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  • MikM Away
    MikM Away
    Mik
    wrote on last edited by Mik
    #1

    Interesting article, but it sounds rather like songs that have been sung before.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/treasury-secretary-janet-yellen-says-u-s-economy-has-failed-to-live-up-to-the-nation-s-promise-of-equal-opportunity-for-all/ar-AA12CECO?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=366af961d0cd4346841e111bd9e067fa

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • MikM Mik

      Interesting article, but it sounds rather like songs that have been sung before.

      https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/treasury-secretary-janet-yellen-says-u-s-economy-has-failed-to-live-up-to-the-nation-s-promise-of-equal-opportunity-for-all/ar-AA12CECO?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=366af961d0cd4346841e111bd9e067fa

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      LuFins Dad
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      #2

      @Mik said in SecTreas says economy not meeting equal opportunity:

      Interesting article, but it sounds rather like songs that have been sung before.

      https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/treasury-secretary-janet-yellen-says-u-s-economy-has-failed-to-live-up-to-the-nation-s-promise-of-equal-opportunity-for-all/ar-AA12CECO?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=366af961d0cd4346841e111bd9e067fa

      I didn’t find it interesting at all.

      First, we’re still running on incorrect and inappropriate definitions of what poverty means.

      Second, the arbitrary line they set for poverty is ridiculous. They point to the child tax credit lifted 30% of families out of poverty. Do you really think a 2 children family going from $23,500 to $24,700 really experienced a substantial improvement in living conditions?

      Third, the obstacles are not racial, they are primarily economic. It is incredibly difficult to dig yourself out. By focusing on perceived racial disparities, you won’t solve the problem.

      The Brad

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      • MikM Away
        MikM Away
        Mik
        wrote on last edited by Mik
        #3

        I'd like to see trade school/apprenticeship grants similar to college grants. You want opportunity, you have to support it in a directed way that helps people lift themselves.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • MikM Mik

          I'd like to see trade school/apprenticeship grants similar to college grants. You want opportunity, you have to support it in a directed way that helps people lift themselves.

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          LuFins Dad
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          @Mik said in SecTreas says economy not meeting equal opportunity:

          I'd like to see trade school/apprenticeship grants similar to college grants. You want opportunity, you have to support it in a directed way that helps people lift themselves.

          They already do. Pell Grants (typically 5-6k) can be used at Trade and Technical schools that typically cost $4K a year.

          Want to kill 2 birds with 1 stone? RESTRICT Pell grants to only be used at trade schools or Community Colleges. Once you have successfully completed 2 years you can apply them to a 4-Year School.

          The Brad

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          • CopperC Offline
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            Copper
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            #5

            Have government policy that encourages families rather than hate them.

            Problem solved.

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            • CopperC Copper

              Have government policy that encourages families rather than hate them.

              Problem solved.

              AxtremusA Away
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              Axtremus
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              #6

              @Copper said in SecTreas says economy not meeting equal opportunity:

              Have government policy that encourages families rather than hate them.

              Name one government, anywhere in the world and any time in recorded history, that encouraged families.

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              • AxtremusA Axtremus

                @Copper said in SecTreas says economy not meeting equal opportunity:

                Have government policy that encourages families rather than hate them.

                Name one government, anywhere in the world and any time in recorded history, that encouraged families.

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                Copper
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                #7

                @Axtremus said in SecTreas says economy not meeting equal opportunity:

                @Copper said in SecTreas says economy not meeting equal opportunity:

                Have government policy that encourages families rather than hate them.

                Name one government, anywhere in the world and any time in recorded history, that encouraged families.

                The United States

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                • CopperC Copper

                  @Axtremus said in SecTreas says economy not meeting equal opportunity:

                  @Copper said in SecTreas says economy not meeting equal opportunity:

                  Have government policy that encourages families rather than hate them.

                  Name one government, anywhere in the world and any time in recorded history, that encouraged families.

                  The United States

                  AxtremusA Away
                  AxtremusA Away
                  Axtremus
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #8

                  @Copper said in SecTreas says economy not meeting equal opportunity:

                  @Axtremus said in SecTreas says economy not meeting equal opportunity:

                  @Copper said in SecTreas says economy not meeting equal opportunity:

                  Have government policy that encourages families rather than hate them.

                  Name one government, anywhere in the world and any time in recorded history, that encouraged families.

                  The United States

                  Are all problems solved in the United States?

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                  • MikM Away
                    MikM Away
                    Mik
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #9

                    That's not what you asked.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • AxtremusA Away
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                      Axtremus
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                      #10

                      @Mik said in SecTreas says economy not meeting equal opportunity:

                      That's not what you asked.

                      That what’s claimed, see five posts up.

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                      • AxtremusA Axtremus

                        @Mik said in SecTreas says economy not meeting equal opportunity:

                        That's not what you asked.

                        That what’s claimed, see five posts up.

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                        LuFins Dad
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                        @Axtremus said in SecTreas says economy not meeting equal opportunity:

                        @Mik said in SecTreas says economy not meeting equal opportunity:

                        That's not what you asked.

                        That what’s claimed, see five posts up.

                        No, that’s one problem solved. He doesn’t make the claim all problems are solved. Just that one, though it would solve quite a few others, too.

                        The Brad

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                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                          @Axtremus said in SecTreas says economy not meeting equal opportunity:

                          @Mik said in SecTreas says economy not meeting equal opportunity:

                          That's not what you asked.

                          That what’s claimed, see five posts up.

                          No, that’s one problem solved. He doesn’t make the claim all problems are solved. Just that one, though it would solve quite a few others, too.

                          AxtremusA Away
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                          Axtremus
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                          @LuFins-Dad said in SecTreas says economy not meeting equal opportunity:

                          @Axtremus said in SecTreas says economy not meeting equal opportunity:

                          @Mik said in SecTreas says economy not meeting equal opportunity:

                          That's not what you asked.

                          That what’s claimed, see five posts up.

                          No, that’s one problem solved. He doesn’t make the claim all problems are solved. Just that one, though it would solve quite a few others, too.

                          OK, is that one problem solved?

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                          • AxtremusA Axtremus

                            @Copper said in SecTreas says economy not meeting equal opportunity:

                            Have government policy that encourages families rather than hate them.

                            Name one government, anywhere in the world and any time in recorded history, that encouraged families.

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                            LuFins Dad
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #13

                            @Axtremus said in SecTreas says economy not meeting equal opportunity:

                            @Copper said in SecTreas says economy not meeting equal opportunity:

                            Have government policy that encourages families rather than hate them.

                            Name one government, anywhere in the world and any time in recorded history, that encouraged families.

                            Florida is one. Virginia is trying. I’d say the US right ip to the point that some damn blithering idiots started believing it takes a village to raise a child.

                            The Brad

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                            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                              @Axtremus said in SecTreas says economy not meeting equal opportunity:

                              @Copper said in SecTreas says economy not meeting equal opportunity:

                              Have government policy that encourages families rather than hate them.

                              Name one government, anywhere in the world and any time in recorded history, that encouraged families.

                              Florida is one. Virginia is trying. I’d say the US right ip to the point that some damn blithering idiots started believing it takes a village to raise a child.

                              AxtremusA Away
                              AxtremusA Away
                              Axtremus
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #14

                              @LuFins-Dad said in SecTreas says economy not meeting equal opportunity:

                              @Axtremus said in SecTreas says economy not meeting equal opportunity:

                              @Copper said in SecTreas says economy not meeting equal opportunity:

                              Have government policy that encourages families rather than hate them.

                              Name one government, anywhere in the world and any time in recorded history, that encouraged families.

                              Florida is one. Virginia is trying. I’d say the US right ip to the point that some damn blithering idiots started believing it takes a village to raise a child.

                              Is the problem solved in Florida?

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                              • LuFins DadL Offline
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                                LuFins Dad
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                                Yes. Yes it is.

                                Next time we have a forum get together, remind me to bring some of Finley’s forks and spoons so Ax doesn’t accidentally hurt himself at dinner.

                                The Brad

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                                • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                  @Copper said in SecTreas says economy not meeting equal opportunity:

                                  @Axtremus said in SecTreas says economy not meeting equal opportunity:

                                  @Copper said in SecTreas says economy not meeting equal opportunity:

                                  Have government policy that encourages families rather than hate them.

                                  Name one government, anywhere in the world and any time in recorded history, that encouraged families.

                                  The United States

                                  Are all problems solved in the United States?

                                  CopperC Offline
                                  CopperC Offline
                                  Copper
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #16

                                  @Axtremus said in SecTreas says economy not meeting equal opportunity:

                                  @Copper said in SecTreas says economy not meeting equal opportunity:

                                  @Axtremus said in SecTreas says economy not meeting equal opportunity:

                                  @Copper said in SecTreas says economy not meeting equal opportunity:

                                  Have government policy that encourages families rather than hate them.

                                  Name one government, anywhere in the world and any time in recorded history, that encouraged families.

                                  The United States

                                  Are all problems solved in the United States?

                                  Prior to LBJ things were headed in the right direction.

                                  Then the democrats embraced dementia.

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