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  • R Rainman
    25 Jun 2020, 03:13

    @jon-nyc said in Broken Trees:

    I talked to a guy about removing another stump and he said ‘we can’t get the back hoe in here but maybe we can attach a winch to it from the truck and pull it out, but I’m not sure we can do that either’

    I said to him “when I was 14, my dad handed me a shovel and an axe and told me to get a stump out. It took all day but I did it”. He was surprised, like it was a method he’d never heard of.

    Yeah, been there. Several times when I was growing up, a storm would knock over a tree or two on our property. It was just a given, the Dad hands over tools to The Son, and The Son never even figures it's within any viable parameter of acceptable complaining, so you just did it. And your older sister (in my case) never did anything outside, nothing at all, ever. Never. She got away with everything. Outside hard work for me and my brother was like some sort of 11th commandment or something, and always landed on my Saturdays.

    Not sure why I'm even commenting. I bet most guys on this forum had the same or similar expectation when growing up. Cats and Brenda probably were not spared the physical labor. Taiwan Girl, hmmm, I'd be interested to know about her intimate relationship with tree stumps.

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    Improviso
    wrote on 25 Jun 2020, 09:36 last edited by
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    @Rainman said in Broken Trees:

    Outside hard work for me and my brother was like some sort of 11th commandment or something, and always landed on my Saturdays.

    Not sure why I'm even commenting. I bet most guys on this forum had the same or similar expectation when growing up.

    Damn... it was like I was reading MY story about growing up.

    We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
    Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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    • R Rainman
      25 Jun 2020, 03:13

      @jon-nyc said in Broken Trees:

      I talked to a guy about removing another stump and he said ‘we can’t get the back hoe in here but maybe we can attach a winch to it from the truck and pull it out, but I’m not sure we can do that either’

      I said to him “when I was 14, my dad handed me a shovel and an axe and told me to get a stump out. It took all day but I did it”. He was surprised, like it was a method he’d never heard of.

      Yeah, been there. Several times when I was growing up, a storm would knock over a tree or two on our property. It was just a given, the Dad hands over tools to The Son, and The Son never even figures it's within any viable parameter of acceptable complaining, so you just did it. And your older sister (in my case) never did anything outside, nothing at all, ever. Never. She got away with everything. Outside hard work for me and my brother was like some sort of 11th commandment or something, and always landed on my Saturdays.

      Not sure why I'm even commenting. I bet most guys on this forum had the same or similar expectation when growing up. Cats and Brenda probably were not spared the physical labor. Taiwan Girl, hmmm, I'd be interested to know about her intimate relationship with tree stumps.

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      brenda
      wrote on 25 Jun 2020, 15:55 last edited by
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      @Rainman

      In my family, the sons were the royalty, and the daughters were the maids and outdoor workers. Really, this happened in every family on my mother's side of the tree.

      My brother thought everything was owed to him, but I learned to work. That included school work, too.

      That's how I could buy my motorcycle and freedom during my teens. I wasn't home much during those years. I loved my little Honda.

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        Copper
        wrote on 25 Jun 2020, 15:59 last edited by
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        I have a brother and 4 sisters.

        The girls always get everything.

        Which is only fair, since boys are bad.

        I'm kneeling as I type this.

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        • B brenda
          25 Jun 2020, 15:55

          @Rainman

          In my family, the sons were the royalty, and the daughters were the maids and outdoor workers. Really, this happened in every family on my mother's side of the tree.

          My brother thought everything was owed to him, but I learned to work. That included school work, too.

          That's how I could buy my motorcycle and freedom during my teens. I wasn't home much during those years. I loved my little Honda.

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          Mik
          wrote on 25 Jun 2020, 16:52 last edited by Mik
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          @brenda said in Broken Trees:

          @Rainman

          In my family, the sons were the royalty, and the daughters were the maids and outdoor workers. Really, this happened in every family on my mother's side of the tree.

          My brother thought everything was owed to him, but I learned to work. That included school work, too.

          That's how I could buy my motorcycle and freedom during my teens. I wasn't home much during those years. I loved my little Honda.

          I bet you were popular with the guys!

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          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on 25 Jun 2020, 19:38 last edited by
            #54

            She still is!

            Only non-witches get due process.

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              Larry
              wrote on 25 Jun 2020, 20:31 last edited by
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              It's her cute little froggie.....

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                Copper
                wrote on 1 Jul 2020, 17:51 last edited by Copper 7 Jan 2020, 17:52
                #56

                Tree update

                • Last week I scheduled some mulch (10 yards) and Spreading Yew bushes to be delivered
                • Then a big tree fell down on the spot where the mulch was to be installed
                • So I scheduled a tree guy and postponed the mulch
                • After a couple cancellations, the tree guy finally showed yesterday a couple hours late
                • He got the tree down and destroyed the lawn between the tree and his truck, about 1500 square feet
                • To insure the lawn was destroyed he blew a hydraulic line and covered the whole area with hydraulic fluid
                • This fluid will kill everything and prevent anything from growing there - ever
                • So the topsoil has to be removed and replaced and the lawn replaced
                • The tree guy thinks he will be able to repair the tractor tomorrow and get the stupid thing out of my yard
                • Just now I rescheduled the mulch/Yew guy and asked him to give me an estimate to remove the poison soil and replace the lawn
                • If the tree guy comes to get his tractor tomorrow we can talk about paying for the lawn repair
                • I hate this stuff
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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on 1 Jul 2020, 18:00 last edited by
                  #57

                  Oh jeez. That sucks.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                    Copper
                    wrote on 1 Jul 2020, 18:03 last edited by
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                      Jolly
                      wrote on 1 Jul 2020, 18:05 last edited by
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                      Don't know about hydraulic oil...crude oil will eventually break down, given time...

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        Horace
                        wrote on 1 Jul 2020, 18:06 last edited by
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                        nightmare. Sorry to hear about all that.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                        • M Mik
                          25 Jun 2020, 16:52

                          @brenda said in Broken Trees:

                          @Rainman

                          In my family, the sons were the royalty, and the daughters were the maids and outdoor workers. Really, this happened in every family on my mother's side of the tree.

                          My brother thought everything was owed to him, but I learned to work. That included school work, too.

                          That's how I could buy my motorcycle and freedom during my teens. I wasn't home much during those years. I loved my little Honda.

                          I bet you were popular with the guys!

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                          brenda
                          wrote on 1 Jul 2020, 18:11 last edited by
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                          @Mik said in Broken Trees:

                          @brenda said in Broken Trees:

                          @Rainman

                          In my family, the sons were the royalty, and the daughters were the maids and outdoor workers. Really, this happened in every family on my mother's side of the tree.

                          My brother thought everything was owed to him, but I learned to work. That included school work, too.

                          That's how I could buy my motorcycle and freedom during my teens. I wasn't home much during those years. I loved my little Honda.

                          I bet you were popular with the guys!

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                          How did you know my Honda was blue?

                          It was!

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                          • H Horace
                            1 Jul 2020, 18:06

                            nightmare. Sorry to hear about all that.

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                            Catseye3
                            wrote on 1 Jul 2020, 18:12 last edited by
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                            @Horace Me, too.

                            Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                            • C Copper
                              1 Jul 2020, 17:51

                              Tree update

                              • Last week I scheduled some mulch (10 yards) and Spreading Yew bushes to be delivered
                              • Then a big tree fell down on the spot where the mulch was to be installed
                              • So I scheduled a tree guy and postponed the mulch
                              • After a couple cancellations, the tree guy finally showed yesterday a couple hours late
                              • He got the tree down and destroyed the lawn between the tree and his truck, about 1500 square feet
                              • To insure the lawn was destroyed he blew a hydraulic line and covered the whole area with hydraulic fluid
                              • This fluid will kill everything and prevent anything from growing there - ever
                              • So the topsoil has to be removed and replaced and the lawn replaced
                              • The tree guy thinks he will be able to repair the tractor tomorrow and get the stupid thing out of my yard
                              • Just now I rescheduled the mulch/Yew guy and asked him to give me an estimate to remove the poison soil and replace the lawn
                              • If the tree guy comes to get his tractor tomorrow we can talk about paying for the lawn repair
                              • I hate this stuff
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                              brenda
                              wrote on 1 Jul 2020, 18:14 last edited by
                              #63

                              @Copper

                              What a mess, Copper. Yes, I hate that kind of stuff, too, but you've had more than your fair share of late.

                              Make them pay! And make them clean it up to your satisfaction, too.

                              It's okay to say holy cow. You've earned the right to do so.

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                                Rainman
                                wrote on 1 Jul 2020, 21:01 last edited by
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                                Sorry to hear about this, Copper. I suppose we've all been in the "OK, I can't imagine anything else going wrong" and then, surprise!!

                                Curious if any insurance kicks in from anywhere? It seems you are concerned the tractor guy might disappear, or drag his heels.

                                Wait. Why don't I wait until this mess is over for you, then you can fill us in.

                                I would suggest a Jolly.

                                Watch him work, while you have some big AK-15 in your hands, rocking gently in a rocking chair. No talking.

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                                  Mik
                                  wrote on 1 Jul 2020, 21:45 last edited by
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                                  I was going to post about how moving my daughter sucks. Now I won’t. It seems trivial.

                                  Good luck, Copper. That is indeed a nightmare.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on 1 Jul 2020, 22:01 last edited by
                                    #66

                                    Wow. Just wow, Copper.

                                    I wonder if the contractor has any legal liability for the damage to your property.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      Copper
                                      wrote on 7 Jul 2020, 16:58 last edited by Copper 7 Jul 2020, 17:00
                                      #67
                                      • 16 days ago tree fell
                                      • 14 days ago the tree guy said he'd be here next day
                                      • 8 days ago he showed up late and started work
                                      • 8 days ago the tractor broke
                                      • Today he finished the work and the tractor is gone
                                      • I paid him half, he said he would remove the spilled fluid and repair the damaged lawn
                                      • Before he does that I am having a different landscape guy look at the problem on Thursday

                                      So the tree guy acknowledges the problem and wants to fix it. This is not the time of year to plant fescue.

                                      I am happy that the tractor is gone.

                                      And I eagled the 18th hole today.

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                                        Mik
                                        wrote on 7 Jul 2020, 18:27 last edited by
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                                        Good job! Sounds like it is turning out as well as can be expected, given the disastrous circumstances.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                          jon-nyc
                                          wrote on 7 Jul 2020, 19:03 last edited by
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                                          I was thinking of this when I told my neighbors tree guy that I didn't want anything but handheld tools on my property.

                                          The truck and chipper stayed at the street and they brought chainsaws and a wheelbarrow up to where the tree was.

                                          For me the timeline was:

                                          Sunday night 8pm, tree fell.
                                          Monday 1pm, guys came.
                                          Monday 2:30pm. All gone.

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

                                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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