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  • M Mik
    13 Nov 2022, 02:50

    I think you are right. But we have to face that eventually.

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    LuFins Dad
    wrote on 13 Nov 2022, 03:08 last edited by
    #142

    @Mik said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

    I think you are right. But we have to face that eventually.

    I don’t disagree, but Romney and McCain brought in 60,000,000 votes each. Donald brought in 74,000,000 in 2020 and it still wasn’t enough. Biden came in at 80,000,000. What’s the threshold for a Republican victory in a non-Trump Election? Can DeSantis top 80,000,000 if he needs to? 70,000,000? These are questions that do need to be asked.

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      Mik
      wrote on 13 Nov 2022, 03:10 last edited by
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      I think eventually he can. But Trump needs to be backed off or drawn in to support. A bit late for the latter, but two years is a long time.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        Doctor Phibes
        wrote on 13 Nov 2022, 03:35 last edited by
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        What is it with Trump that attracts these people?

        I don’t understand why somebody who calls themself conservative wouldn’t vote for DeSantis but would vote for Trump.

        I was only joking

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          kluurs
          wrote on 13 Nov 2022, 04:02 last edited by
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          Does anyone think Trump would back off and shut down criticism of a Republican candidate for the Presidency that didn't have the "Trump" name? I think he'd criticize any mistakes made by DeSantis and then after the defeat note that he'd have won if he'd been enabled to run.

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          • K kluurs
            13 Nov 2022, 04:02

            Does anyone think Trump would back off and shut down criticism of a Republican candidate for the Presidency that didn't have the "Trump" name? I think he'd criticize any mistakes made by DeSantis and then after the defeat note that he'd have won if he'd been enabled to run.

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            taiwan_girl
            wrote on 13 Nov 2022, 11:12 last edited by
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            @kluurs said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

            Does anyone think Trump would back off and shut down criticism of a Republican candidate for the Presidency that didn't have the "Trump" name? I think he'd criticize any mistakes made by DeSantis and then after the defeat note that he'd have won if he'd been enabled to run.

            This 👆

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              Mik
              wrote on 13 Nov 2022, 12:25 last edited by Mik
              #147

              Weird. I dreamed that I was working for Trump last night and he liked what I did so much that he had me set up a cocaine distribution network for him that isolated he and I from legal challenges.

              It could happen.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                George K
                wrote on 13 Nov 2022, 14:08 last edited by George K
                #148

                Right after the mid-terms.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • M Mik
                  13 Nov 2022, 12:25

                  Weird. I dreamed that I was working for Trump last night and he liked what I did so much that he had me set up a cocaine distribution network for him that isolated he and I from legal challenges.

                  It could happen.

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                  Catseye3
                  wrote on 13 Nov 2022, 19:03 last edited by
                  #149

                  @Mik said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                  I dreamed that I was working for Trump last night and he liked what I did so much that he had me set up a cocaine distribution network for him that isolated he and I from legal challenges.
                  It could happen.

                  The cocaine, okay, but working for Trump? Never.

                  Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                    Copper
                    wrote on 13 Nov 2022, 22:16 last edited by
                    #150

                    Whichever one can beat Ms. Clinton is OK with me.

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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on 14 Nov 2022, 17:58 last edited by jon-nyc
                      #151

                      Went from Trump +17 to DeSantis +11.

                      A 28pt swing.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                        Mik
                        wrote on 14 Nov 2022, 18:04 last edited by
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                        George Conway doesn't think DeSantis will run. he makes some good points.

                        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/george-conway-says-he-doesn-t-think-ron-desantis-will-run-for-president-because-there-s-no-upside-to-wading-into-a-mud-fest-to-end-all-mud-fests/ar-AA144LjI?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=ba01be622c5449ffba32fed76ac8da06

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          Axtremus
                          wrote on 14 Nov 2022, 18:54 last edited by
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                          It’s possible that Conway underestimates DeSantis’ ego.

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                            Horace
                            wrote on 14 Nov 2022, 18:55 last edited by
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                            It'll play perfectly well for DeSantis to take the high road throughout any of Trump's mud slinging. With the added benefit that even direct hits by Trump will be ignored.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                            • H Horace
                              14 Nov 2022, 18:55

                              It'll play perfectly well for DeSantis to take the high road throughout any of Trump's mud slinging. With the added benefit that even direct hits by Trump will be ignored.

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                              Doctor Phibes
                              wrote on 14 Nov 2022, 19:00 last edited by
                              #155

                              @Horace said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                              It'll play perfectly well for DeSantis to take the high road throughout any of Trump's mud slinging. With the added benefit that even direct hits by Trump will be ignored.

                              If I was deSantis, I'd definitely run. Trump is just going to dig himself in deeper and deeper with increasingly childish outbursts. He won the election for Biden - maybe he can repeat the achievement for DeSantis.

                              I was only joking

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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on 14 Nov 2022, 19:53 last edited by
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                                He'll run. As will many others.

                                I mean, you got a guy who barely eked out a victory against the most disliked woman in America, then lost elections in 2018, 2020, 2021, and 2022.

                                Even his candidates that won did horribly, relatively speaking. JD Vance won by 6 pts, while Governor DeWine won by 25pts on the same ticket. Portman won that same seat by 21pts in his last election.

                                I would think a lot of GOP potential candidates would feel obliged to run simply because they're tired of all the losing.

                                Only non-witches get due process.

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                                • J jon-nyc
                                  14 Nov 2022, 19:53

                                  He'll run. As will many others.

                                  I mean, you got a guy who barely eked out a victory against the most disliked woman in America, then lost elections in 2018, 2020, 2021, and 2022.

                                  Even his candidates that won did horribly, relatively speaking. JD Vance won by 6 pts, while Governor DeWine won by 25pts on the same ticket. Portman won that same seat by 21pts in his last election.

                                  I would think a lot of GOP potential candidates would feel obliged to run simply because they're tired of all the losing.

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                                  Renauda
                                  wrote on 14 Nov 2022, 22:21 last edited by Renauda
                                  #157

                                  @jon-nyc

                                  So are you telling us that the big orange Kahuna isn’t the winningest palooka he tries to make out he is to the world?

                                  Elbows up!

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                                  • R Renauda
                                    14 Nov 2022, 22:21

                                    @jon-nyc

                                    So are you telling us that the big orange Kahuna isn’t the winningest palooka he tries to make out he is to the world?

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                                    Doctor Phibes
                                    wrote on 14 Nov 2022, 22:40 last edited by
                                    #158

                                    I’m certainly tired of whinging

                                    I was only joking

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                                      taiwan_girl
                                      wrote on 15 Nov 2022, 01:26 last edited by
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                                      The Democrat Party is going to be encouraging President Trump to run. Best chance of victory for them if he is the 2024 runner.

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                                      • T taiwan_girl
                                        15 Nov 2022, 01:26

                                        The Democrat Party is going to be encouraging President Trump to run. Best chance of victory for them if he is the 2024 runner.

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                                        Horace
                                        wrote on 15 Nov 2022, 01:27 last edited by Horace
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                                        @taiwan_girl said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                                        The Democrat Party is going to be encouraging President Trump to run. Best chance of victory for them if he is the 2024 runner.

                                        They wanted him to run in 2016, and they were wrong. They want him to run again in 2024, and this time they'll be right.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                        • H Horace
                                          15 Nov 2022, 01:27

                                          @taiwan_girl said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                                          The Democrat Party is going to be encouraging President Trump to run. Best chance of victory for them if he is the 2024 runner.

                                          They wanted him to run in 2016, and they were wrong. They want him to run again in 2024, and this time they'll be right.

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                                          Copper
                                          wrote on 15 Nov 2022, 01:57 last edited by
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                                          @Horace said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                                          They want him to run again in 2020, and this time they'll be right.

                                          Don't forget that during Mr. Biden's nuclear war the cities will be targeted.

                                          And we all know that the cities are full of democrat voters.

                                          There won't be many Biden voters left after the buttons are pushed.

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