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  • HoraceH Horace

    If the company had its own boutique crypto currency which was valued at the most recent transaction price, which in turn was whatever SBF wanted it to be, then I suppose the bubble pop makes sense. But that would be the pop of a bubble that wasn’t inflated with real money to begin with. My question is where did all the real money go? I mean other to Democrats, as SBF tried to climb socially through the high status political ranks of the left.

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    @Horace The immediate answer is Alameda but it's still unclear what they were doing with it.

    Also it's unclear when the shady stuff (using customer money) started. Did they do that from the get-go? Or was it an act of desperation over the summer when crypto started to go south that they hoped would be temporary?

    Only non-witches get due process.

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      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        #23

        The well from which my money cometh.

        Remind me to check my IQ again...

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          #24

          Check your IQ again.

          Nobody disputes that he gives lots of money to Dems. It’s the idea that he suddenly, years into the project, decides to charge Ukraine for it that is ridiculous.

          Only non-witches get due process.

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            Sure.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                #27

                @George-K I was reading that Caroline Ellison's father is the dept head of economics at MIT and her mother is a eon comics professor there. When she (Caroline) was 8 years old, she wrote a economics paper on toy pricing at Toys are Us.

                She is probably alot of fun at parties!!

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                  The new CEO is getting paid $1300/hr.

                  (But, it is quite a specialized skill set, so he is probably worth it if he can figure out the USD billions that are floating around).

                  https://fortune.com/2022/11/21/new-ftx-ceo-john-ray-hired-clean-sam-bankman-fried-mess-paid-1300-hour/

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                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      Under FTX Acquisitions, they missed Democrats.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                        #31

                        https://www.reuters.com/technology/exclusive-bankman-frieds-ftx-parents-bought-bahamas-property-worth-121-mln-2022-11-22/

                        NEW PROVIDENCE, Bahamas, Nov 22 (Reuters) - Sam Bankman-Fried's FTX, his parents and senior executives of the failed cryptocurrency exchange bought at least 19 properties worth nearly $121 million in the Bahamas over the past two years, official property records show.

                        Separately, attorneys for FTX said on Tuesday that one of the company's units spent $300 million in the Bahamas buying homes and vacation properties for its senior staff, and that FTX was run as a "personal fiefdom" of Bankman-Fried.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            #33

                            What do Bernie Madoff, SBF, and Harvey Weinstein have in common? Their politics.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              Interesting

                              Only non-witches get due process.

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                                Ha. The NY Post buried it in p16 of a piece about his sex life.

                                I guess Murdoch inc wants to keep the SBF-Democrats narrative in play.

                                https://nypost.com/2022/11/30/ftxs-sam-bankman-fried-fumed-over-media-spotlight-on-polyamorous-sex-life/?dicbo=v2-047dae0c76df5466b6d98ad07749133e

                                Only non-witches get due process.

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                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                  Ha. The NY Post buried it in p16 of a piece about his sex life.

                                  I guess Murdoch inc wants to keep the SBF-Democrats narrative in play.

                                  https://nypost.com/2022/11/30/ftxs-sam-bankman-fried-fumed-over-media-spotlight-on-polyamorous-sex-life/?dicbo=v2-047dae0c76df5466b6d98ad07749133e

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                                  @jon-nyc said in SBF/FTX:

                                  Ha. The NY Post buried it in p16 of a piece about his sex life.

                                  I guess Murdoch inc wants to keep the SBF-Democrats narrative in play.

                                  https://nypost.com/2022/11/30/ftxs-sam-bankman-fried-fumed-over-media-spotlight-on-polyamorous-sex-life/?dicbo=v2-047dae0c76df5466b6d98ad07749133e

                                  The narrative, which is still in play, is that soulless opportunists can be counted on to publicly espouse leftism. Obviously.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                  • HoraceH Horace

                                    @jon-nyc said in SBF/FTX:

                                    Ha. The NY Post buried it in p16 of a piece about his sex life.

                                    I guess Murdoch inc wants to keep the SBF-Democrats narrative in play.

                                    https://nypost.com/2022/11/30/ftxs-sam-bankman-fried-fumed-over-media-spotlight-on-polyamorous-sex-life/?dicbo=v2-047dae0c76df5466b6d98ad07749133e

                                    The narrative, which is still in play, is that soulless opportunists can be counted on to publicly espouse leftism. Obviously.

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                                    jon-nyc
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                                    #37

                                    @Horace obviously not.

                                    You think the guys pushing the Dems->Ukraine->FTX->Dems absurdity want to add the GOP to the lineup?

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

                                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                      @Horace obviously not.

                                      You think the guys pushing the Dems->Ukraine->FTX->Dems absurdity want to add the GOP to the lineup?

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                                      @jon-nyc said in SBF/FTX:

                                      @Horace obviously not.

                                      You think the guys pushing the Dems->Ukraine->FTX->Dems absurdity want to add the GOP to the lineup?

                                      I am sure that theory about money flow does not hold up to scrutiny. It is prominent in your mind because it's an easy win for your tribe, while the more important and meaningful narrative remains intact. SBF sought social advantage, and he did so by publicly siding unequivocally with the Dems.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                      • HoraceH Horace

                                        @jon-nyc said in SBF/FTX:

                                        @Horace obviously not.

                                        You think the guys pushing the Dems->Ukraine->FTX->Dems absurdity want to add the GOP to the lineup?

                                        I am sure that theory about money flow does not hold up to scrutiny. It is prominent in your mind because it's an easy win for your tribe, while the more important and meaningful narrative remains intact. SBF sought social advantage, and he did so by publicly siding unequivocally with the Dems.

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                                        @Horace

                                        Ok sure the GOP talking point can become “if you want to be high status join the other party” but somehow I don’t think that’s how Fox News will play it.

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                          @Horace

                                          Ok sure the GOP talking point can become “if you want to be high status join the other party” but somehow I don’t think that’s how Fox News will play it.

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                                          @jon-nyc said in SBF/FTX:

                                          @Horace

                                          Ok sure the GOP talking point can become “if you want to be high status join the other party” but somehow I don’t think that’s how Fox News will play it.

                                          It works perfectly well as it's already being played in pieces not devoted to the conspiracy theory you're dunking on. That the Dems are the party of soulless principle-free social climbers. I'm sure that narrative has more of a kernel of truth to it than the ever-popular narrative about the Republicans being the party of racists.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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