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  • MikM Mik

    I think you are right. But we have to face that eventually.

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    LuFins Dad
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    #142

    @Mik said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

    I think you are right. But we have to face that eventually.

    I don’t disagree, but Romney and McCain brought in 60,000,000 votes each. Donald brought in 74,000,000 in 2020 and it still wasn’t enough. Biden came in at 80,000,000. What’s the threshold for a Republican victory in a non-Trump Election? Can DeSantis top 80,000,000 if he needs to? 70,000,000? These are questions that do need to be asked.

    The Brad

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      #143

      I think eventually he can. But Trump needs to be backed off or drawn in to support. A bit late for the latter, but two years is a long time.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        #144

        What is it with Trump that attracts these people?

        I don’t understand why somebody who calls themself conservative wouldn’t vote for DeSantis but would vote for Trump.

        I was only joking

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          #145

          Does anyone think Trump would back off and shut down criticism of a Republican candidate for the Presidency that didn't have the "Trump" name? I think he'd criticize any mistakes made by DeSantis and then after the defeat note that he'd have won if he'd been enabled to run.

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          • kluursK kluurs

            Does anyone think Trump would back off and shut down criticism of a Republican candidate for the Presidency that didn't have the "Trump" name? I think he'd criticize any mistakes made by DeSantis and then after the defeat note that he'd have won if he'd been enabled to run.

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            #146

            @kluurs said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

            Does anyone think Trump would back off and shut down criticism of a Republican candidate for the Presidency that didn't have the "Trump" name? I think he'd criticize any mistakes made by DeSantis and then after the defeat note that he'd have won if he'd been enabled to run.

            This 👆

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            • MikM Offline
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              #147

              Weird. I dreamed that I was working for Trump last night and he liked what I did so much that he had me set up a cocaine distribution network for him that isolated he and I from legal challenges.

              It could happen.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                George K
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                #148

                Right after the mid-terms.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • MikM Mik

                  Weird. I dreamed that I was working for Trump last night and he liked what I did so much that he had me set up a cocaine distribution network for him that isolated he and I from legal challenges.

                  It could happen.

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                  #149

                  @Mik said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                  I dreamed that I was working for Trump last night and he liked what I did so much that he had me set up a cocaine distribution network for him that isolated he and I from legal challenges.
                  It could happen.

                  The cocaine, okay, but working for Trump? Never.

                  Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                  • CopperC Offline
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                    #150

                    Whichever one can beat Ms. Clinton is OK with me.

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                      #151

                      Went from Trump +17 to DeSantis +11.

                      A 28pt swing.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                        #152

                        George Conway doesn't think DeSantis will run. he makes some good points.

                        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/george-conway-says-he-doesn-t-think-ron-desantis-will-run-for-president-because-there-s-no-upside-to-wading-into-a-mud-fest-to-end-all-mud-fests/ar-AA144LjI?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=ba01be622c5449ffba32fed76ac8da06

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          It’s possible that Conway underestimates DeSantis’ ego.

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                            #154

                            It'll play perfectly well for DeSantis to take the high road throughout any of Trump's mud slinging. With the added benefit that even direct hits by Trump will be ignored.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                            • HoraceH Horace

                              It'll play perfectly well for DeSantis to take the high road throughout any of Trump's mud slinging. With the added benefit that even direct hits by Trump will be ignored.

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                              Doctor Phibes
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                              @Horace said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                              It'll play perfectly well for DeSantis to take the high road throughout any of Trump's mud slinging. With the added benefit that even direct hits by Trump will be ignored.

                              If I was deSantis, I'd definitely run. Trump is just going to dig himself in deeper and deeper with increasingly childish outbursts. He won the election for Biden - maybe he can repeat the achievement for DeSantis.

                              I was only joking

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                                He'll run. As will many others.

                                I mean, you got a guy who barely eked out a victory against the most disliked woman in America, then lost elections in 2018, 2020, 2021, and 2022.

                                Even his candidates that won did horribly, relatively speaking. JD Vance won by 6 pts, while Governor DeWine won by 25pts on the same ticket. Portman won that same seat by 21pts in his last election.

                                I would think a lot of GOP potential candidates would feel obliged to run simply because they're tired of all the losing.

                                Only non-witches get due process.

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                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                  He'll run. As will many others.

                                  I mean, you got a guy who barely eked out a victory against the most disliked woman in America, then lost elections in 2018, 2020, 2021, and 2022.

                                  Even his candidates that won did horribly, relatively speaking. JD Vance won by 6 pts, while Governor DeWine won by 25pts on the same ticket. Portman won that same seat by 21pts in his last election.

                                  I would think a lot of GOP potential candidates would feel obliged to run simply because they're tired of all the losing.

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                                  Renauda
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                                  #157

                                  @jon-nyc

                                  So are you telling us that the big orange Kahuna isn’t the winningest palooka he tries to make out he is to the world?

                                  Elbows up!

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                                  • RenaudaR Renauda

                                    @jon-nyc

                                    So are you telling us that the big orange Kahuna isn’t the winningest palooka he tries to make out he is to the world?

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                                    Doctor Phibes
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                                    #158

                                    I’m certainly tired of whinging

                                    I was only joking

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                                      The Democrat Party is going to be encouraging President Trump to run. Best chance of victory for them if he is the 2024 runner.

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                                      • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                        The Democrat Party is going to be encouraging President Trump to run. Best chance of victory for them if he is the 2024 runner.

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                                        #160

                                        @taiwan_girl said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                                        The Democrat Party is going to be encouraging President Trump to run. Best chance of victory for them if he is the 2024 runner.

                                        They wanted him to run in 2016, and they were wrong. They want him to run again in 2024, and this time they'll be right.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                        • HoraceH Horace

                                          @taiwan_girl said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                                          The Democrat Party is going to be encouraging President Trump to run. Best chance of victory for them if he is the 2024 runner.

                                          They wanted him to run in 2016, and they were wrong. They want him to run again in 2024, and this time they'll be right.

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                                          @Horace said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                                          They want him to run again in 2020, and this time they'll be right.

                                          Don't forget that during Mr. Biden's nuclear war the cities will be targeted.

                                          And we all know that the cities are full of democrat voters.

                                          There won't be many Biden voters left after the buttons are pushed.

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