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A 5m masterclass on marketing

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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    #10

    I've never seen a Mac used in a LIS or HIS.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • KlausK Klaus

      He's an excellent speaker, and obviously he has been very successful with his approach. But his biggest success, the iPhone, was successful due to other factors. It was a success because it had a revolutionary way to use a phone and because it was extensible via the app store. The Apple brand may have played a role, too, but if Nokia had released something like the iPhone back then, they would have been just as successful with it. Macs, on the other hand - which is what the speech was about - are still a kind of niche product today. Popular among academics and nerds like me, but rarely ever used within companies as workplace products.

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      Aqua Letifer
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      #11

      @Klaus said in A 5m masterclass on marketing:

      Macs, on the other hand - which is what the speech was about - are still a kind of niche product today. Popular among academics and nerds like me, but rarely ever used within companies as workplace products.

      Uh, no. That's industry specific. In mine, Macs have always been and continue to be the standard workplace products. Many times they're required.

      Please love yourself.

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        #12

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        https://www.statista.com/statistics/218089/global-market-share-of-windows-7/

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        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems

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        • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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          #13

          Would 'cult' be more acceptable than 'niche'?

          Because from what I've seen there's a bunch of 'em working in the Apple store.

          I was only joking

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          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

            Would 'cult' be more acceptable than 'niche'?

            Because from what I've seen there's a bunch of 'em working in the Apple store.

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            George K
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            #14

            @Doctor-Phibes said in A 5m masterclass on marketing:

            Would 'cult' be more acceptable than 'niche'?

            Don't make me post that Ballmer "Developers!" video, birthday boy.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • George KG George K

              @Doctor-Phibes said in A 5m masterclass on marketing:

              Would 'cult' be more acceptable than 'niche'?

              Don't make me post that Ballmer "Developers!" video, birthday boy.

              Aqua LetiferA Offline
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              Aqua Letifer
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              #15

              @George-K said in A 5m masterclass on marketing:

              @Doctor-Phibes said in A 5m masterclass on marketing:

              Would 'cult' be more acceptable than 'niche'?

              Don't make me post that Ballmer "Developers!" video, birthday boy.

              Which one? There are a few.

              Please love yourself.

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              • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                @George-K said in A 5m masterclass on marketing:

                @Doctor-Phibes said in A 5m masterclass on marketing:

                Would 'cult' be more acceptable than 'niche'?

                Don't make me post that Ballmer "Developers!" video, birthday boy.

                Which one? There are a few.

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                #16

                @Aqua-Letifer said in A 5m masterclass on marketing:

                Which one? There are a few.

                The "Monkey Dance" is probably the best.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • markM Offline
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                  #17

                  lol

                  Platform wars. Making a comeback?

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                  • markM mark

                    lol

                    Platform wars. Making a comeback?

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                    #18

                    @mark said in A 5m masterclass on marketing:

                    lol

                    Platform wars. Making a comeback?

                    Apple won the war. By a lot.

                    I was only joking

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                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                      @mark said in A 5m masterclass on marketing:

                      lol

                      Platform wars. Making a comeback?

                      Apple won the war. By a lot.

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                      mark
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                      #19

                      @Doctor-Phibes ok. lol

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                      • 89th8 Offline
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                        89th
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                        #20

                        The "think different" ad was ruined for me once someone (probably on TNCR 15 years ago) pointed out that it should be "think differently".

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                        • 89th8 89th

                          The "think different" ad was ruined for me once someone (probably on TNCR 15 years ago) pointed out that it should be "think differently".

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                          #21

                          @89th said in A 5m masterclass on marketing:

                          The "think different" ad was ruined for me once someone (probably on TNCR 15 years ago) pointed out that it should be "think differently".

                          There was a lot of discussion about this back in the day.

                          The point that Jobs was making not that you should think in an unexpected way - "differently," but that you should think of things that are unexpected - "different."

                          It's like saying "Think blue." And an image of something blue pops into your head. Jobs was stressing the importance of thinking of the unexpected, whatever it might be.

                          Craig Tanimoto is also credited with opting for "Think different" rather than "Think differently," which was considered but rejected by Lee Clow. Jobs insisted that he wanted "different" to be used as a noun, as in "think victory" or "think beauty". He specifically said that "think differently" wouldn't have the same meaning to him. He wanted to make it sound colloquial, like the phrase "think big".

                          Perhaps "bigly" would have worked....

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            #22

                            He should have said - 'Dress up like a French twat and flog computers to unsuspecting pseudo-intellectuals'

                            No offence to the pseudo intellectuals Mac users here.

                            I was only joking

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                            • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                              He should have said - 'Dress up like a French twat and flog computers to unsuspecting pseudo-intellectuals'

                              No offence to the pseudo intellectuals Mac users here.

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                              Aqua Letifer
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                              @Doctor-Phibes said in A 5m masterclass on marketing:

                              He should have said - 'Dress up like a French twat and flog computers to unsuspecting pseudo-intellectuals'

                              No offence to the pseudo intellectuals Mac users here.

                              Ten bucks says more often than not, your phone flashlight is on when you pull it out of your pocket.

                              Please love yourself.

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                              • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                @Doctor-Phibes said in A 5m masterclass on marketing:

                                He should have said - 'Dress up like a French twat and flog computers to unsuspecting pseudo-intellectuals'

                                No offence to the pseudo intellectuals Mac users here.

                                Ten bucks says more often than not, your phone flashlight is on when you pull it out of your pocket.

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                                Doctor Phibes
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                                #24

                                @Aqua-Letifer said in A 5m masterclass on marketing:

                                Ten bucks says more often than not, your phone flashlight is on when you pull it out of your pocket.

                                Huh?

                                I was only joking

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                                • 89th8 Offline
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                                  89th
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                                  It’s an insult either to your age or lack of technical skills, or both. Personally, I would love to see the flashlight in your pocket.

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                                  • 89th8 89th

                                    It’s an insult either to your age or lack of technical skills, or both. Personally, I would love to see the flashlight in your pocket.

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                                    Doctor Phibes
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #26

                                    @89th the funniest thing is him thinking I have a phone with a light

                                    I was only joking

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                                    • 89th8 89th

                                      It’s an insult either to your age or lack of technical skills, or both. Personally, I would love to see the flashlight in your pocket.

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                                      @89th

                                      "Is that a flashlight in your pocket or are you glad to see me?"
                                      ^ ^ ^ ^
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                                      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                        @89th the funniest thing is him thinking I have a phone with a light

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                                        Aqua Letifer
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                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in A 5m masterclass on marketing:

                                        @89th the funniest thing is him thinking I have a phone with a light

                                        Dropped it one too many times, did we?

                                        Please love yourself.

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                                        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in A 5m masterclass on marketing:

                                          @89th the funniest thing is him thinking I have a phone with a light

                                          Dropped it one too many times, did we?

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                                          Doctor Phibes
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                                          @Aqua-Letifer said in A 5m masterclass on marketing:

                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in A 5m masterclass on marketing:

                                          @89th the funniest thing is him thinking I have a phone with a light

                                          Dropped it one too many times, did we?

                                          Hardly, not with my handy-dandy phone holster!

                                          I was only joking

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