More whackadoodle stuff.
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LexisNexis is a database that archives a large number of U.S. and world newspapers. I used it to compute two timespans following each shooting: The first three days of news coverage, and then the first full week. I also broke out mentions of each representative’s name for The New York Times, Washington Post, New York Daily News, and USA Today, newspapers with the broadest reach, both geographically (USA Today) and politically (NYT, WaPo). Lexis doesn’t include Wall Street Journal archives and their archives for subscribers don’t go back to the Giffords incident (very annoying, WSJ) or I would have included their results, too. So here’s what that looks like.
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Allegations of media bias are a common play in the far right conspiracy theory playbook.
Education is extremely important.
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@Horace said in More whackadoodle stuff.:
Allegations of media bias are a common play in the far right conspiracy theory playbook.
Surely, it’s not so much the bias that’s the problem, but the preponderance of liberal mainstream media. Surely, nobody is delusional enough to complain that Fox is unbiased. The real problem is that there are so many more organizations on the other side.
Right?
I was only joking
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The Kavanaugh attack….
…. which never actually happened.
If Kavanaugh had had his skull crushed with a hammer then maybe the comparison would be valid.
In the event the dude never even got onto his property and ended up calling the cops on himself after his sister told him to.
Apple, meet orange.
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@Horace said in More whackadoodle stuff.:
Allegations of media bias are a common play in the far right conspiracy theory playbook.
Surely, it’s not so much the bias that’s the problem, but the preponderance of liberal mainstream media. Surely, nobody is delusional enough to complain that Fox is unbiased. The real problem is that there are so many more organizations on the other side.
Right?
@Doctor-Phibes said in More whackadoodle stuff.:
@Horace said in More whackadoodle stuff.:
Allegations of media bias are a common play in the far right conspiracy theory playbook.
Surely, it’s not so much the bias that’s the problem, but the preponderance of liberal mainstream media. Surely, nobody is delusional enough to complain that Fox is unbiased. The real problem is that there are so many more organizations on the other side.
Right?
That is correct.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in More whackadoodle stuff.:
@Horace said in More whackadoodle stuff.:
Allegations of media bias are a common play in the far right conspiracy theory playbook.
Surely, it’s not so much the bias that’s the problem, but the preponderance of liberal mainstream media. Surely, nobody is delusional enough to complain that Fox is unbiased. The real problem is that there are so many more organizations on the other side.
Right?
That is correct.
@Horace said in More whackadoodle stuff.:
@Doctor-Phibes said in More whackadoodle stuff.:
@Horace said in More whackadoodle stuff.:
Allegations of media bias are a common play in the far right conspiracy theory playbook.
Surely, it’s not so much the bias that’s the problem, but the preponderance of liberal mainstream media. Surely, nobody is delusional enough to complain that Fox is unbiased. The real problem is that there are so many more organizations on the other side.
Right?
That is correct.
So you’re totally happy with shit media as long as it trots out your side of the story
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@Horace said in More whackadoodle stuff.:
@Doctor-Phibes said in More whackadoodle stuff.:
@Horace said in More whackadoodle stuff.:
Allegations of media bias are a common play in the far right conspiracy theory playbook.
Surely, it’s not so much the bias that’s the problem, but the preponderance of liberal mainstream media. Surely, nobody is delusional enough to complain that Fox is unbiased. The real problem is that there are so many more organizations on the other side.
Right?
That is correct.
So you’re totally happy with shit media as long as it trots out your side of the story
@Doctor-Phibes said in More whackadoodle stuff.:
@Horace said in More whackadoodle stuff.:
@Doctor-Phibes said in More whackadoodle stuff.:
@Horace said in More whackadoodle stuff.:
Allegations of media bias are a common play in the far right conspiracy theory playbook.
Surely, it’s not so much the bias that’s the problem, but the preponderance of liberal mainstream media. Surely, nobody is delusional enough to complain that Fox is unbiased. The real problem is that there are so many more organizations on the other side.
Right?
That is correct.
So you’re totally happy with shit media as long as it trots out your side of the story
I don’t follow fox or CNN. I suppose it would be better if they were less biased. I’m more interested in following the gestalt, however it comes to be.
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@George-K said in More whackadoodle stuff.:
@LuFins-Dad said in More whackadoodle stuff.:
Okay, let’s compare with Scalise, then.
Again, somewhat apple to orange.
In the shooting of Giffords, 18 people were shot, 6 killed, including a federal judge and a 9 year old kid.
In the shooting of Scalise, 4 people shot, none killed.
Sadly, but in general, the bigger the shooting, the more headlines and news stories.
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@Horace said in More whackadoodle stuff.:
Allegations of media bias are a common play in the far right conspiracy theory playbook.
In a selective and tautological sense usually. It’s common to exclude conservative media despite it having gone “mainstream” decades ago.
"You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
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@Horace said in More whackadoodle stuff.:
Allegations of media bias are a common play in the far right conspiracy theory playbook.
In a selective and tautological sense usually. It’s common to exclude conservative media despite it having gone “mainstream” decades ago.
@jon-nyc said in More whackadoodle stuff.:
@Horace said in More whackadoodle stuff.:
Allegations of media bias are a common play in the far right conspiracy theory playbook.
In a selective and tautological sense usually. It’s common to exclude conservative media despite it having gone “mainstream” decades ago.
What's more common is to ignore the propensity of the messaging, throughout all media, (let's just call it all cultural messaging), and satisfy oneself that both sides are the same, by pointing to one example from the opposing tribe.
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@Horace said in More whackadoodle stuff.:
Allegations of media bias are a common play in the far right conspiracy theory playbook.
In a selective and tautological sense usually. It’s common to exclude conservative media despite it having gone “mainstream” decades ago.
@jon-nyc said in More whackadoodle stuff.:
@Horace said in More whackadoodle stuff.:
Allegations of media bias are a common play in the far right conspiracy theory playbook.
In a selective and tautological sense usually. It’s common to exclude conservative media despite it having gone “mainstream” decades ago.
I seem to remember being laughed at a while back for saying that Fox News was part of the MSM.
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@jon-nyc said in More whackadoodle stuff.:
@Horace said in More whackadoodle stuff.:
Allegations of media bias are a common play in the far right conspiracy theory playbook.
In a selective and tautological sense usually. It’s common to exclude conservative media despite it having gone “mainstream” decades ago.
I seem to remember being laughed at a while back for saying that Fox News was part of the MSM.
@Doctor-Phibes said in More whackadoodle stuff.:
@jon-nyc said in More whackadoodle stuff.:
@Horace said in More whackadoodle stuff.:
Allegations of media bias are a common play in the far right conspiracy theory playbook.
In a selective and tautological sense usually. It’s common to exclude conservative media despite it having gone “mainstream” decades ago.
I seem to remember being laughed at a while back for saying that Fox News was part of the MSM.
What's more common is to ignore the propensity of the messaging, throughout all media, (let's just call it all cultural messaging), and satisfy oneself that both sides are the same, by pointing to one example from the opposing tribe.
Education is extremely important.
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I am still having trouble figuring out how exactly a crazy guy with a hammer was able to gain access to to the house of the woman that is two heartbeats from the Presidency of the United States, and in reality is the 2nd most powerful elected official.
The guy couldn’t have gained access to my house, how the hell did he get in there?
The Brad
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I am still having trouble figuring out how exactly a crazy guy with a hammer was able to gain access to to the house of the woman that is two heartbeats from the Presidency of the United States, and in reality is the 2nd most powerful elected official.
The guy couldn’t have gained access to my house, how the hell did he get in there?
@LuFins-Dad said in More whackadoodle stuff.:
how exactly a crazy guy with a hammer was able to gain access to to the house
Mr. Pelosi simply opened the door.
No big deal.
The same way he opened the door for the police, before the hammer incident.
And then went back to standing near the felon to wrestle over the hammer.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in More whackadoodle stuff.:
@jon-nyc said in More whackadoodle stuff.:
@Horace said in More whackadoodle stuff.:
Allegations of media bias are a common play in the far right conspiracy theory playbook.
In a selective and tautological sense usually. It’s common to exclude conservative media despite it having gone “mainstream” decades ago.
I seem to remember being laughed at a while back for saying that Fox News was part of the MSM.
What's more common is to ignore the propensity of the messaging, throughout all media, (let's just call it all cultural messaging), and satisfy oneself that both sides are the same, by pointing to one example from the opposing tribe.
@Horace said in More whackadoodle stuff.:
@Doctor-Phibes said in More whackadoodle stuff.:
@jon-nyc said in More whackadoodle stuff.:
@Horace said in More whackadoodle stuff.:
Allegations of media bias are a common play in the far right conspiracy theory playbook.
In a selective and tautological sense usually. It’s common to exclude conservative media despite it having gone “mainstream” decades ago.
I seem to remember being laughed at a while back for saying that Fox News was part of the MSM.
What's more common is to ignore the propensity of the messaging, throughout all media, (let's just call it all cultural messaging), and satisfy oneself that both sides are the same, by pointing to one example from the opposing tribe.
I don’t see much difference between Fox and CNN. If we’re talking about media, the only difference is that there’s more mainstream liberal media. Fox is no more honest and has no more integrity than its liberal counterparts
I was only joking
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@jon-nyc said in More whackadoodle stuff.:
A hammer to a window wouldn’t get someone in your house? Do you have bars or something?
Our windows are elevated. The sill of the first-floor window is over 6ft high. You would need a ladder. Then the windows are double panes laminates with poly between both panes. Even if the glass shatters, it's not coming out. Even if it does, by the time the guy climbs through, our Border Collie has enjoyed a tasty snack.
Patio doors are triple-paned and have 4 layers of poly security film... A sledge might knock it out with enough strikes, but that carpenter's hammer the guy used is going to bounce off...
So yeah, the crazy guy with a hammer isn't getting into my house, and I'm not worth hundreds of millions of dollars, and my wife is not second in line for the throne, so to speak, with all of the security conditions that come along with that.
I can't imagine them not using polycarbonate windows and panels on all of the ground-level windows and doors. I also can't imagine that there isn't a security system connected to each of the windows and motion detectors throughout the house. Even if the video cameras weren't being monitored, a standard security alarm should have been going off somewhere.
I'm also surprised there were no dogs in the house.
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@jon-nyc said in More whackadoodle stuff.:
A hammer to a window wouldn’t get someone in your house? Do you have bars or something?
Our windows are elevated. The sill of the first-floor window is over 6ft high. You would need a ladder. Then the windows are double panes laminates with poly between both panes. Even if the glass shatters, it's not coming out. Even if it does, by the time the guy climbs through, our Border Collie has enjoyed a tasty snack.
Patio doors are triple-paned and have 4 layers of poly security film... A sledge might knock it out with enough strikes, but that carpenter's hammer the guy used is going to bounce off...
So yeah, the crazy guy with a hammer isn't getting into my house, and I'm not worth hundreds of millions of dollars, and my wife is not second in line for the throne, so to speak, with all of the security conditions that come along with that.
I can't imagine them not using polycarbonate windows and panels on all of the ground-level windows and doors. I also can't imagine that there isn't a security system connected to each of the windows and motion detectors throughout the house. Even if the video cameras weren't being monitored, a standard security alarm should have been going off somewhere.
I'm also surprised there were no dogs in the house.
@LuFins-Dad there was also some talk about the broken glass being on the outside of the house, not where you'd expect it - on the inside of a break in.
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@George-K said in More whackadoodle stuff.:
@LuFins-Dad said in More whackadoodle stuff.:
Okay, let’s compare with Scalise, then.
Again, somewhat apple to orange.
In the shooting of Giffords, 18 people were shot, 6 killed, including a federal judge and a 9 year old kid.
In the shooting of Scalise, 4 people shot, none killed.
Sadly, but in general, the bigger the shooting, the more headlines and news stories.
@taiwan_girl said in More whackadoodle stuff.:
@George-K said in More whackadoodle stuff.:
@LuFins-Dad said in More whackadoodle stuff.:
Okay, let’s compare with Scalise, then.
Again, somewhat apple to orange.
In the shooting of Giffords, 18 people were shot, 6 killed, including a federal judge and a 9 year old kid.
In the shooting of Scalise, 4 people shot, none killed.
Sadly, but in general, the bigger the shooting, the more headlines and news stories.
Forgot a couple of things.
- Handgun vs. Rifle
- D.C. vs.Arizona
