-11, goes into the back office and takes personal items from the office desk.

                        Group B breaks into the White House, goes into the oval office and takes personal items from the office desk

                        100% guarantee that Group B will get a harder sentence.

                        But again, I agree with Jon. I dont think that the people who broke into the Capital got too hard a sentence, I think that the people who did the damage to the federal buildings got too light a sentence.

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                        • T taiwan_girl
                          22 Nov 2022, 15:28

                          @Jolly said in Funny, I haven't seen this before...:

                          We're not talking Person A vs. Person B.

                          We're talking multiple people.

                          Same thing. I can rewrite as:

                          Group A breaks into a local 7-11, goes into the back office and takes personal items from the office desk.

                          Group B breaks into the White House, goes into the oval office and takes personal items from the office desk

                          100% guarantee that Group B will get a harder sentence.

                          But again, I agree with Jon. I dont think that the people who broke into the Capital got too hard a sentence, I think that the people who did the damage to the federal buildings got too light a sentence.

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                          Horace
                          wrote on 22 Nov 2022, 15:58 last edited by
                          #18

                          @taiwan_girl said in Funny, I haven't seen this before...:

                          @Jolly said in Funny, I haven't seen this before...:

                          We're not talking Person A vs. Person B.

                          We're talking multiple people.

                          Same thing. I can rewrite as:

                          Group A breaks into a local 7-11, goes into the back office and takes personal items from the office desk.

                          Group B breaks into the White House, goes into the oval office and takes personal items from the office desk

                          100% guarantee that Group B will get a harder sentence.

                          But again, I agree with Jon. I dont think that the people who broke into the Capital got too hard a sentence, I think that the people who did the damage to the federal buildings got too light a sentence.

                          A distinction without a difference. In both cases what Jolly and other sane people are complaining about, is the politically motivated unequal 'justice'.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                          • H Horace
                            22 Nov 2022, 15:58

                            @taiwan_girl said in Funny, I haven't seen this before...:

                            @Jolly said in Funny, I haven't seen this before...:

                            We're not talking Person A vs. Person B.

                            We're talking multiple people.

                            Same thing. I can rewrite as:

                            Group A breaks into a local 7-11, goes into the back office and takes personal items from the office desk.

                            Group B breaks into the White House, goes into the oval office and takes personal items from the office desk

                            100% guarantee that Group B will get a harder sentence.

                            But again, I agree with Jon. I dont think that the people who broke into the Capital got too hard a sentence, I think that the people who did the damage to the federal buildings got too light a sentence.

                            A distinction without a difference. In both cases what Jolly and other sane people are complaining about, is the politically motivated unequal 'justice'.

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                            taiwan_girl
                            wrote on 22 Nov 2022, 16:34 last edited by
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                            @Horace I dont disagree with you and Jolly. The other pretestors should have gotten a harder sentence, for sure.

                            But, I am not sure that I agree that all those judges in the other cases were politically motivated to give a lighter sentence.

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                            • T taiwan_girl
                              22 Nov 2022, 16:34

                              @Horace I dont disagree with you and Jolly. The other pretestors should have gotten a harder sentence, for sure.

                              But, I am not sure that I agree that all those judges in the other cases were politically motivated to give a lighter sentence.

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                              Horace
                              wrote on 22 Nov 2022, 17:19 last edited by
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                              @taiwan_girl said in Funny, I haven't seen this before...:

                              @Horace I dont disagree with you and Jolly. The other pretestors should have gotten a harder sentence, for sure.

                              But, I am not sure that I agree that all those judges in the other cases were politically motivated to give a lighter sentence.

                              Again a distinction without a difference. An unequal presence or absence of bias is a problem regardless of whether one labels either side as an absence or a presence.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                              • T taiwan_girl
                                22 Nov 2022, 15:28

                                @Jolly said in Funny, I haven't seen this before...:

                                We're not talking Person A vs. Person B.

                                We're talking multiple people.

                                Same thing. I can rewrite as:

                                Group A breaks into a local 7-11, goes into the back office and takes personal items from the office desk.

                                Group B breaks into the White House, goes into the oval office and takes personal items from the office desk

                                100% guarantee that Group B will get a harder sentence.

                                But again, I agree with Jon. I dont think that the people who broke into the Capital got too hard a sentence, I think that the people who did the damage to the federal buildings got too light a sentence.

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                                Jolly
                                wrote on 22 Nov 2022, 19:34 last edited by
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                                @taiwan_girl said in Funny, I haven't seen this before...:

                                @Jolly said in Funny, I haven't seen this before...:

                                We're not talking Person A vs. Person B.

                                We're talking multiple people.

                                Same thing. I can rewrite as:

                                Group A breaks into a local 7-11, goes into the back office and takes personal items from the office desk.

                                Group B breaks into the White House, goes into the oval office and takes personal items from the office desk

                                100% guarantee that Group B will get a harder sentence.

                                But again, I agree with Jon. I dont think that the people who broke into the Capital got too hard a sentence, I think that the people who did the damage to the federal buildings got too light a sentence.

                                Rewrite this sugar...

                                1. 700 police injured.
                                2. At least 11 people killed.
                                3. $1.2B damage

                                Vs.

                                1. 140 police injured (I think that's inflated, but let's go with it).
                                2. 1 person killed (unarmed, on the other side of a wall)
                                3. $1.5M damage

                                Yes, I can certainly see how those figures are equal..

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • J Jolly
                                  22 Nov 2022, 19:34

                                  @taiwan_girl said in Funny, I haven't seen this before...:

                                  @Jolly said in Funny, I haven't seen this before...:

                                  We're not talking Person A vs. Person B.

                                  We're talking multiple people.

                                  Same thing. I can rewrite as:

                                  Group A breaks into a local 7-11, goes into the back office and takes personal items from the office desk.

                                  Group B breaks into the White House, goes into the oval office and takes personal items from the office desk

                                  100% guarantee that Group B will get a harder sentence.

                                  But again, I agree with Jon. I dont think that the people who broke into the Capital got too hard a sentence, I think that the people who did the damage to the federal buildings got too light a sentence.

                                  Rewrite this sugar...

                                  1. 700 police injured.
                                  2. At least 11 people killed.
                                  3. $1.2B damage

                                  Vs.

                                  1. 140 police injured (I think that's inflated, but let's go with it).
                                  2. 1 person killed (unarmed, on the other side of a wall)
                                  3. $1.5M damage

                                  Yes, I can certainly see how those figures are equal..

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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote on 22 Nov 2022, 20:48 last edited by jon-nyc
                                  #22

                                  @Jolly said in Funny, I haven't seen this before...:

                                  @taiwan_girl said in Funny, I haven't seen this before...:

                                  1. 700 police injured.
                                  2. At least 11 people killed.
                                  3. $1.2B damage

                                  Vs.

                                  1. 140 police injured (I think that's inflated, but let's go with it).
                                  2. 1 person killed (unarmed, violently breaking through a door towards where the congressmen were)
                                  3. $1.5M damage

                                  Yes, I can certainly see how those figures are equal..

                                  NNTTM.

                                  But keep in mind the macro picture doesn't really matter for any one individual's criminal proceeding, it's about what they themselves did.

                                  And the fact that they did this at the Capitol threatening elected officials actually does matter to individual criminal proceedings.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                                    Copper
                                    wrote on 22 Nov 2022, 21:06 last edited by
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                                    Don't forget the selfies

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                                      Doctor Phibes
                                      wrote on 22 Nov 2022, 21:12 last edited by
                                      #24

                                      It's a shame you chaps don't play more soccer. That tends to be a good place where yobs can congregate and fight one another. Political thuggery is so gauche.

                                      I was only joking

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                                      • J jon-nyc
                                        22 Nov 2022, 20:48

                                        @Jolly said in Funny, I haven't seen this before...:

                                        @taiwan_girl said in Funny, I haven't seen this before...:

                                        1. 700 police injured.
                                        2. At least 11 people killed.
                                        3. $1.2B damage

                                        Vs.

                                        1. 140 police injured (I think that's inflated, but let's go with it).
                                        2. 1 person killed (unarmed, violently breaking through a door towards where the congressmen were)
                                        3. $1.5M damage

                                        Yes, I can certainly see how those figures are equal..

                                        NNTTM.

                                        But keep in mind the macro picture doesn't really matter for any one individual's criminal proceeding, it's about what they themselves did.

                                        And the fact that they did this at the Capitol threatening elected officials actually does matter to individual criminal proceedings.

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                                        Horace
                                        wrote on 22 Nov 2022, 21:57 last edited by
                                        #25

                                        @jon-nyc said in Funny, I haven't seen this before...:

                                        But keep in mind the macro picture doesn't really matter for any one individual's criminal proceeding, it's about what they themselves did.

                                        That depends on which bias is being claimed.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                        • J jon-nyc
                                          22 Nov 2022, 20:48

                                          @Jolly said in Funny, I haven't seen this before...:

                                          @taiwan_girl said in Funny, I haven't seen this before...:

                                          1. 700 police injured.
                                          2. At least 11 people killed.
                                          3. $1.2B damage

                                          Vs.

                                          1. 140 police injured (I think that's inflated, but let's go with it).
                                          2. 1 person killed (unarmed, violently breaking through a door towards where the congressmen were)
                                          3. $1.5M damage

                                          Yes, I can certainly see how those figures are equal..

                                          NNTTM.

                                          But keep in mind the macro picture doesn't really matter for any one individual's criminal proceeding, it's about what they themselves did.

                                          And the fact that they did this at the Capitol threatening elected officials actually does matter to individual criminal proceedings.

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                                          Jolly
                                          wrote on 22 Nov 2022, 23:28 last edited by
                                          #26

                                          @jon-nyc said in Funny, I haven't seen this before...:

                                          @Jolly said in Funny, I haven't seen this before...:

                                          @taiwan_girl said in Funny, I haven't seen this before...:

                                          1. 700 police injured.
                                          2. At least 11 people killed.
                                          3. $1.2B damage

                                          Vs.

                                          1. 140 police injured (I think that's inflated, but let's go with it).
                                          2. 1 person killed (unarmed, violently breaking through a door towards where the congressmen were)
                                          3. $1.5M damage

                                          Yes, I can certainly see how those figures are equal..

                                          NNTTM.

                                          But keep in mind the macro picture doesn't really matter for any one individual's criminal proceeding, it's about what they themselves did.

                                          And the fact that they did this at the Capitol threatening elected officials actually does matter to individual criminal proceedings.

                                          English Common Law vs. Napoleonic Code. If we were under NC, that argument would work. English Common Law, not so much.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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