Leaks in the pipeline - Nord Stream 1 & 2
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wrote on 4 Oct 2022, 20:44 last edited by
Interesting but he could also have covered US and Chinese incentives.
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wrote on 5 Oct 2022, 00:13 last edited by
Hybrid warfare, is Norway’s production next?
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wrote on 18 Oct 2022, 22:50 last edited by
Pitchers
https://www.newsweek.com/new-images-reveal-extent-damage-done-nord-stream-after-explosion-1752869
Danish investigators believe that the damage to the Nord Stream pipelines by "powerful explosions."
One source claims the explosions came from within the pipeline.
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Pitchers
https://www.newsweek.com/new-images-reveal-extent-damage-done-nord-stream-after-explosion-1752869
Danish investigators believe that the damage to the Nord Stream pipelines by "powerful explosions."
One source claims the explosions came from within the pipeline.
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wrote on 19 Oct 2022, 11:06 last edited by
“… long tears in the seabed near the concrete-reinforced steel pipe that was not merely cracked but torn apart ... At least 50 metres of the gas pipeline appeared to be missing.”
…Based on original reporting by a Swedish news site (more pictures and videos here): https://www.expressen.se/nyheter/forsta-bilderna-fran-sprangda-gasroret-pa-ostersjons-botten/
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wrote on 18 Nov 2022, 12:17 last edited by
Swedish authorities investigating a series of blasts that damaged undersea natural-gas pipelines in the Baltic Sea said they had found traces of explosives on several foreign objects nearby, a potential break in an international probe into who was responsible for what authorities have called sabotage.
Sweden, in a statement Friday, said it found traces of explosives on several of the foreign objects. It didn’t elaborate but said it was continuing the “very complex and extensive” probe aimed at finding a culprit.
The discovery of explosives could help investigators learn the origins of the material. A press officer at the prosecutor’s office said it wasn’t clear if the material they had found was traceable.
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wrote on 18 Nov 2022, 12:53 last edited by
So, what is the West going to do about it?
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wrote on 18 Nov 2022, 16:37 last edited by
@Renauda said in Leaks in the pipeline - Nord Stream 1 & 2:
Continue to sanction and isolate Russia.
I've read that that's not making as serious an effect as hoped.
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@Renauda said in Leaks in the pipeline - Nord Stream 1 & 2:
Continue to sanction and isolate Russia.
I've read that that's not making as serious an effect as hoped.
wrote on 18 Nov 2022, 17:57 last edited by RenaudaWell diplomacy hasn’t worked with Russia. Appeasement will only encourage continued bad behaviour in future. Doesn’t leave much else in the toolbox short of regime change. Don’t think anyone has the desire for the unintended consequences of that option.
So containment via economic sanction and political isolation remain the only practicable options in addition to material and technical support of Ukraine we have at the moment.
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wrote on 18 Nov 2022, 18:14 last edited by
The support for Ukraine may slow with a coming recession.
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wrote on 18 Nov 2022, 21:20 last edited by Mik
Compared to the trillions of dollars we poured own the rathole in the past three years, Ukraine aid is a bargain, and actually goes toward an end we want. A vitally important one.
Putin stuck his dick in the meat grinder. Let's make sure he can't pull it back out unharmed, much less be rewarded for it.
“I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill
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wrote on 18 Nov 2022, 22:33 last edited by jon-nyc
@Jolly said in Leaks in the pipeline - Nord Stream 1 & 2:
The support for Ukraine may slow with a coming recession.
True, but I was mostly concerned about the appeasement/Putin fanboi wing of the GOP getting too much power. With the MAGA implosion that doesn’t seem to have happened.
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Compared to the trillions of dollars we poured own the rathole in the past three years, Ukraine aid is a bargain, and actually goes toward an end we want. A vitally important one.
Putin stuck his dick in the meat grinder. Let's make sure he can't pull it back out unharmed, much less be rewarded for it.
wrote on 18 Nov 2022, 23:20 last edited by Renauda@Mik said in Leaks in the pipeline - Nord Stream 1 & 2:
Compared to the trillions of dollars we poured own the rathole in the past three years, Ukraine aid is a bargain, and actually goes toward an end we want. A vitally important one.
Putin stuck his dick in the meat grinder. Let's make sure he can't pull it back out unharmed, much less be rewarded for it.
It is a deal as we cannot afford to appease Putin’s imperial obsessions. Ukrainians are willing to fight to the last person to defend their country from Putin’s horde. All they want from us is consistent political, material and technical support as practicable.
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@Jolly said in Leaks in the pipeline - Nord Stream 1 & 2:
The support for Ukraine may slow with a coming recession.
True, but I was mostly concerned about the appeasement/Putin fanboi wing of the GOP getting too much power. With the MAGA implosion that doesn’t seem to have happened.
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Regardless of the outcome that is a legitimate concern. There’s still the Carlson/Gabbard tag team fanboi/appeasers out there.
wrote on 19 Nov 2022, 01:45 last edited by@Renauda said in Leaks in the pipeline - Nord Stream 1 & 2:
Regardless of the outcome that is a legitimate concern. There’s still the Carlson/Gabbard tag team fanboi/appeasers out there.
I'm not sure if I'd characterize either them as "fanbois." Support skeptics, to be sure, but fans of Putin? I don't think so.
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
