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    https://9to5mac.com/2022/11/01/pantone-colors/

    Pantone colors have long been free to use in Photoshop, InDesign, and Illustrator – but that’s now changed. If you want to use the industry-standard colors in future, you’ll need to pay a $15/month subscription.

    Worse, if you have existing PSD files which use the color set, you may find that they have been replaced with black if you don’t buy the subscription …

    About Pantone colors

    Pantone colors are a standardized set of colors originally used to ensure that the colors of final printed products match the colors designers selected from swatch books. Print houses could purchase ink recipes for each color which were guaranteed to match the swatch books.

    The standard color set is still widely used in the digital age, ensuring that calibrated monitors are showing the exact color selected.

    Although the colors are an industry standard, the company is a private one, and it owns the intellectual property. Adobe reached a deal with Pantone to allow the colors to be used free of charge by Photoshop, InDesign, and Illustrator users.

    Pantone has now ended its deal with Adobe, which means anyone wanting access to the color references will need a separate subscription for a Pantone license. This is known as Pantone Connect, and costs $15/month, or $90/year.

    Kotaku reports a confused picture regarding the reason for the deal being ended. Pantone claimed that it was a joint decision with Adobe, while at the same time stating that Adobe hadn’t been updating the colors.

    The official reasons given haven’t made a great deal of sense. According to Pantone, the two companies started working together in the 1990s, but “since 2010, the Pantone color libraries within Adobe’s apps have not been updated.” This, apparently, means they’re “significantly out of date and missing hundreds of new Pantone Colors.” (Yes, the company seriously capitalizes “Color”.) This means that, “Pantone and Adobe have together decided to remove the outdated libraries and jointly focus on an improved in-app experience that better serves our users.”

    There’s more confusion about what happens to older PSD files using Pantone colors.

    Pantone still states in its out-of-date FAQ that, “This update will have minimal impact on a designer’s workflow. Existing Creative Cloud files and documents containing Pantone Color references will keep those color identities and information.” Yet today, people are reporting that their Photoshop is informing them, “This file has Pantone colors that have been removed and replaced with black due to changes in Pantone’s licensing with Adobe.”

    Others have reported that even attaching a Pantone license within Photoshop isn’t fixing the issue, colors still replaced by black, and workarounds sound like a pain.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Seems kind of serious for people who do graphics and design work

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      • 89th8 Offline
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        Oh it absolutely is. Pantone knows nearly every graphics client (company, individual, designer, etc) will pay the small cost to access the Pantone library since probably 99.9% of their work is linked to a very, very, very specific Pantone color.

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        • George KG George K

          https://9to5mac.com/2022/11/01/pantone-colors/

          Pantone colors have long been free to use in Photoshop, InDesign, and Illustrator – but that’s now changed. If you want to use the industry-standard colors in future, you’ll need to pay a $15/month subscription.

          Worse, if you have existing PSD files which use the color set, you may find that they have been replaced with black if you don’t buy the subscription …

          About Pantone colors

          Pantone colors are a standardized set of colors originally used to ensure that the colors of final printed products match the colors designers selected from swatch books. Print houses could purchase ink recipes for each color which were guaranteed to match the swatch books.

          The standard color set is still widely used in the digital age, ensuring that calibrated monitors are showing the exact color selected.

          Although the colors are an industry standard, the company is a private one, and it owns the intellectual property. Adobe reached a deal with Pantone to allow the colors to be used free of charge by Photoshop, InDesign, and Illustrator users.

          Pantone has now ended its deal with Adobe, which means anyone wanting access to the color references will need a separate subscription for a Pantone license. This is known as Pantone Connect, and costs $15/month, or $90/year.

          Kotaku reports a confused picture regarding the reason for the deal being ended. Pantone claimed that it was a joint decision with Adobe, while at the same time stating that Adobe hadn’t been updating the colors.

          The official reasons given haven’t made a great deal of sense. According to Pantone, the two companies started working together in the 1990s, but “since 2010, the Pantone color libraries within Adobe’s apps have not been updated.” This, apparently, means they’re “significantly out of date and missing hundreds of new Pantone Colors.” (Yes, the company seriously capitalizes “Color”.) This means that, “Pantone and Adobe have together decided to remove the outdated libraries and jointly focus on an improved in-app experience that better serves our users.”

          There’s more confusion about what happens to older PSD files using Pantone colors.

          Pantone still states in its out-of-date FAQ that, “This update will have minimal impact on a designer’s workflow. Existing Creative Cloud files and documents containing Pantone Color references will keep those color identities and information.” Yet today, people are reporting that their Photoshop is informing them, “This file has Pantone colors that have been removed and replaced with black due to changes in Pantone’s licensing with Adobe.”

          Others have reported that even attaching a Pantone license within Photoshop isn’t fixing the issue, colors still replaced by black, and workarounds sound like a pain.

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          @George-K said in Pantone charges:

          According to Pantone, the two companies started working together in the 1990s, but “since 2010, the Pantone color libraries within Adobe’s apps have not been updated.” This, apparently, means they’re “significantly out of date and missing hundreds of new Pantone Colors.”

          I can't wait to see the new colors, probably something like Equity Black or Privileged White. I heard the new Biden color is great, because if you forget what Pantone code it is, you can just end with "...anyway." And the new Kamala Brown is a perfect mix of Indian spices, Jamaican heat, Irish red, and just a touch of unwanted laughter.

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            @George-K said in Pantone charges:

            According to Pantone, the two companies started working together in the 1990s, but “since 2010, the Pantone color libraries within Adobe’s apps have not been updated.” This, apparently, means they’re “significantly out of date and missing hundreds of new Pantone Colors.”

            I can't wait to see the new colors, probably something like Equity Black or Privileged White. I heard the new Biden color is great, because if you forget what Pantone code it is, you can just end with "...anyway." And the new Kamala Brown is a perfect mix of Indian spices, Jamaican heat, Irish red, and just a touch of unwanted laughter.

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            @89th said in Pantone charges:

            Kamala Brown

            That's probably a knock-off from the knee-pad color, amirite?

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • George KG George K

              @89th said in Pantone charges:

              Kamala Brown

              That's probably a knock-off from the knee-pad color, amirite?

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              @George-K urrite

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