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    George K
    wrote on 18 Oct 2022, 11:29 last edited by
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    In Defense of “Bad” Activism

    The stunt was the latest in a series, and apparently “climate protesters across Europe have for months been gluing themselves to the frames of famous paintings.” The Just Stop Oil activists asked onlookers which was more valuable, “art” or “life,” and gave a speech about the cost of living crisis and the destructive effects of fossil fuel use. For context, the U.K. government has recently lifted its ban on fracking and the Conservative climate minister has justified awarding more than 100 licenses for North Sea drilling, saying that fracking and oil drilling are “good for the environment.” (This madness didn’t, of course, get nearly as much attention as the action of the activists.)

    Making fun of the activists is the easiest response in the world. I think their choice of tactics didn’t really make much sense. It brings media coverage, sure, but mostly of the “look how silly these activists are” variety, which is not what you’re aiming for. Does it build public support for the movement to end fossil fuel use? Doubtful.

    And yet, it’s also important to understand where these young people are coming from. I’d note in their defense that people in their generation are desperate and anxious, because they see their future being stolen from them. They see the climate crisis getting worse, and they are ruled over by an unelected Prime Minister who believes in unfettered free market capitalism. In recent years, the efforts of young left activists in the Labour Party to introduce transformative progressive leadership were undemocratically thwarted by centrists within the party. These climate activists are coming from a place of extreme frustration with the burdens that they know they are going to face in the coming decades. Futile acts like this are the result of a sense of powerlessness.

    Some activism is conducted by savvy strategic thinkers who have carefully weighed up the anticipated effect of their actions on public opinion in pursuit of a clear policy goal. But sometimes activism is a cry of anger by those who do not know what else to do except to somehow “throw their body on the gears.” The London activists weren’t the first to deface paintings in the service of a noble cause. The Suffragettes did the same thing. In 1914, Mary Richardson of the Women’s Social and Political Union (WSPU) hacked up a Velázquez painting in the National Gallery using a meat cleaver. She was protesting against the jailing of WSPU founder Emmeline Pankhurst.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Horace
      wrote on 18 Oct 2022, 11:47 last edited by
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      I spend an unreasonable amount of time listening to and reading leftists communicating with each other. I would characterize all of it as emotional people talking about their emotions, emotionally, in an effort to imagine a world in which all those emotions, which have largely been a source of pain for them through their lives (that is the purpose of emotions, at first approximation), are what makes them special, and better than others.

      Education is extremely important.

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        George K
        wrote on 20 Oct 2022, 17:14 last edited by
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        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          20 Oct 2022, 17:14

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          Renauda
          wrote on 20 Oct 2022, 19:39 last edited by
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          @George-K

          I think the best way to deal with these clowns is leave them glued to floor and a surround them with a soundproof glass container around them.

          Elbows up!

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            20 Oct 2022, 19:39

            @George-K

            I think the best way to deal with these clowns is leave them glued to floor and a surround them with a soundproof glass container around them.

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            George K
            wrote on 20 Oct 2022, 19:41 last edited by
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            @Renauda yes.

            But at least get the cars out first.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • G George K
              20 Oct 2022, 19:41

              @Renauda yes.

              But at least get the cars out first.

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              Renauda
              wrote on 20 Oct 2022, 20:52 last edited by
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              @George-K

              Yes, of course.

              Elbows up!

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                George K
                wrote on 22 Oct 2022, 12:02 last edited by
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                IMG_7066.jpg.jpg

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  George K
                  wrote on 23 Oct 2022, 21:32 last edited by
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                  Monet and Mashed Spuds

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    Copper
                    wrote on 23 Oct 2022, 22:39 last edited by
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                    You break it, you buy it.

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                      George K
                      wrote on 29 Oct 2022, 11:47 last edited by
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                      Screenshot 2022-10-29 at 6.31.04 AM copy.jpg

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on 2 Dec 2022, 05:23 last edited by
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                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                        -Cormac McCarthy

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                          89th
                          wrote on 2 Dec 2022, 12:28 last edited by
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                          The world needs a few more Larrys in this case.

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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on 2 Dec 2022, 12:32 last edited by
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                            I thought this guy was striking just the right note - moving them firmly but not violently.

                            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                            -Cormac McCarthy

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                            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc
                              2 Dec 2022, 12:32

                              I thought this guy was striking just the right note - moving them firmly but not violently.

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                              89th
                              wrote on 2 Dec 2022, 12:33 last edited by
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                              @jon-nyc Indeed. And luckily, most of those protesters are pacifists so the odds of them fighting back are slim.

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                                George K
                                wrote on 2 Dec 2022, 12:57 last edited by
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                                Saw that a couple of days ago and though, "If you're so dedicated to your cause, why don't you just get up and move back to your previous spot while your friends are being moved?"

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc
                                  2 Dec 2022, 12:32

                                  I thought this guy was striking just the right note - moving them firmly but not violently.

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                                  Horace
                                  wrote on 2 Dec 2022, 13:18 last edited by
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                                  @jon-nyc said in Tomato Soup on $84 million Van Gogh painting:

                                  I thought this guy was striking just the right note - moving them firmly but not violently.

                                  Fat people have no moral authority to do that.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                    Jolly
                                    wrote on 2 Dec 2022, 13:23 last edited by
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                                    Shucks, run over them. The survivors will move.

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      Mik
                                      wrote on 2 Dec 2022, 14:48 last edited by
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                                      Looked like he was going to take a whiz on them. Effective, but nonviolent.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        2 Dec 2022, 12:57

                                        Saw that a couple of days ago and though, "If you're so dedicated to your cause, why don't you just get up and move back to your previous spot while your friends are being moved?"

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                                        Renauda
                                        wrote on 2 Dec 2022, 16:34 last edited by
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                                        @George-K

                                        Because they were scared. At the top of the clip he yelled - “le premier qui bouge, je l'encule"

                                        I let you put that to the Google translator. 😁

                                        Elbows up!

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                                          2 Dec 2022, 16:34

                                          @George-K

                                          Because they were scared. At the top of the clip he yelled - “le premier qui bouge, je l'encule"

                                          I let you put that to the Google translator. 😁

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                                          George K
                                          wrote on 2 Dec 2022, 17:49 last edited by
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                                          @Renauda said in Tomato Soup on $84 million Van Gogh painting:

                                          @George-K

                                          Because they were scared. At the top of the clip he yelled - “le premier qui bouge, je l'encule"

                                          I let you put that to the Google translator. 😁

                                          All righty then...

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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