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  • JollyJ Jolly

    @LuFins-Dad said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

    @Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

    As best I can tell, currently Trump is beating the shit out of DeSantis...

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2024/president/us/2024_republican_presidential_nomination-7548.html#polls

    That may be. And a vote in the primary for Trump is a vote for Biden in the general election…

    By the way, Lame Donald is currently pro Budweiser, pro Disney, and is starting to lose his pro-life support.

    Ben Shapiro has commented that Trump will run from the Center-Left side of the Republican platform. How will that play with the base?

    https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-jr-sparks-maga-fury-bud-light-comments-1794625

    https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/news/trump/2023/04/19/trump-criticizes-desantis-on-disney-with-economic-disaster-in-florida/70129695007/

    https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-abortion-2024-president-81373a7c8523db24f928d713ff90aa31

    The GOP primaries may be over before they start. The Hunter Biden story is finally starting to break and you know what? There are a lot of people who voted for Biden in the general, that wouldn't have voted for him if it hadn't been for the damage control letter that has now been shown to be instigated and correlated by the Biden campaign.

    But those are just general election voters. Can't speak for all GOP voters, but a lot of them down here think Trump was treated unfairly. Historically unfair. The political impeachments, the Russia! silliness, the Hunter laptop denial and spin by the MSM and yes, some of the election night shenanigans that many still think happened. Those voters also look at their grocery bills, the interest rates on loans, the price of a new car and general Bidenflation, and they'd like to see this merry-go-round of woke justice fixation stop and let the Whitehouse go back to worrying about the economy and kitchen table problems.

    It's going to be interesting.

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    LuFins Dad
    wrote on last edited by
    #251

    @Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

    @LuFins-Dad said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

    @Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

    As best I can tell, currently Trump is beating the shit out of DeSantis...

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2024/president/us/2024_republican_presidential_nomination-7548.html#polls

    That may be. And a vote in the primary for Trump is a vote for Biden in the general election…

    By the way, Lame Donald is currently pro Budweiser, pro Disney, and is starting to lose his pro-life support.

    Ben Shapiro has commented that Trump will run from the Center-Left side of the Republican platform. How will that play with the base?

    https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-jr-sparks-maga-fury-bud-light-comments-1794625

    https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/news/trump/2023/04/19/trump-criticizes-desantis-on-disney-with-economic-disaster-in-florida/70129695007/

    https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-abortion-2024-president-81373a7c8523db24f928d713ff90aa31

    The GOP primaries may be over before they start. The Hunter Biden story is finally starting to break and you know what? There are a lot of people who voted for Biden in the general, that wouldn't have voted for him if it hadn't been for the damage control letter that has now been shown to be instigated and correlated by the Biden campaign.

    But those are just general election voters. Can't speak for all GOP voters, but a lot of them down here think Trump was treated unfairly. Historically unfair. The political impeachments, the Russia! silliness, the Hunter laptop denial and spin by the MSM and yes, some of the election night shenanigans that many still think happened. Those voters also look at their grocery bills, the interest rates on loans, the price of a new car and general Bidenflation, and they'd like to see this merry-go-round of woke justice fixation stop and let the Whitehouse go back to worrying about the economy and kitchen table problems.

    It's going to be interesting.

    So you believe that Republicans are going to vote for the guy that wants to support Bud Light and Dylan Mulvaney and agrees with Disney that we should be teaching queer theory to Kindergartners. Got it.

    The Brad

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      LuFins Dad
      wrote on last edited by
      #252

      There’s a few factors that keep getting skipped in this story.

      1. Disney would lose billions in leaving Florida. I mean hundreds of billions…Trillion +? Don’t forget that they STILL get hundreds of millions in tax incentives to be in Florida that would require a similar sweetheart deal from another warm weather state. Gulf Coast, Georgia, and the Carolinas are a no, maybe California, Nevada, or Arizona but will the AOCs allow that to happen? On top of that, the cost to build DisneyWorld today would be $4.5 Billion… That’s today… Over the actual 25 years it would actually take to complete that woud be close to $8,000,000,000.

      2. Now, let’s talk lost revenue… 20% of WDW revenue comes from Florida residents. Will Arizona be able to match that? Arizona has 30% the population of Florida.

      3. While Disney built Orlando, Orlando now feeds Disney. Universal Studios generates 75% of WDW’s total. And is building a 3rd park that will close the gap. Add on all of the other parks (Busch Gardens, LegoLand, Sea World and Orlando is split between Disney and Everything Else. If Disney leaves, you can expect somebody to purchase the developed propert to expand or build their own theme parks on the same primed property. Orlando will lose some business with Disney gone, buy it won’t be a catastrophe, while Disney would face a rivalry it’s never faced before…

      4. This is very easily walked back. Disney has always been very private in their political aspirations. They are getting their ass handed to them on left-leaning programming. The streaming and ticket sales are dropping. They could easily just go back to a family friendly business model and not lose…

      The Brad

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      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

        @Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

        @LuFins-Dad said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

        @Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

        As best I can tell, currently Trump is beating the shit out of DeSantis...

        https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2024/president/us/2024_republican_presidential_nomination-7548.html#polls

        That may be. And a vote in the primary for Trump is a vote for Biden in the general election…

        By the way, Lame Donald is currently pro Budweiser, pro Disney, and is starting to lose his pro-life support.

        Ben Shapiro has commented that Trump will run from the Center-Left side of the Republican platform. How will that play with the base?

        https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-jr-sparks-maga-fury-bud-light-comments-1794625

        https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/news/trump/2023/04/19/trump-criticizes-desantis-on-disney-with-economic-disaster-in-florida/70129695007/

        https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-abortion-2024-president-81373a7c8523db24f928d713ff90aa31

        The GOP primaries may be over before they start. The Hunter Biden story is finally starting to break and you know what? There are a lot of people who voted for Biden in the general, that wouldn't have voted for him if it hadn't been for the damage control letter that has now been shown to be instigated and correlated by the Biden campaign.

        But those are just general election voters. Can't speak for all GOP voters, but a lot of them down here think Trump was treated unfairly. Historically unfair. The political impeachments, the Russia! silliness, the Hunter laptop denial and spin by the MSM and yes, some of the election night shenanigans that many still think happened. Those voters also look at their grocery bills, the interest rates on loans, the price of a new car and general Bidenflation, and they'd like to see this merry-go-round of woke justice fixation stop and let the Whitehouse go back to worrying about the economy and kitchen table problems.

        It's going to be interesting.

        So you believe that Republicans are going to vote for the guy that wants to support Bud Light and Dylan Mulvaney and agrees with Disney that we should be teaching queer theory to Kindergartners. Got it.

        JollyJ Offline
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        Jolly
        wrote on last edited by
        #253

        @LuFins-Dad said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

        @Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

        @LuFins-Dad said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

        @Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

        As best I can tell, currently Trump is beating the shit out of DeSantis...

        https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2024/president/us/2024_republican_presidential_nomination-7548.html#polls

        That may be. And a vote in the primary for Trump is a vote for Biden in the general election…

        By the way, Lame Donald is currently pro Budweiser, pro Disney, and is starting to lose his pro-life support.

        Ben Shapiro has commented that Trump will run from the Center-Left side of the Republican platform. How will that play with the base?

        https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-jr-sparks-maga-fury-bud-light-comments-1794625

        https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/news/trump/2023/04/19/trump-criticizes-desantis-on-disney-with-economic-disaster-in-florida/70129695007/

        https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-abortion-2024-president-81373a7c8523db24f928d713ff90aa31

        The GOP primaries may be over before they start. The Hunter Biden story is finally starting to break and you know what? There are a lot of people who voted for Biden in the general, that wouldn't have voted for him if it hadn't been for the damage control letter that has now been shown to be instigated and correlated by the Biden campaign.

        But those are just general election voters. Can't speak for all GOP voters, but a lot of them down here think Trump was treated unfairly. Historically unfair. The political impeachments, the Russia! silliness, the Hunter laptop denial and spin by the MSM and yes, some of the election night shenanigans that many still think happened. Those voters also look at their grocery bills, the interest rates on loans, the price of a new car and general Bidenflation, and they'd like to see this merry-go-round of woke justice fixation stop and let the Whitehouse go back to worrying about the economy and kitchen table problems.

        It's going to be interesting.

        So you believe that Republicans are going to vote for the guy that wants to support Bud Light and Dylan Mulvaney and agrees with Disney that we should be teaching queer theory to Kindergartners. Got it.

        Perception is reality.

        I don't think the Mulvaney story or the Disney story will hurt Trump one iota. The biggest threat to Trump, is Trump's mouth.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • JollyJ Jolly

          @LuFins-Dad said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

          @Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

          @LuFins-Dad said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

          @Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

          As best I can tell, currently Trump is beating the shit out of DeSantis...

          https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2024/president/us/2024_republican_presidential_nomination-7548.html#polls

          That may be. And a vote in the primary for Trump is a vote for Biden in the general election…

          By the way, Lame Donald is currently pro Budweiser, pro Disney, and is starting to lose his pro-life support.

          Ben Shapiro has commented that Trump will run from the Center-Left side of the Republican platform. How will that play with the base?

          https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-jr-sparks-maga-fury-bud-light-comments-1794625

          https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/news/trump/2023/04/19/trump-criticizes-desantis-on-disney-with-economic-disaster-in-florida/70129695007/

          https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-abortion-2024-president-81373a7c8523db24f928d713ff90aa31

          The GOP primaries may be over before they start. The Hunter Biden story is finally starting to break and you know what? There are a lot of people who voted for Biden in the general, that wouldn't have voted for him if it hadn't been for the damage control letter that has now been shown to be instigated and correlated by the Biden campaign.

          But those are just general election voters. Can't speak for all GOP voters, but a lot of them down here think Trump was treated unfairly. Historically unfair. The political impeachments, the Russia! silliness, the Hunter laptop denial and spin by the MSM and yes, some of the election night shenanigans that many still think happened. Those voters also look at their grocery bills, the interest rates on loans, the price of a new car and general Bidenflation, and they'd like to see this merry-go-round of woke justice fixation stop and let the Whitehouse go back to worrying about the economy and kitchen table problems.

          It's going to be interesting.

          So you believe that Republicans are going to vote for the guy that wants to support Bud Light and Dylan Mulvaney and agrees with Disney that we should be teaching queer theory to Kindergartners. Got it.

          Perception is reality.

          I don't think the Mulvaney story or the Disney story will hurt Trump one iota. The biggest threat to Trump, is Trump's mouth.

          MikM Offline
          MikM Offline
          Mik
          wrote on last edited by
          #254

          @Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

          The biggest threat to Trump, is Trump's mouth.

          Truer words were never spoken.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • JollyJ Jolly

            @LuFins-Dad said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

            @Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

            @LuFins-Dad said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

            @Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

            As best I can tell, currently Trump is beating the shit out of DeSantis...

            https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2024/president/us/2024_republican_presidential_nomination-7548.html#polls

            That may be. And a vote in the primary for Trump is a vote for Biden in the general election…

            By the way, Lame Donald is currently pro Budweiser, pro Disney, and is starting to lose his pro-life support.

            Ben Shapiro has commented that Trump will run from the Center-Left side of the Republican platform. How will that play with the base?

            https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-jr-sparks-maga-fury-bud-light-comments-1794625

            https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/news/trump/2023/04/19/trump-criticizes-desantis-on-disney-with-economic-disaster-in-florida/70129695007/

            https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-abortion-2024-president-81373a7c8523db24f928d713ff90aa31

            The GOP primaries may be over before they start. The Hunter Biden story is finally starting to break and you know what? There are a lot of people who voted for Biden in the general, that wouldn't have voted for him if it hadn't been for the damage control letter that has now been shown to be instigated and correlated by the Biden campaign.

            But those are just general election voters. Can't speak for all GOP voters, but a lot of them down here think Trump was treated unfairly. Historically unfair. The political impeachments, the Russia! silliness, the Hunter laptop denial and spin by the MSM and yes, some of the election night shenanigans that many still think happened. Those voters also look at their grocery bills, the interest rates on loans, the price of a new car and general Bidenflation, and they'd like to see this merry-go-round of woke justice fixation stop and let the Whitehouse go back to worrying about the economy and kitchen table problems.

            It's going to be interesting.

            So you believe that Republicans are going to vote for the guy that wants to support Bud Light and Dylan Mulvaney and agrees with Disney that we should be teaching queer theory to Kindergartners. Got it.

            Perception is reality.

            I don't think the Mulvaney story or the Disney story will hurt Trump one iota. The biggest threat to Trump, is Trump's mouth.

            LuFins DadL Offline
            LuFins DadL Offline
            LuFins Dad
            wrote on last edited by
            #255

            @Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

            @LuFins-Dad said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

            @Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

            @LuFins-Dad said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

            @Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

            As best I can tell, currently Trump is beating the shit out of DeSantis...

            https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2024/president/us/2024_republican_presidential_nomination-7548.html#polls

            That may be. And a vote in the primary for Trump is a vote for Biden in the general election…

            By the way, Lame Donald is currently pro Budweiser, pro Disney, and is starting to lose his pro-life support.

            Ben Shapiro has commented that Trump will run from the Center-Left side of the Republican platform. How will that play with the base?

            https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-jr-sparks-maga-fury-bud-light-comments-1794625

            https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/news/trump/2023/04/19/trump-criticizes-desantis-on-disney-with-economic-disaster-in-florida/70129695007/

            https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-abortion-2024-president-81373a7c8523db24f928d713ff90aa31

            The GOP primaries may be over before they start. The Hunter Biden story is finally starting to break and you know what? There are a lot of people who voted for Biden in the general, that wouldn't have voted for him if it hadn't been for the damage control letter that has now been shown to be instigated and correlated by the Biden campaign.

            But those are just general election voters. Can't speak for all GOP voters, but a lot of them down here think Trump was treated unfairly. Historically unfair. The political impeachments, the Russia! silliness, the Hunter laptop denial and spin by the MSM and yes, some of the election night shenanigans that many still think happened. Those voters also look at their grocery bills, the interest rates on loans, the price of a new car and general Bidenflation, and they'd like to see this merry-go-round of woke justice fixation stop and let the Whitehouse go back to worrying about the economy and kitchen table problems.

            It's going to be interesting.

            So you believe that Republicans are going to vote for the guy that wants to support Bud Light and Dylan Mulvaney and agrees with Disney that we should be teaching queer theory to Kindergartners. Got it.

            Perception is reality.

            I don't think the Mulvaney story or the Disney story will hurt Trump one iota. The biggest threat to Trump, is Trump's mouth.

            What about one the ads start showing Trump Jr asking people to not boycott Budweiser and put Trump’s face next to Dylan, then showing Trump partying with Drag Queens at Howard Stern parties?

            What about when adds show Trump and Disney promoting Genderqueer in elementary schools?

            The question is how low is DeSantis willing to go? Personally? I think I could get him the presidency in a hot minute if he sacrificed a few ideals…

            The Brad

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              #256

              Do you really want a president who is willing to do that? Haven't you had enough of that?

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                #257

                And I like DeSantis...But...

                https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/04/21/majority-florida-gop-congressional-delegation-has-endorsed-trump-raising-questions-about-desantis-s-viability/

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  #258

                  Governor DeSantis is currently on a foreign tour of Japan, South Korea, Israel, and UK.

                  https://www.businessinsider.com/desantis-explains-slide-in-the-polls-against-trump-japan-trip-2023-4?op=1

                  I had to laugh at the part of the article:

                  QUOTE
                  The governor is spending this week abroad on an international trade mission that will also take him to South Korea, Israel, and the United Kingdom. The trip will give him an opportunity to expand his foreign policy chops — which are typically a smaller part of a governor's portfolio.
                  UNQUOTE

                  Explain to me how a 1 week tour of four foreign countries will increase his foreign policy skills? As someone who has been involved in this, he will fly in, meet some "important" people, shake some hands, get some photos taken, give a talk, maybe sign a few papers, etc. and then leave. The odds of him really "seeing" any parts of these countries is about zero.

                  I am sure his handlers (and maybe even himself) thinks this will be good for his foreign policy skills, but it is kind of laughable.

                  (I know that Gov. DeSantis is not the only politician that does this. And I laugh at the others also.)

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                  • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                    Governor DeSantis is currently on a foreign tour of Japan, South Korea, Israel, and UK.

                    https://www.businessinsider.com/desantis-explains-slide-in-the-polls-against-trump-japan-trip-2023-4?op=1

                    I had to laugh at the part of the article:

                    QUOTE
                    The governor is spending this week abroad on an international trade mission that will also take him to South Korea, Israel, and the United Kingdom. The trip will give him an opportunity to expand his foreign policy chops — which are typically a smaller part of a governor's portfolio.
                    UNQUOTE

                    Explain to me how a 1 week tour of four foreign countries will increase his foreign policy skills? As someone who has been involved in this, he will fly in, meet some "important" people, shake some hands, get some photos taken, give a talk, maybe sign a few papers, etc. and then leave. The odds of him really "seeing" any parts of these countries is about zero.

                    I am sure his handlers (and maybe even himself) thinks this will be good for his foreign policy skills, but it is kind of laughable.

                    (I know that Gov. DeSantis is not the only politician that does this. And I laugh at the others also.)

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                    @taiwan_girl said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                    Explain to me how a 1 week tour of four foreign countries will increase his foreign policy skills?

                    What it actually does is let a few foreign folk know that he exists, so that when he runs for President their initial reaction isn't "Who?".

                    I was only joking

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                      #260

                      https://www.huffpost.com/entry/gop-megadonor-ron-desantis-reports_n_6448decfe4b04997b574bc3c

                      GOP mega donor billionaire: definitely not Trump, now maybe also not DeSantis.

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                        Huffpo still exists?

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          Trump's very first TV spot of the 24 election season.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

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                            Despite the current polls, I think Trump is seriously worried about DeSantis. The other day he suggested that DeSantis not run this year.

                            "If you're catching flak..."

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              He's certainly been a real competitor in terms of the news cycle over the last few months, if not GOP voters. That is probably enough in itself to focus Trump on taking him down a peg.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

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                                I don't know a lot about DeSantis, but I assume all politicians are products of what they think their voters want. I would prefer him to Trump, for sure. The cultural baggage of Trump isn't worth it.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                  Trump's very first TV spot of the 24 election season.

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                                  @jon-nyc said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                                  Trump's very first TV spot of the 24 election season.

                                  Saturday Night Live has really gone downhill of late.

                                  I was only joking

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                                    @jon-nyc said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                                    Trump's very first TV spot of the 24 election season.

                                    Saturday Night Live has really gone downhill of late.

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                                    @Doctor-Phibes

                                    First thing I noticed in that Trump campaign screed was the narrator’s voice. Same folksy cadence and timbre of Ronald Reagan.

                                    No doubt intentional.

                                    Elbows up!

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                                      Mein gott.

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                                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                                        боже мой

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          And the Democrats continue to smile and rub their hands, hoping that President Trump is the Republic candidate.

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