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  • AxtremusA Offline
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    Axtremus
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    #5

    In a clinical setting, it’s fair to expect that some patient under circumstances can actually utter the phrase “I can’t breathe”, so in that sense I figure it’s fair to use that phrase in a medical school exam question. I guess a rephrasing like “patient communicates that he/she is experiencing severe difficulty in breathing” may convey the same meaning, more words, but minus the emotional trigger. Wonder if, years from now, some future doctors may get triggered when hearing the “I can’t breathe” phrase in an actual clinical setting.

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    • George KG Offline
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      George K
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      #6

      In the old days, we used to have SOAP charting:

      Subjective: What the patient says.
      Objective: What you see.
      Assessment: What you think is going on.
      Plan: What you're going to do about it.

      S: "I can't breathe."
      O: Patient is tachypneic and cyanotic
      A: Respiratory distress.
      P: Blood gas analysis, chest x-ray, oxygen therapy.

      And if you can't handle a patient saying that, you're in the wrong profession.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • George KG George K

        In the old days, we used to have SOAP charting:

        Subjective: What the patient says.
        Objective: What you see.
        Assessment: What you think is going on.
        Plan: What you're going to do about it.

        S: "I can't breathe."
        O: Patient is tachypneic and cyanotic
        A: Respiratory distress.
        P: Blood gas analysis, chest x-ray, oxygen therapy.

        And if you can't handle a patient saying that, you're in the wrong profession.

        JollyJ Offline
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        Jolly
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        #7

        @George-K said in Medical School Snowflakes:

        In the old days, we used to have SOAP charting:

        Subjective: What the patient says.
        Objective: What you see.
        Assessment: What you think is going on.
        Plan: What you're going to do about it.

        S: "I can't breathe."
        O: Patient is tachypneic and cyanotic
        A: Respiratory distress.
        P: Blood gas analysis, chest x-ray, oxygen therapy.

        And if you can't handle a patient saying that, you're in the wrong profession.

        I find that too many of the new guys are in the wrong profession. They want medicine to be a 9-5 job, weekends and holidays off with no calls. And they want to make a ton of money doing it.

        I think we need a major overhaul in our medical education, from cost, to degree inflation in nursing and ancillaries, to scope of practice.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • jon-nycJ Offline
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          jon-nyc
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          #8

          Jesus.

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          • George KG George K

            In the old days, we used to have SOAP charting:

            Subjective: What the patient says.
            Objective: What you see.
            Assessment: What you think is going on.
            Plan: What you're going to do about it.

            S: "I can't breathe."
            O: Patient is tachypneic and cyanotic
            A: Respiratory distress.
            P: Blood gas analysis, chest x-ray, oxygen therapy.

            And if you can't handle a patient saying that, you're in the wrong profession.

            Catseye3C Offline
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            Catseye3
            wrote on last edited by Catseye3
            #9

            @George-K And if you can't handle a patient saying that, you're in the wrong profession.

            Eh, it's newsish. Probably bigly less than a teensy drop in the bucket.

            So y'all can relax. Unless you don't mind being mistaken for a Dem, whose belief system, we learned just this morning, is based much more on "feelings".

            Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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            • 89th8 Offline
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              89th
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              #10

              The only way this trigger/snowflake movement ever stops is when it becomes uncool and no longer tolerated...by the media, by celebrities, by our government, by institutions. Unfortunately it's hard to see this happening given the constant fear of legal threats and public shaming on social media.

              Again, I haven't and won't vote for Trump, but it makes me appreciate how he doesn't just roll over to this idiocy.

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              • L Offline
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                Loki
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                #11

                Maybe the cops were triggered by “I can’t breathe” and froze.

                I’ll set my Siri app to scream. “I am experiencing atypical esophageal mediation”

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                • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                  Doctor Phibes
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                  #12

                  I have started trying to interject "This conversation is making me uncomfortable" at least once during every meeting I attend. The moment that people take me seriously is the moment I'll need to find another job.

                  I was only joking

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                  • CopperC Offline
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                    Copper
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                    #13

                    @George-K said in Medical School Snowflakes:

                    Daniel Corson-Knowles, an assistant professor of clinical medicine

                    Is an idiot

                    A complete unmitigated idiot

                    He should be fired immediately

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                    • L Loki

                      Maybe the cops were triggered by “I can’t breathe” and froze.

                      I’ll set my Siri app to scream. “I am experiencing atypical esophageal mediation”

                      taiwan_girlT Offline
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                      taiwan_girl
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #14

                      @Loki Funny! LOL

                      But, it is pretty weird for the students not to expect a phrase like that in a medical setting!!

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                      • AxtremusA Axtremus

                        In a clinical setting, it’s fair to expect that some patient under circumstances can actually utter the phrase “I can’t breathe”, so in that sense I figure it’s fair to use that phrase in a medical school exam question. I guess a rephrasing like “patient communicates that he/she is experiencing severe difficulty in breathing” may convey the same meaning, more words, but minus the emotional trigger. Wonder if, years from now, some future doctors may get triggered when hearing the “I can’t breathe” phrase in an actual clinical setting.

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                        Larry
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                        @Axtremus said in Medical School Snowflakes:

                        In a clinical setting, it’s fair to expect that some patient under circumstances can actually utter the phrase “I can’t breathe”, so in that sense I figure it’s fair to use that phrase in a medical school exam question. I guess a rephrasing like “patient communicates that he/she is experiencing severe difficulty in breathing” may convey the same meaning, more words, but minus the emotional trigger. Wonder if, years from now, some future doctors may get triggered when hearing the “I can’t breathe” phrase in an actual clinical setting.

                        Here's a good example of the difference between a Lefty and a Righty.

                        The Lefty attempts to accommodate the stupidity.

                        The Righty tells them to grow the fuck up.

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