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Ever so quietly backtracking on student loan relief

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  • MikM Away
    MikM Away
    Mik
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    https://www.npr.org/2022/09/29/1125923528/biden-student-loans-debt-cancellation-ffel-perkins

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • George KG Offline
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      "In a remarkable reversal..."

      Yeah, really.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        I wouldn’t be surprised if he changed it again to add an opt-out provision, which would remove standing from that Indiana plaintiff.

        They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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        • MikM Away
          MikM Away
          Mik
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          And therein lies the problem. It's not legislation, and it's not well crafted.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            Don’t let perfect be enemy of good.

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            • JollyJ Offline
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              Good left town with this administration.

              So far, The Resident has been a stellar disaster...

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                I wouldn’t be surprised if he changed it again to add an opt-out provision, which would remove standing from that Indiana plaintiff.

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                @jon-nyc said in Ever so quietly backtracking on student loan relief:

                I wouldn’t be surprised if he changed it again to add an opt-out provision, which would remove standing from that Indiana plaintiff.

                While essentially admitting that they know this thing can’t stand up to any sort of legal challenge, so try to eliminate anybody with possible standing…

                I’m still not convinced that Congressional Republicans, while a minority, wouldn’t have standing to file on their own. But I’m also fairly certain they would rather have it as a campaign issue in November rather than squashing it in October and I’m not sure reversing course in January will be feasible.

                The Brad

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                • MikM Away
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                  Mik
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                  Why not? It’s not like it’s a law.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                    @jon-nyc said in Ever so quietly backtracking on student loan relief:

                    I wouldn’t be surprised if he changed it again to add an opt-out provision, which would remove standing from that Indiana plaintiff.

                    While essentially admitting that they know this thing can’t stand up to any sort of legal challenge, so try to eliminate anybody with possible standing…

                    I’m still not convinced that Congressional Republicans, while a minority, wouldn’t have standing to file on their own. But I’m also fairly certain they would rather have it as a campaign issue in November rather than squashing it in October and I’m not sure reversing course in January will be feasible.

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                    @LuFins-Dad said in Ever so quietly backtracking on student loan relief:

                    @jon-nyc said in Ever so quietly backtracking on student loan relief:

                    I wouldn’t be surprised if he changed it again to add an opt-out provision, which would remove standing from that Indiana plaintiff.

                    While essentially admitting that they know this thing can’t stand up to any sort of legal challenge, so try to eliminate anybody with possible standing…

                    I’m still not convinced that Congressional Republicans, while a minority, wouldn’t have standing to file on their own. But I’m also fairly certain they would rather have it as a campaign issue in November rather than squashing it in October and I’m not sure reversing course in January will be feasible.

                    It's a campaign issue.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • MikM Mik

                      Why not? It’s not like it’s a law.

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                      @Mik said in Ever so quietly backtracking on student loan relief:

                      Why not? It’s not like it’s a law.

                      By January how many people will have had $10K-$20K knocked off their debt. It's one thing to stop the forgiveness before it happens, it's another thing to go ack and tell these people that you're putting $10K back on their ledger...

                      The Brad

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                      • JollyJ Jolly

                        @LuFins-Dad said in Ever so quietly backtracking on student loan relief:

                        @jon-nyc said in Ever so quietly backtracking on student loan relief:

                        I wouldn’t be surprised if he changed it again to add an opt-out provision, which would remove standing from that Indiana plaintiff.

                        While essentially admitting that they know this thing can’t stand up to any sort of legal challenge, so try to eliminate anybody with possible standing…

                        I’m still not convinced that Congressional Republicans, while a minority, wouldn’t have standing to file on their own. But I’m also fairly certain they would rather have it as a campaign issue in November rather than squashing it in October and I’m not sure reversing course in January will be feasible.

                        It's a campaign issue.

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                        @Jolly said in Ever so quietly backtracking on student loan relief:

                        @LuFins-Dad said in Ever so quietly backtracking on student loan relief:

                        @jon-nyc said in Ever so quietly backtracking on student loan relief:

                        I wouldn’t be surprised if he changed it again to add an opt-out provision, which would remove standing from that Indiana plaintiff.

                        While essentially admitting that they know this thing can’t stand up to any sort of legal challenge, so try to eliminate anybody with possible standing…

                        I’m still not convinced that Congressional Republicans, while a minority, wouldn’t have standing to file on their own. But I’m also fairly certain they would rather have it as a campaign issue in November rather than squashing it in October and I’m not sure reversing course in January will be feasible.

                        It's a campaign issue.

                        And you don't have a huge frigging issue with that?

                        The Brad

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                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                          @Jolly said in Ever so quietly backtracking on student loan relief:

                          @LuFins-Dad said in Ever so quietly backtracking on student loan relief:

                          @jon-nyc said in Ever so quietly backtracking on student loan relief:

                          I wouldn’t be surprised if he changed it again to add an opt-out provision, which would remove standing from that Indiana plaintiff.

                          While essentially admitting that they know this thing can’t stand up to any sort of legal challenge, so try to eliminate anybody with possible standing…

                          I’m still not convinced that Congressional Republicans, while a minority, wouldn’t have standing to file on their own. But I’m also fairly certain they would rather have it as a campaign issue in November rather than squashing it in October and I’m not sure reversing course in January will be feasible.

                          It's a campaign issue.

                          And you don't have a huge frigging issue with that?

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                          @LuFins-Dad said in Ever so quietly backtracking on student loan relief:

                          @Jolly said in Ever so quietly backtracking on student loan relief:

                          @LuFins-Dad said in Ever so quietly backtracking on student loan relief:

                          @jon-nyc said in Ever so quietly backtracking on student loan relief:

                          I wouldn’t be surprised if he changed it again to add an opt-out provision, which would remove standing from that Indiana plaintiff.

                          While essentially admitting that they know this thing can’t stand up to any sort of legal challenge, so try to eliminate anybody with possible standing…

                          I’m still not convinced that Congressional Republicans, while a minority, wouldn’t have standing to file on their own. But I’m also fairly certain they would rather have it as a campaign issue in November rather than squashing it in October and I’m not sure reversing course in January will be feasible.

                          It's a campaign issue.

                          And you don't have a huge frigging issue with that?

                          I know better.

                          The problem is the millions who swallow this crap whole. And neither you nor I are going to reach them in time. If ever.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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