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  • HoraceH Horace

    @jon-nyc said in SBF/FTX:

    @Horace obviously not.

    You think the guys pushing the Dems->Ukraine->FTX->Dems absurdity want to add the GOP to the lineup?

    I am sure that theory about money flow does not hold up to scrutiny. It is prominent in your mind because it's an easy win for your tribe, while the more important and meaningful narrative remains intact. SBF sought social advantage, and he did so by publicly siding unequivocally with the Dems.

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    jon-nyc
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    #39

    @Horace

    Ok sure the GOP talking point can become “if you want to be high status join the other party” but somehow I don’t think that’s how Fox News will play it.

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      @Horace

      Ok sure the GOP talking point can become “if you want to be high status join the other party” but somehow I don’t think that’s how Fox News will play it.

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      Horace
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      #40

      @jon-nyc said in SBF/FTX:

      @Horace

      Ok sure the GOP talking point can become “if you want to be high status join the other party” but somehow I don’t think that’s how Fox News will play it.

      It works perfectly well as it's already being played in pieces not devoted to the conspiracy theory you're dunking on. That the Dems are the party of soulless principle-free social climbers. I'm sure that narrative has more of a kernel of truth to it than the ever-popular narrative about the Republicans being the party of racists.

      Education is extremely important.

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        taiwan_girl
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        #41

        Fron USD $26 billion to USD$100K

        https://www.axios.com/2022/11/29/sam-bankman-fried-100000-ftx-cftc-regulation

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        • jon-nycJ Online
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          jon-nyc
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          #42

          Let’s put it in perspective, 100k isn’t bad for an unemployed 30 year old.

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            Horace
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            #43

            More than I had at that age.

            Education is extremely important.

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              Doctor Phibes
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              #44

              Hell, I'd be pushed to drum up $26 billion even now.

              I was only joking

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              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                Hell, I'd be pushed to drum up $26 billion even now.

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                Horace
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                #45

                @Doctor-Phibes said in SBF/FTX:

                Hell, I'd be pushed to drum up $26 billion even now.

                You might have some valuable collectible memorabilia from your childhood in a developing country. Progressives use canned haggis as display pieces on their coffee tables, to signal their solidarity with the disadvantaged.

                Education is extremely important.

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                  xenon
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                  He has the movie rights, I guess.

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                  • George KG Offline
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                    George K
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                    #47

                    I haven't followed this story all that much, other than to be amazed at the Ponzi/Madoff nature of it all.

                    But this twitter comment was great.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • jon-nycJ Online
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                      jon-nyc
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                      #48

                      Yeah, Federal Prison looms large in his future.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                        jon-nyc
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                        #49

                        Lots of people have (rightly) criticized much of the media for going lightly on him, but George Stephanopoulos definitely puts him on the spot.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                          George K
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                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            Could a congressional subpoena even result in any punishment? I presume so, but no idea.

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                              Doctor Phibes
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                              They really ought to put a cap on how much people and corporations can donate to political parties.

                              I’d be happy with zero dollars, however that might be unrealistic

                              I was only joking

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                              • 89th8 89th

                                Could a congressional subpoena even result in any punishment? I presume so, but no idea.

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                                George K
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                                @89th said in SBF/FTX:

                                Could a congressional subpoena even result in any punishment? I presume so, but no idea.

                                Presumably, a subpoena can lead to a criminal referral by the committee. Then it's up to the DOJ to decide whether to prosecute.

                                Nice that SBF won't be called, so that, should he refuse to testify, he doesn't have to suffer the indignity of being held in contempt of congress and being jailed just like Lois Lerner Eric Holder Steve Bannon.

                                (Insert GIF of Waters blowing a kiss to SBF here: _______________)

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  jon-nyc
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                                  #54

                                  More context.

                                  https://thehill.com/policy/finance/3763916-house-panel-wants-answers-from-bankman-fried-on-ftx-collapse/amp/

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                                    I just presume that “they” will charge him, and he will go to jail. Not sure who “they” is, maybe they are a he/she.

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                                      Horace
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                                      I'm waiting for more information before making any judgments. But at this stage, I can't help but feel that SBF is a jerk.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                        jon-nyc
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                                        Federal prosecutors will almost certainly charge him at some point and congressional hearing would not really facilitate that process anyway.

                                        Assuming the hypothetical scenario where we had a functional Congress, the utility of hearings would be to help Congress determine what kinds of regulations might be necessary for crypto.

                                        In the world we actually live in, hearings are just an opportunity for members to perform in front of the cameras.

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                          Federal prosecutors will almost certainly charge him at some point and congressional hearing would not really facilitate that process anyway.

                                          Assuming the hypothetical scenario where we had a functional Congress, the utility of hearings would be to help Congress determine what kinds of regulations might be necessary for crypto.

                                          In the world we actually live in, hearings are just an opportunity for members to perform in front of the cameras.

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                                          George K
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                                          @jon-nyc said in SBF/FTX:

                                          In the world we actually live in, hearings are just an opportunity for members to perform in front of the cameras.

                                          Yes. Pathetic...on everyone's part.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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