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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
    wrote on last edited by
    #6

    Hey, let's go back to Trump's inauguration...

    Link to video

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • HoraceH Online
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      Horace
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      #7

      One cannot expect lefties to feel feels about the shenanigans associated with their own side. At best they will clinically report that those actions were wrong and should be prosecuted within the law. But if you want spittle, you must ask them about January 6.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • taiwan_girlT Online
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        taiwan_girl
        wrote on last edited by
        #8

        @jon-nyc @Jolly

        What are you guys saying?

        The Jan 6 protesters were treated too harsh and the other protesters were treated just right?

        or

        The Jan 6 protesters were treated just right and the other protesters were treated too lenient?

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        • jon-nycJ Offline
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          jon-nyc
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          #9

          Way too lenient on both groups.

          You were warned.

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            jon-nyc
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            #10

            Jolly - I understand your need to deflect rather than face the reality of what your people did.

            But the whattaboutism falls flat on me since I never thought of myself as being ‘on the side’ of the BLM protesters (which would have been apparent in my posts about it here when it was unfolding in 2020)

            You were warned.

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            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

              Have you seen this? The video is a little disturbing at the end when the officer is getting crushed.

              Doctor PhibesD Offline
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              Doctor Phibes
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              #11

              @jon-nyc said in Funny, I haven't seen this before...:

              American tourists are even worse than British ones.

              Well, sober British ones at least.

              Seems to me like a lot of the folks on both sides should be going to jail.

              I was only joking

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                Jolly - I understand your need to deflect rather than face the reality of what your people did.

                But the whattaboutism falls flat on me since I never thought of myself as being ‘on the side’ of the BLM protesters (which would have been apparent in my posts about it here when it was unfolding in 2020)

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                Jolly
                wrote on last edited by
                #12

                @jon-nyc said in Funny, I haven't seen this before...:

                Jolly - I understand your need to deflect rather than face the reality of what your people did.

                But the whattaboutism falls flat on me since I never thought of myself as being ‘on the side’ of the BLM protesters (which would have been apparent in my posts about it here when it was unfolding in 2020)

                It's not deflection, it's simple Justice. You match the punishment to the crime. Some of this stuff is positively Robispierrean in its arguments.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • taiwan_girlT Online
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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #13

                  I think there are cases where the same "crime" will receive different punishments.

                  Person A breaks into a local 7-11, goes into the back office and takes personal items from the office desk.

                  Person B breaks into the White House, goes into the oval office and takes personal items from the office desk

                  100% guarantee that Person B will get a harder sentence.

                  I kagree with Jon. I dont think that the people who broke into the Capital got too hard a sentence, I think that the people who did the damage to the federal buildings got too light a sentence.

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                  • JollyJ Offline
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                    Jolly
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #14

                    We're not talking Person A vs. Person B.

                    We're talking multiple people.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • HoraceH Horace

                      One cannot expect lefties to feel feels about the shenanigans associated with their own side. At best they will clinically report that those actions were wrong and should be prosecuted within the law. But if you want spittle, you must ask them about January 6.

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                      jon-nyc
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                      #15

                      @Horace said in Funny, I haven't seen this before...:

                      One cannot expect lefties to feel feels about the shenanigans associated with their own side. At best they will clinically report that those actions were wrong and should be prosecuted within the law. But if you want spittle, you must ask them about January 6.

                      Some of them claim the BLM rioters were just tourists taking selfies.

                      You were warned.

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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        @Horace said in Funny, I haven't seen this before...:

                        One cannot expect lefties to feel feels about the shenanigans associated with their own side. At best they will clinically report that those actions were wrong and should be prosecuted within the law. But if you want spittle, you must ask them about January 6.

                        Some of them claim the BLM rioters were just tourists taking selfies.

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                        Horace
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #16

                        @jon-nyc said in Funny, I haven't seen this before...:

                        @Horace said in Funny, I haven't seen this before...:

                        One cannot expect lefties to feel feels about the shenanigans associated with their own side. At best they will clinically report that those actions were wrong and should be prosecuted within the law. But if you want spittle, you must ask them about January 6.

                        Some of them claim the BLM rioters were just tourists taking selfies.

                        One of these days you’ll crack the code and convince everybody that both sides are the same, except when the Republicans are worse.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                        • JollyJ Jolly

                          We're not talking Person A vs. Person B.

                          We're talking multiple people.

                          taiwan_girlT Online
                          taiwan_girlT Online
                          taiwan_girl
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #17

                          @Jolly said in Funny, I haven't seen this before...:

                          We're not talking Person A vs. Person B.

                          We're talking multiple people.

                          Same thing. I can rewrite as:

                          Group A breaks into a local 7-11, goes into the back office and takes personal items from the office desk.

                          Group B breaks into the White House, goes into the oval office and takes personal items from the office desk

                          100% guarantee that Group B will get a harder sentence.

                          But again, I agree with Jon. I dont think that the people who broke into the Capital got too hard a sentence, I think that the people who did the damage to the federal buildings got too light a sentence.

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                          • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                            @Jolly said in Funny, I haven't seen this before...:

                            We're not talking Person A vs. Person B.

                            We're talking multiple people.

                            Same thing. I can rewrite as:

                            Group A breaks into a local 7-11, goes into the back office and takes personal items from the office desk.

                            Group B breaks into the White House, goes into the oval office and takes personal items from the office desk

                            100% guarantee that Group B will get a harder sentence.

                            But again, I agree with Jon. I dont think that the people who broke into the Capital got too hard a sentence, I think that the people who did the damage to the federal buildings got too light a sentence.

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                            Horace
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #18

                            @taiwan_girl said in Funny, I haven't seen this before...:

                            @Jolly said in Funny, I haven't seen this before...:

                            We're not talking Person A vs. Person B.

                            We're talking multiple people.

                            Same thing. I can rewrite as:

                            Group A breaks into a local 7-11, goes into the back office and takes personal items from the office desk.

                            Group B breaks into the White House, goes into the oval office and takes personal items from the office desk

                            100% guarantee that Group B will get a harder sentence.

                            But again, I agree with Jon. I dont think that the people who broke into the Capital got too hard a sentence, I think that the people who did the damage to the federal buildings got too light a sentence.

                            A distinction without a difference. In both cases what Jolly and other sane people are complaining about, is the politically motivated unequal 'justice'.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                            • HoraceH Horace

                              @taiwan_girl said in Funny, I haven't seen this before...:

                              @Jolly said in Funny, I haven't seen this before...:

                              We're not talking Person A vs. Person B.

                              We're talking multiple people.

                              Same thing. I can rewrite as:

                              Group A breaks into a local 7-11, goes into the back office and takes personal items from the office desk.

                              Group B breaks into the White House, goes into the oval office and takes personal items from the office desk

                              100% guarantee that Group B will get a harder sentence.

                              But again, I agree with Jon. I dont think that the people who broke into the Capital got too hard a sentence, I think that the people who did the damage to the federal buildings got too light a sentence.

                              A distinction without a difference. In both cases what Jolly and other sane people are complaining about, is the politically motivated unequal 'justice'.

                              taiwan_girlT Online
                              taiwan_girlT Online
                              taiwan_girl
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #19

                              @Horace I dont disagree with you and Jolly. The other pretestors should have gotten a harder sentence, for sure.

                              But, I am not sure that I agree that all those judges in the other cases were politically motivated to give a lighter sentence.

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                              • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                @Horace I dont disagree with you and Jolly. The other pretestors should have gotten a harder sentence, for sure.

                                But, I am not sure that I agree that all those judges in the other cases were politically motivated to give a lighter sentence.

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                                Horace
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #20

                                @taiwan_girl said in Funny, I haven't seen this before...:

                                @Horace I dont disagree with you and Jolly. The other pretestors should have gotten a harder sentence, for sure.

                                But, I am not sure that I agree that all those judges in the other cases were politically motivated to give a lighter sentence.

                                Again a distinction without a difference. An unequal presence or absence of bias is a problem regardless of whether one labels either side as an absence or a presence.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                  @Jolly said in Funny, I haven't seen this before...:

                                  We're not talking Person A vs. Person B.

                                  We're talking multiple people.

                                  Same thing. I can rewrite as:

                                  Group A breaks into a local 7-11, goes into the back office and takes personal items from the office desk.

                                  Group B breaks into the White House, goes into the oval office and takes personal items from the office desk

                                  100% guarantee that Group B will get a harder sentence.

                                  But again, I agree with Jon. I dont think that the people who broke into the Capital got too hard a sentence, I think that the people who did the damage to the federal buildings got too light a sentence.

                                  JollyJ Offline
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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #21

                                  @taiwan_girl said in Funny, I haven't seen this before...:

                                  @Jolly said in Funny, I haven't seen this before...:

                                  We're not talking Person A vs. Person B.

                                  We're talking multiple people.

                                  Same thing. I can rewrite as:

                                  Group A breaks into a local 7-11, goes into the back office and takes personal items from the office desk.

                                  Group B breaks into the White House, goes into the oval office and takes personal items from the office desk

                                  100% guarantee that Group B will get a harder sentence.

                                  But again, I agree with Jon. I dont think that the people who broke into the Capital got too hard a sentence, I think that the people who did the damage to the federal buildings got too light a sentence.

                                  Rewrite this sugar...

                                  1. 700 police injured.
                                  2. At least 11 people killed.
                                  3. $1.2B damage

                                  Vs.

                                  1. 140 police injured (I think that's inflated, but let's go with it).
                                  2. 1 person killed (unarmed, on the other side of a wall)
                                  3. $1.5M damage

                                  Yes, I can certainly see how those figures are equal..

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  • JollyJ Jolly

                                    @taiwan_girl said in Funny, I haven't seen this before...:

                                    @Jolly said in Funny, I haven't seen this before...:

                                    We're not talking Person A vs. Person B.

                                    We're talking multiple people.

                                    Same thing. I can rewrite as:

                                    Group A breaks into a local 7-11, goes into the back office and takes personal items from the office desk.

                                    Group B breaks into the White House, goes into the oval office and takes personal items from the office desk

                                    100% guarantee that Group B will get a harder sentence.

                                    But again, I agree with Jon. I dont think that the people who broke into the Capital got too hard a sentence, I think that the people who did the damage to the federal buildings got too light a sentence.

                                    Rewrite this sugar...

                                    1. 700 police injured.
                                    2. At least 11 people killed.
                                    3. $1.2B damage

                                    Vs.

                                    1. 140 police injured (I think that's inflated, but let's go with it).
                                    2. 1 person killed (unarmed, on the other side of a wall)
                                    3. $1.5M damage

                                    Yes, I can certainly see how those figures are equal..

                                    jon-nycJ Offline
                                    jon-nycJ Offline
                                    jon-nyc
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                                    #22

                                    @Jolly said in Funny, I haven't seen this before...:

                                    @taiwan_girl said in Funny, I haven't seen this before...:

                                    1. 700 police injured.
                                    2. At least 11 people killed.
                                    3. $1.2B damage

                                    Vs.

                                    1. 140 police injured (I think that's inflated, but let's go with it).
                                    2. 1 person killed (unarmed, violently breaking through a door towards where the congressmen were)
                                    3. $1.5M damage

                                    Yes, I can certainly see how those figures are equal..

                                    NNTTM.

                                    But keep in mind the macro picture doesn't really matter for any one individual's criminal proceeding, it's about what they themselves did.

                                    And the fact that they did this at the Capitol threatening elected officials actually does matter to individual criminal proceedings.

                                    You were warned.

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                                      Copper
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                                      #23

                                      Don't forget the selfies

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                                        Doctor Phibes
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                                        It's a shame you chaps don't play more soccer. That tends to be a good place where yobs can congregate and fight one another. Political thuggery is so gauche.

                                        I was only joking

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                                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                          @Jolly said in Funny, I haven't seen this before...:

                                          @taiwan_girl said in Funny, I haven't seen this before...:

                                          1. 700 police injured.
                                          2. At least 11 people killed.
                                          3. $1.2B damage

                                          Vs.

                                          1. 140 police injured (I think that's inflated, but let's go with it).
                                          2. 1 person killed (unarmed, violently breaking through a door towards where the congressmen were)
                                          3. $1.5M damage

                                          Yes, I can certainly see how those figures are equal..

                                          NNTTM.

                                          But keep in mind the macro picture doesn't really matter for any one individual's criminal proceeding, it's about what they themselves did.

                                          And the fact that they did this at the Capitol threatening elected officials actually does matter to individual criminal proceedings.

                                          HoraceH Online
                                          HoraceH Online
                                          Horace
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #25

                                          @jon-nyc said in Funny, I haven't seen this before...:

                                          But keep in mind the macro picture doesn't really matter for any one individual's criminal proceeding, it's about what they themselves did.

                                          That depends on which bias is being claimed.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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