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Well, I lost some more money...

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  • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

    What goes down will go up.

    (At least long term, we will all be fine. At least I hope!!!)

    KlausK Online
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    Klaus
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    @taiwan_girl said in Well, I lost some more money...:

    What goes down will go up.

    (At least long term, we will all be fine. At least I hope!!!)

    Every rule is broken eventually. Every empire comes to an end at some point.

    We might be ahead of a black swan event.

    For instance, nuclear war doesn't seem to be completely unrealistic right now. Neither does full-scale war with China. Or an unprecedented recession. Or ... . Each of these may have a very small likelihood, but the combined likelihood that one of these "black swans" becomes reality isn't so small.

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    • KlausK Klaus

      @taiwan_girl said in Well, I lost some more money...:

      What goes down will go up.

      (At least long term, we will all be fine. At least I hope!!!)

      Every rule is broken eventually. Every empire comes to an end at some point.

      We might be ahead of a black swan event.

      For instance, nuclear war doesn't seem to be completely unrealistic right now. Neither does full-scale war with China. Or an unprecedented recession. Or ... . Each of these may have a very small likelihood, but the combined likelihood that one of these "black swans" becomes reality isn't so small.

      Doctor PhibesD Offline
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      #12

      @Klaus said in Well, I lost some more money...:

      @taiwan_girl said in Well, I lost some more money...:

      What goes down will go up.

      (At least long term, we will all be fine. At least I hope!!!)

      Every rule is broken eventually. Every empire comes to an end at some point.

      We might be ahead of a black swan event.

      For instance, nuclear war doesn't seem to be completely unrealistic right now. Neither does full-scale war with China. Or an unprecedented recession. Or ... . Each of these may have a very small likelihood, but the combined likelihood that one of these "black swans" becomes reality isn't so small.

      Have you ever considered a career in motivational speaking?

      I was only joking

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      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

        @Mik said in Well, I lost some more money...:

        Again I point out the importance of confidence. This administration does not help it along.

        I agree with that, and he's not the only one. The British economy is in a spiral far more scary than the yanks - they've had Brexit, Boris and now Peaches Truss. A number of American (and British) conservatives said Brexit was going to be fantastic for Britain. Apparently, they're Fuckwits. Who knew?

        Why would I care, you say? Well, due to exchange rate drops and market crashes we've just inherited a lot less than we would have if it wasn't for fuckwit central over there. First world problems, I guess. Still....

        MikM Away
        MikM Away
        Mik
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        @Doctor-Phibes said in Well, I lost some more money...:

        @Mik said in Well, I lost some more money...:

        Again I point out the importance of confidence. This administration does not help it along.

        I agree with that, and he's not the only one. The British economy is in a spiral far more scary than the yanks - they've had Brexit, Boris and now Peaches Truss. A number of American (and British) conservatives said Brexit was going to be fantastic for Britain. Apparently, they're Fuckwits. Who knew?

        Why would I care, you say? Well, due to exchange rate drops and market crashes we've just inherited a lot less than we would have if it wasn't for fuckwit central over there. First world problems, I guess. Still....

        May be first world, but that's personal. Sorry it happened.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • KlausK Klaus

          @taiwan_girl said in Well, I lost some more money...:

          What goes down will go up.

          (At least long term, we will all be fine. At least I hope!!!)

          Every rule is broken eventually. Every empire comes to an end at some point.

          We might be ahead of a black swan event.

          For instance, nuclear war doesn't seem to be completely unrealistic right now. Neither does full-scale war with China. Or an unprecedented recession. Or ... . Each of these may have a very small likelihood, but the combined likelihood that one of these "black swans" becomes reality isn't so small.

          MikM Away
          MikM Away
          Mik
          wrote on last edited by
          #14

          @Klaus said in Well, I lost some more money...:

          @taiwan_girl said in Well, I lost some more money...:

          What goes down will go up.

          (At least long term, we will all be fine. At least I hope!!!)

          Every rule is broken eventually. Every empire comes to an end at some point.

          We might be ahead of a black swan event.

          For instance, nuclear war doesn't seem to be completely unrealistic right now. Neither does full-scale war with China. Or an unprecedented recession. Or ... . Each of these may have a very small likelihood, but the combined likelihood that one of these "black swans" becomes reality isn't so small.

          It seems that every so many years we forget the lessons of the past.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            One of those lessons is what constitutes real wealth?

            Another, is what role should debt play in your finances?

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • MikM Away
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              Mik
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              The principles that apply to personal finances necessarily apply to public finance as well. But we have lots of people pretending they do not.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • MikM Mik

                The principles that apply to personal finances necessarily apply to public finance as well. But we have lots of people pretending they do not.

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                Jolly
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                @Mik said in Well, I lost some more money...:

                The principles that apply to personal finances necessarily apply to public finance as well. But we have lots of people pretending they do not.

                I talked elsewhere where I watched a series of documentaries on war material production and found some interesting nuggets. Here's the playlist for anybody interested:

                https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLfMrqOdrCidQ2gpuSIxW07ylqTu0Fln3v

                Something I found out yesterday I did not know, was that Great Britain weathered the Great Depression much better than the U.S. America spent a lot of money on social and public works projects such as CCA, WPA, and infrastructure, trying to artificially create jobs. The Brits cut social programs and lowered taxes. By the latter part of the 1930's, America was still wallowing in the Depression, while the British economy was definitely on the upswing.

                That meant that when WW2 started, the Brits rapidly caught up with, and surpassed, German war production, because their industrial base was more vibrant.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • George KG Offline
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                  George K
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                  "My 401K is now a 200.5K"

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    #19

                    Last night I got a signal that the market may be in for a short-term upswing. I was notified that a long AAPL option position of mine, meant as insurance for a different, opposite position, was exercised, forcing me to buy a bunch of overpriced AAPL shares. Whomever exercised those options, thinks that apple is at a bottom. I hope they're right. Meanwhile I'll be selling a bunch of AAPL shares and puts Monday morning, if anybody wants any.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                      LuFins Dad
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                      It’s fairly simple. When governments spend less and consumers spend more, times are good. When Government spends more and consumers spend less, times are less good. When everyone is spending like drunken sailors? Who the Fock knows?

                      The Brad

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