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SBF/FTX

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  • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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    Doctor Phibes
    wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
    #15

    I still don’t understand any of this.

    It sounds like maybe I’m not alone

    I was only joking

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    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

      @Ivorythumper whew!

      I didn’t take you for a crypto bro. Lol

      IvorythumperI Offline
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      Ivorythumper
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      #16

      @jon-nyc said in SBF/FTX:

      @Ivorythumper whew!

      I didn’t take you for a crypto bro. Lol

      We can’t in the house due to MS’s work restrictions.

      Good thing— I started seriously thinking about it exactly 1 year ago!

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      • jon-nycJ Online
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        jon-nyc
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        #17

        I sent that last twitter thread to a okd Credit Suisse buddy who later worked in crypto.

        His reply:

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        Only non-witches get due process.

        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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        • AxtremusA Away
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          Axtremus
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          #18

          Yeah, just recently a Sequoia guy said it has done "careful due diligence" on FTX and "there's nothing much we could have done any differently."

          https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/18/vc-firm-sequoia-capitals-doug-leone-on-the-fallout-from-ftx-collapse.html

          SoftBank also invested in FTX but it’s the VC that has also lost a ton of money in WeWork, so I suppose it doesn’t quite qualify as “proper investor” as much as Sequoia.

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          • jon-nycJ Online
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            jon-nyc
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            #19

            Another friend, who's had some dealings with SBF, told me that they paid employees and contractors into their FTX accounts, meaning they're all creditors too.

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            • HoraceH Offline
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              Horace
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              #20

              If the company had its own boutique crypto currency which was valued at the most recent transaction price, which in turn was whatever SBF wanted it to be, then I suppose the bubble pop makes sense. But that would be the pop of a bubble that wasn’t inflated with real money to begin with. My question is where did all the real money go? I mean other to Democrats, as SBF tried to climb socially through the high status political ranks of the left.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • HoraceH Horace

                If the company had its own boutique crypto currency which was valued at the most recent transaction price, which in turn was whatever SBF wanted it to be, then I suppose the bubble pop makes sense. But that would be the pop of a bubble that wasn’t inflated with real money to begin with. My question is where did all the real money go? I mean other to Democrats, as SBF tried to climb socially through the high status political ranks of the left.

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                jon-nyc
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                #21

                @Horace The immediate answer is Alameda but it's still unclear what they were doing with it.

                Also it's unclear when the shady stuff (using customer money) started. Did they do that from the get-go? Or was it an act of desperation over the summer when crypto started to go south that they hoped would be temporary?

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                • George KG Offline
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                  George K
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #22

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • JollyJ Offline
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                    Jolly
                    wrote on last edited by Jolly
                    #23

                    The well from which my money cometh.

                    Remind me to check my IQ again...

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • jon-nycJ Online
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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                      #24

                      Check your IQ again.

                      Nobody disputes that he gives lots of money to Dems. It’s the idea that he suddenly, years into the project, decides to charge Ukraine for it that is ridiculous.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      • JollyJ Offline
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                        #25

                        Sure.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • George KG Offline
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                          George K
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                          #26

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                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            taiwan_girlT Offline
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                            taiwan_girl
                            wrote on last edited by taiwan_girl
                            #27

                            @George-K I was reading that Caroline Ellison's father is the dept head of economics at MIT and her mother is a eon comics professor there. When she (Caroline) was 8 years old, she wrote a economics paper on toy pricing at Toys are Us.

                            She is probably alot of fun at parties!!

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                            • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                              taiwan_girl
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #28

                              The new CEO is getting paid $1300/hr.

                              (But, it is quite a specialized skill set, so he is probably worth it if he can figure out the USD billions that are floating around).

                              https://fortune.com/2022/11/21/new-ftx-ceo-john-ray-hired-clean-sam-bankman-fried-mess-paid-1300-hour/

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                              • jon-nycJ Online
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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #29

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                                Only non-witches get due process.

                                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                • HoraceH Offline
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                                  #30

                                  Under FTX Acquisitions, they missed Democrats.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                  • HoraceH Offline
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                                    Horace
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                                    #31

                                    https://www.reuters.com/technology/exclusive-bankman-frieds-ftx-parents-bought-bahamas-property-worth-121-mln-2022-11-22/

                                    NEW PROVIDENCE, Bahamas, Nov 22 (Reuters) - Sam Bankman-Fried's FTX, his parents and senior executives of the failed cryptocurrency exchange bought at least 19 properties worth nearly $121 million in the Bahamas over the past two years, official property records show.

                                    Separately, attorneys for FTX said on Tuesday that one of the company's units spent $300 million in the Bahamas buying homes and vacation properties for its senior staff, and that FTX was run as a "personal fiefdom" of Bankman-Fried.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                    • George KG Offline
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                                      George K
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #32

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                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      • HoraceH Offline
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                                        Horace
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #33

                                        What do Bernie Madoff, SBF, and Harvey Weinstein have in common? Their politics.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                        • jon-nycJ Online
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                                          jon-nyc
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #34

                                          Interesting

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

                                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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