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YouTube Is Dead & Something New Is Coming

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  • Catseye3C Offline
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    Catseye3
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    #1

    From Isaiah McCall:

    "I like YouTube.

    As a platform it’s the Library of Congress for video and, as someone who loves both watching and making films, it’s been an amazing tool for discovery, creativity and connection.

    That said, I think it’s safe to say that YouTube is dead — creatively and artistically.

    “YouTube is inevitably heading towards being like television, but they never told their creators this,” Jamie Cohen, a professor of new media at Molloy College, told USA Today in 2018.

    It’s not just that YouTube has been overrun by low-quality content, clickbait and advertising. It’s not just that the once groundbreaking platform has become a Huxleyan dystopia of algorithm-driven content recommended by multinational corporations.

    It’s that YouTube’s “Golden Era” is clearly over.

    Independent creators are no longer being discovered and nurtured by the platform. The days of gumshoes and auteurs making brilliant, weird and wonderful videos in their bedrooms and attics and uploading them to YouTube are forever gone.

    Now something new is coming — something that will take the best of YouTube and make it even better."

    More: https://medium.com/yardcouch-com/youtube-is-dead-and-something-new-is-coming-132322b09be6

    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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    • Catseye3C Catseye3

      From Isaiah McCall:

      "I like YouTube.

      As a platform it’s the Library of Congress for video and, as someone who loves both watching and making films, it’s been an amazing tool for discovery, creativity and connection.

      That said, I think it’s safe to say that YouTube is dead — creatively and artistically.

      “YouTube is inevitably heading towards being like television, but they never told their creators this,” Jamie Cohen, a professor of new media at Molloy College, told USA Today in 2018.

      It’s not just that YouTube has been overrun by low-quality content, clickbait and advertising. It’s not just that the once groundbreaking platform has become a Huxleyan dystopia of algorithm-driven content recommended by multinational corporations.

      It’s that YouTube’s “Golden Era” is clearly over.

      Independent creators are no longer being discovered and nurtured by the platform. The days of gumshoes and auteurs making brilliant, weird and wonderful videos in their bedrooms and attics and uploading them to YouTube are forever gone.

      Now something new is coming — something that will take the best of YouTube and make it even better."

      More: https://medium.com/yardcouch-com/youtube-is-dead-and-something-new-is-coming-132322b09be6

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      George K
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      @Catseye3 said in YouTube Is Dead & Something New Is Coming:

      a Huxleyan dystopia of algorithm-driven content recommended by multinational corporations

      Well, there's the description of the day.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        xenon
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        #3

        Does anyone else have the sense that they don't want anything new?

        I aspire to have less of my life be spent looking at a screen. (for the record I spent untold hours on video games, TV, computer and internet since I was a kid)

        Did early TV watchers feel the same thing?

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        • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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          When anybody says 'YouTube is dead, here's what's replacing it', you know they're almost certainly wrong. If they really knew, they'd be rich beyond the dreams of avarice.

          I was only joking

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            Jolly
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            Read Aqua's stuff on YT. I think he's closest to the Truth.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              #6

              Really, the only other option is a decentralized YouTube built on blockchain technology.

              Aaaaahhh. This sentence is so super cringe-worthy. If the task would be "show me that you have no clue about tech whatsoever in one sentence", this would be the perfect answer.

              Blockchains are terrible as databases. Every node needs a full copy of everything, and all new data has to be distributed to every node. The last thing anyone who has any clue would do is to use it for video distribution.

              Just for perspective, the "bandwidth" of the Bitcoin network is 1 MB per 10 minutes, or 6 MB per hour. If you are generous, this is enough to store a 1 minute video.

              Around 30,000 hours of video are uploaded to YT per hour. So the bandwidth required to handle incoming new videos would exceed the Bitcoin network by a factor of 1,800,000.

              There are Blockchain networks with higher capacity, such as Ethereum. At current "gas" prices (that's what you have to pay to store something in their blockchain) you'd pay something like 100 million US$ per GB of data.

              I think what the author really means is P2P file sharing, like BitTorrent. This is a decentralized technology that is apt for video distribution. But we've already had P2P file sharing for decades, and it hasn't replaced Youtube (but it has had major influence on audio and video sales).

              One thing that might work - and I'm not aware that anyone has done that - is to put a Youtube-like interface on top of a P2P network.

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              • X xenon

                Does anyone else have the sense that they don't want anything new?

                I aspire to have less of my life be spent looking at a screen. (for the record I spent untold hours on video games, TV, computer and internet since I was a kid)

                Did early TV watchers feel the same thing?

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                89th
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                @xenon said in YouTube Is Dead & Something New Is Coming:

                Does anyone else have the sense that they don't want anything new?

                I aspire to have less of my life be spent looking at a screen. (for the record I spent untold hours on video games, TV, computer and internet since I was a kid)

                Did early TV watchers feel the same thing?

                I think you and I are pretty similar with a number of things, including this.

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                  Jolly
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                  Old farts.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • 89th8 89th

                    @xenon said in YouTube Is Dead & Something New Is Coming:

                    Does anyone else have the sense that they don't want anything new?

                    I aspire to have less of my life be spent looking at a screen. (for the record I spent untold hours on video games, TV, computer and internet since I was a kid)

                    Did early TV watchers feel the same thing?

                    I think you and I are pretty similar with a number of things, including this.

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                    @89th said in YouTube Is Dead & Something New Is Coming:

                    @xenon said in YouTube Is Dead & Something New Is Coming:

                    Does anyone else have the sense that they don't want anything new?

                    I aspire to have less of my life be spent looking at a screen. (for the record I spent untold hours on video games, TV, computer and internet since I was a kid)

                    Did early TV watchers feel the same thing?

                    I think you and I are pretty similar with a number of things, including this.

                    Agreed. And I agree with @Jolly too... you and I have strong "old fart" energy.

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