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  • RainmanR Rainman

    @jon-nyc said in Broken Trees:

    I talked to a guy about removing another stump and he said ‘we can’t get the back hoe in here but maybe we can attach a winch to it from the truck and pull it out, but I’m not sure we can do that either’

    I said to him “when I was 14, my dad handed me a shovel and an axe and told me to get a stump out. It took all day but I did it”. He was surprised, like it was a method he’d never heard of.

    Yeah, been there. Several times when I was growing up, a storm would knock over a tree or two on our property. It was just a given, the Dad hands over tools to The Son, and The Son never even figures it's within any viable parameter of acceptable complaining, so you just did it. And your older sister (in my case) never did anything outside, nothing at all, ever. Never. She got away with everything. Outside hard work for me and my brother was like some sort of 11th commandment or something, and always landed on my Saturdays.

    Not sure why I'm even commenting. I bet most guys on this forum had the same or similar expectation when growing up. Cats and Brenda probably were not spared the physical labor. Taiwan Girl, hmmm, I'd be interested to know about her intimate relationship with tree stumps.

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    @Rainman said in Broken Trees:

    Outside hard work for me and my brother was like some sort of 11th commandment or something, and always landed on my Saturdays.

    Not sure why I'm even commenting. I bet most guys on this forum had the same or similar expectation when growing up.

    Damn... it was like I was reading MY story about growing up.

    We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
    Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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    • RainmanR Rainman

      @jon-nyc said in Broken Trees:

      I talked to a guy about removing another stump and he said ‘we can’t get the back hoe in here but maybe we can attach a winch to it from the truck and pull it out, but I’m not sure we can do that either’

      I said to him “when I was 14, my dad handed me a shovel and an axe and told me to get a stump out. It took all day but I did it”. He was surprised, like it was a method he’d never heard of.

      Yeah, been there. Several times when I was growing up, a storm would knock over a tree or two on our property. It was just a given, the Dad hands over tools to The Son, and The Son never even figures it's within any viable parameter of acceptable complaining, so you just did it. And your older sister (in my case) never did anything outside, nothing at all, ever. Never. She got away with everything. Outside hard work for me and my brother was like some sort of 11th commandment or something, and always landed on my Saturdays.

      Not sure why I'm even commenting. I bet most guys on this forum had the same or similar expectation when growing up. Cats and Brenda probably were not spared the physical labor. Taiwan Girl, hmmm, I'd be interested to know about her intimate relationship with tree stumps.

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      brenda
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      #51

      @Rainman

      In my family, the sons were the royalty, and the daughters were the maids and outdoor workers. Really, this happened in every family on my mother's side of the tree.

      My brother thought everything was owed to him, but I learned to work. That included school work, too.

      That's how I could buy my motorcycle and freedom during my teens. I wasn't home much during those years. I loved my little Honda.

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        Copper
        wrote on last edited by
        #52

        I have a brother and 4 sisters.

        The girls always get everything.

        Which is only fair, since boys are bad.

        I'm kneeling as I type this.

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        • brendaB brenda

          @Rainman

          In my family, the sons were the royalty, and the daughters were the maids and outdoor workers. Really, this happened in every family on my mother's side of the tree.

          My brother thought everything was owed to him, but I learned to work. That included school work, too.

          That's how I could buy my motorcycle and freedom during my teens. I wasn't home much during those years. I loved my little Honda.

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          #53

          @brenda said in Broken Trees:

          @Rainman

          In my family, the sons were the royalty, and the daughters were the maids and outdoor workers. Really, this happened in every family on my mother's side of the tree.

          My brother thought everything was owed to him, but I learned to work. That included school work, too.

          That's how I could buy my motorcycle and freedom during my teens. I wasn't home much during those years. I loved my little Honda.

          I bet you were popular with the guys!

          alt text

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            jon-nyc
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            #54

            She still is!

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              Larry
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              It's her cute little froggie.....

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                Copper
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                #56

                Tree update

                • Last week I scheduled some mulch (10 yards) and Spreading Yew bushes to be delivered
                • Then a big tree fell down on the spot where the mulch was to be installed
                • So I scheduled a tree guy and postponed the mulch
                • After a couple cancellations, the tree guy finally showed yesterday a couple hours late
                • He got the tree down and destroyed the lawn between the tree and his truck, about 1500 square feet
                • To insure the lawn was destroyed he blew a hydraulic line and covered the whole area with hydraulic fluid
                • This fluid will kill everything and prevent anything from growing there - ever
                • So the topsoil has to be removed and replaced and the lawn replaced
                • The tree guy thinks he will be able to repair the tractor tomorrow and get the stupid thing out of my yard
                • Just now I rescheduled the mulch/Yew guy and asked him to give me an estimate to remove the poison soil and replace the lawn
                • If the tree guy comes to get his tractor tomorrow we can talk about paying for the lawn repair
                • I hate this stuff
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                  jon-nyc
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                  #57

                  Oh jeez. That sucks.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    Copper
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                    TreeTractor.JPG

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                      Don't know about hydraulic oil...crude oil will eventually break down, given time...

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        Horace
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                        #60

                        nightmare. Sorry to hear about all that.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                        • MikM Mik

                          @brenda said in Broken Trees:

                          @Rainman

                          In my family, the sons were the royalty, and the daughters were the maids and outdoor workers. Really, this happened in every family on my mother's side of the tree.

                          My brother thought everything was owed to him, but I learned to work. That included school work, too.

                          That's how I could buy my motorcycle and freedom during my teens. I wasn't home much during those years. I loved my little Honda.

                          I bet you were popular with the guys!

                          alt text

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                          #61

                          @Mik said in Broken Trees:

                          @brenda said in Broken Trees:

                          @Rainman

                          In my family, the sons were the royalty, and the daughters were the maids and outdoor workers. Really, this happened in every family on my mother's side of the tree.

                          My brother thought everything was owed to him, but I learned to work. That included school work, too.

                          That's how I could buy my motorcycle and freedom during my teens. I wasn't home much during those years. I loved my little Honda.

                          I bet you were popular with the guys!

                          alt text

                          How did you know my Honda was blue?

                          It was!

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                          • HoraceH Horace

                            nightmare. Sorry to hear about all that.

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                            @Horace Me, too.

                            Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                            • CopperC Copper

                              Tree update

                              • Last week I scheduled some mulch (10 yards) and Spreading Yew bushes to be delivered
                              • Then a big tree fell down on the spot where the mulch was to be installed
                              • So I scheduled a tree guy and postponed the mulch
                              • After a couple cancellations, the tree guy finally showed yesterday a couple hours late
                              • He got the tree down and destroyed the lawn between the tree and his truck, about 1500 square feet
                              • To insure the lawn was destroyed he blew a hydraulic line and covered the whole area with hydraulic fluid
                              • This fluid will kill everything and prevent anything from growing there - ever
                              • So the topsoil has to be removed and replaced and the lawn replaced
                              • The tree guy thinks he will be able to repair the tractor tomorrow and get the stupid thing out of my yard
                              • Just now I rescheduled the mulch/Yew guy and asked him to give me an estimate to remove the poison soil and replace the lawn
                              • If the tree guy comes to get his tractor tomorrow we can talk about paying for the lawn repair
                              • I hate this stuff
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                              brenda
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #63

                              @Copper

                              What a mess, Copper. Yes, I hate that kind of stuff, too, but you've had more than your fair share of late.

                              Make them pay! And make them clean it up to your satisfaction, too.

                              It's okay to say holy cow. You've earned the right to do so.

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                                Rainman
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #64

                                Sorry to hear about this, Copper. I suppose we've all been in the "OK, I can't imagine anything else going wrong" and then, surprise!!

                                Curious if any insurance kicks in from anywhere? It seems you are concerned the tractor guy might disappear, or drag his heels.

                                Wait. Why don't I wait until this mess is over for you, then you can fill us in.

                                I would suggest a Jolly.

                                Watch him work, while you have some big AK-15 in your hands, rocking gently in a rocking chair. No talking.

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                                • MikM Offline
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                                  Mik
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #65

                                  I was going to post about how moving my daughter sucks. Now I won’t. It seems trivial.

                                  Good luck, Copper. That is indeed a nightmare.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #66

                                    Wow. Just wow, Copper.

                                    I wonder if the contractor has any legal liability for the damage to your property.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • CopperC Offline
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                                      Copper
                                      wrote on last edited by Copper
                                      #67
                                      • 16 days ago tree fell
                                      • 14 days ago the tree guy said he'd be here next day
                                      • 8 days ago he showed up late and started work
                                      • 8 days ago the tractor broke
                                      • Today he finished the work and the tractor is gone
                                      • I paid him half, he said he would remove the spilled fluid and repair the damaged lawn
                                      • Before he does that I am having a different landscape guy look at the problem on Thursday

                                      So the tree guy acknowledges the problem and wants to fix it. This is not the time of year to plant fescue.

                                      I am happy that the tractor is gone.

                                      And I eagled the 18th hole today.

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                                        Mik
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #68

                                        Good job! Sounds like it is turning out as well as can be expected, given the disastrous circumstances.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        • jon-nycJ Online
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                                          jon-nyc
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                                          #69

                                          I was thinking of this when I told my neighbors tree guy that I didn't want anything but handheld tools on my property.

                                          The truck and chipper stayed at the street and they brought chainsaws and a wheelbarrow up to where the tree was.

                                          For me the timeline was:

                                          Sunday night 8pm, tree fell.
                                          Monday 1pm, guys came.
                                          Monday 2:30pm. All gone.

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

                                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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