"The Pandemic is Over!"
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President Biden declared the coronavirus pandemic “over,” in apparently off-the-cuff remarks that reflect the growing sentiment that the threat of the virus has receded, even as hundreds of Americans continue to die of covid each day.
“We still have a problem with covid,” Biden said on “60 Minutes,” which aired Sunday night. “We’re still doing a lot of work on it … but the pandemic is over.”
Biden made the remarks Wednesday during an interview at the auto show in Detroit, referencing the crowds at the event. The annual auto show had not been held since 2019.
“If you notice, no one’s wearing masks,” Biden said to CBS News reporter Scott Pelley. “Everybody seems to be in pretty good shape. And so I think it’s changing. And I think this is a perfect example of it.”
While Biden’s comments were extemporaneous, they may complicate his administration’s so far unsuccessful efforts to secure additional funding from Congress for more coronavirus vaccines and treatments and to take other steps intended to combat the virus. Republicans on Sunday night raised questions about why the administration would renew its ongoing public health emergency if the pandemic is over. That emergency declaration, which is set to expire next month, has allowed federal officials to pursue flexible solutions amid the crisis, including rapidly authorizing new covid treatments and keeping many Americans covered by Medicaid, the safety-net health program. The Urban Institute, a think tank that conducts economic and social policy research, has estimated that as many as 15.8 million Americans could lose Medicaid coverage after the government ends its emergency declaration. -
What is your objection to his statement? An outbreak can be intensive without being a pandemic, can't it? "Pandemic is over" doesn't have to mean COVID never happens anywhere, does it?
I don't know. I'm just asking.
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What is your objection to his statement? An outbreak can be intensive without being a pandemic, can't it? "Pandemic is over" doesn't have to mean COVID never happens anywhere, does it?
I don't know. I'm just asking.
@Catseye3 said in "The Pandemic is Over!":
What is your objection to his statement?
Well, for example, the fact that the Washington Post, in the 4th paragraph, comments on how the administration might have to
walk backclarify Biden's "extemporaneous" comment.Secondly, now that it's allegedly "over," will that dissuade people from getting vaccinated?
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@Catseye3 said in "The Pandemic is Over!":
What is your objection to his statement?
Well, for example, the fact that the Washington Post, in the 4th paragraph, comments on how the administration might have to
walk backclarify Biden's "extemporaneous" comment.Secondly, now that it's allegedly "over," will that dissuade people from getting vaccinated?
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I saw the whole interview last night. He did really well, but I had one problem with it - 60 Minutes has a long history of convenient editing. 95% of the interview was not a shot of both men talking. It was a shot of the interviewer asking the questions, then of Biden answering them. That sort of scenario can be manipulated such that teleprompters can be used, retake after retake until he gets it right.
CBS has long been a mouthpiece for the Democratic party, and 60 Minutes has been shown to be less than credible journalism.
“I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill
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COVID became endemic with the onset of Omicron, as the virus went through the vaccinated and unvaccinated population like shit through a goose.
If you look back at what I was saying in the first months of the pandemic, the heightened panic (not the right word, but hey...) of masking everything that moved -especially with cloth and unfitted, sub-N95 quality masks - and locking down everything, was intolerable in a free society.
As the virus has mutated down in mortality levels and the public has learned that they were lied to about vaccine effectiveness, people have come to the realization that we're going to have to live with COVID, just like we live with influenza, Epstein-Barr and a host of other viruses.
So...Biden may have accidentally backed into the Truth, although it's not really something he can take credit for.
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I saw the whole interview last night. He did really well, but I had one problem with it - 60 Minutes has a long history of convenient editing. 95% of the interview was not a shot of both men talking. It was a shot of the interviewer asking the questions, then of Biden answering them. That sort of scenario can be manipulated such that teleprompters can be used, retake after retake until he gets it right.
CBS has long been a mouthpiece for the Democratic party, and 60 Minutes has been shown to be less than credible journalism.
@Mik said in "The Pandemic is Over!":
I saw the whole interview last night. He did really well, but I had one problem with it - 60 Minutes has a long history of convenient editing. 95% of the interview was not a shot of both men talking. It was a shot of the interviewer asking the questions, then of Biden answering them. That sort of scenario can be manipulated such that teleprompters can be used, retake after retake until he gets it right.
CBS has long been a mouthpiece for the Democratic party, and 60 Minutes has been shown to be less than credible journalism.
Absolutely. Certain things—scenarios, cinematography, editing, etc—make for good TV. They do an excellent job mining the overlap between "makes for good TV" and "makes us look credible." Every now and then those two also overlap with "good journalism," but it's rare.
Please love yourself.
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@Mik said in "The Pandemic is Over!":
I saw the whole interview last night. He did really well, but I had one problem with it - 60 Minutes has a long history of convenient editing. 95% of the interview was not a shot of both men talking. It was a shot of the interviewer asking the questions, then of Biden answering them. That sort of scenario can be manipulated such that teleprompters can be used, retake after retake until he gets it right.
CBS has long been a mouthpiece for the Democratic party, and 60 Minutes has been shown to be less than credible journalism.
Absolutely. Certain things—scenarios, cinematography, editing, etc—make for good TV. They do an excellent job mining the overlap between "makes for good TV" and "makes us look credible." Every now and then those two also overlap with "good journalism," but it's rare.
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@Mik said in "The Pandemic is Over!":
I saw the whole interview last night. He did really well, but I had one problem with it - 60 Minutes has a long history of convenient editing. 95% of the interview was not a shot of both men talking. It was a shot of the interviewer asking the questions, then of Biden answering them. That sort of scenario can be manipulated such that teleprompters can be used, retake after retake until he gets it right.
CBS has long been a mouthpiece for the Democratic party, and 60 Minutes has been shown to be less than credible journalism.
Absolutely. Certain things—scenarios, cinematography, editing, etc—make for good TV. They do an excellent job mining the overlap between "makes for good TV" and "makes us look credible." Every now and then those two also overlap with "good journalism," but it's rare.
@Aqua-Letifer said in "The Pandemic is Over!":
Certain things—scenarios, cinematography, editing, etc—make for good TV. They do an excellent job mining the overlap between "makes for good TV" and "makes us look credible." Every now and then those two also overlap with "good journalism," but it's rare.
This seems a very clear and succinct analysis. Once a viewer understands this, and applies his informed judgment (like Mik above), and then shares his insights with the offending program, we can be on the way to fixing the divide between "good TV" and "good journalism".
We just need the good journalists, if any are left, to stay alive long enough to help out with this.
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What is your objection to his statement? An outbreak can be intensive without being a pandemic, can't it? "Pandemic is over" doesn't have to mean COVID never happens anywhere, does it?
I don't know. I'm just asking.
@Catseye3 said in "The Pandemic is Over!":
What is your objection to his statement? An outbreak can be intensive without being a pandemic, can't it? "Pandemic is over" doesn't have to mean COVID never happens anywhere, does it?
I don't know. I'm just asking.
Words have meaning. The definition of a Pandemic is based on 1) prevalence and 2) prevalence on multiple continents.
COVID is far more prevalent now than it was when it was declared a Pandemic, and it's certainly even more widespread. No the pandemic is still going on. It's people's Give A F#$% levels that are lower.
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I saw the whole interview last night. He did really well, but I had one problem with it - 60 Minutes has a long history of convenient editing. 95% of the interview was not a shot of both men talking. It was a shot of the interviewer asking the questions, then of Biden answering them. That sort of scenario can be manipulated such that teleprompters can be used, retake after retake until he gets it right.
CBS has long been a mouthpiece for the Democratic party, and 60 Minutes has been shown to be less than credible journalism.
@Mik said in "The Pandemic is Over!":
I saw the whole interview last night. He did really well, but I had one problem with it - 60 Minutes has a long history of convenient editing. 95% of the interview was not a shot of both men talking. It was a shot of the interviewer asking the questions, then of Biden answering them. That sort of scenario can be manipulated such that teleprompters can be used, retake after retake until he gets it right.
CBS has long been a mouthpiece for the Democratic party, and 60 Minutes has been shown to be less than credible journalism.
I watched last night. Scott Pelley said "And I wonder..." about 5x. I normally count how many times he uses that phrase when asking a question during an interview.
I think it's fair to say the pandemic is over and we're now in a lingering phase of vaccinations, probably annually. There's essentially nothing our family wants to do that we can't because of COVID. Wow that was a poor sentence.
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Or it could go the other way, if the original pandemic declaration was wrong.
Whatever it was, the stupid political overreaction to it seems to be over.
@Copper said in "The Pandemic is Over!":
Or it could go the other way, if the original pandemic declaration was wrong.
Whatever it was, the stupid political overreaction to it seems to be over.
If the stupid political overreaction saved a single human life, it was worth it.
Education is extremely important.
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Apparently, a lot of folks did not like Pelley's softballs.
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Wait one fvcking minute! This has a huge impact on his Student Loan Forgiveness plan. The COVID EMERGENCY is the justification he's using for the forgiveness plan. If he's on TV two months before the plan takes place stating the emergency is over, he has just undermined his legal defense.
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Wait one fvcking minute! This has a huge impact on his Student Loan Forgiveness plan. The COVID EMERGENCY is the justification he's using for the forgiveness plan. If he's on TV two months before the plan takes place stating the emergency is over, he has just undermined his legal defense.
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@Copper said in "The Pandemic is Over!":
Or it could go the other way, if the original pandemic declaration was wrong.
Whatever it was, the stupid political overreaction to it seems to be over.
If the stupid political overreaction saved a single human life, it was worth it.
@Horace said in "The Pandemic is Over!":
@Copper said in "The Pandemic is Over!":
Or it could go the other way, if the original pandemic declaration was wrong.
Whatever it was, the stupid political overreaction to it seems to be over.
If the stupid political overreaction saved a single human life, it was worth it.
The correct measure is net lives, that is lives saved by the overreaction minus those killed by the overreaction. And please sort by political affiliation and skin color.
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@Horace said in "The Pandemic is Over!":
@Copper said in "The Pandemic is Over!":
Or it could go the other way, if the original pandemic declaration was wrong.
Whatever it was, the stupid political overreaction to it seems to be over.
If the stupid political overreaction saved a single human life, it was worth it.
The correct measure is net lives, that is lives saved by the overreaction minus those killed by the overreaction. And please sort by political affiliation and skin color.
