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Hurry Up and Die

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  • JollyJ Jolly

    @Catseye3 said in Hurry Up and Die:

    @Jolly
    But we're not talking about that. That was me explaining to Copper one possible result if the government got what he believes is its wish to let all the sick people die. This will not happen, because we live in a rational world, especially compared to Copper's cockamamie theory. So the exchange is silly to begin with.

    It ain't that rational. If and when funds become finite, what is the better use of money, national defense or Medicare? Public education or Medicare? Infrastructure or Medicare?

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    Catseye3
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    #26

    @Jolly said in Hurry Up and Die:

    If and when funds become finite, what is the better use of money, national defense or Medicare?

    Jesus Christ. What does that have to do with the original point of this thread?

    I give up. Believe what you need to. Why I persist in debating someone who is less interested in the truth than in having the last word is beyond me.

    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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      Doctor Phibes
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      #27

      American conservatives have yet to find a problem that cannot be solved by encouraging people to buy more guns, and I'm sure the dangers of an aging population are no different in that regard.

      I was only joking

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      • Catseye3C Catseye3

        @Jolly
        But we're not talking about that. That was me explaining to Copper one possible result if the government got what he believes is its wish to let all the sick people die. This will not happen, because we live in a rational world, especially compared to Copper's cockamamie theory. So the exchange is silly to begin with.

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        Copper
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        #28

        @Catseye3 said in Hurry Up and Die:

        Copper's cockamamie theory

        I said nothing about the government's wishes or intentions, only motivation.

        The motivation exists, there can be no question about this.

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        • CopperC Copper

          @Catseye3 said in Hurry Up and Die:

          Copper's cockamamie theory

          I said nothing about the government's wishes or intentions, only motivation.

          The motivation exists, there can be no question about this.

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          Renauda
          wrote on last edited by
          #29

          @Copper

          Okay so the motivation is cockamamie along with your theory.

          Elbows up!

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          • RenaudaR Renauda

            @Copper

            Okay so the motivation is cockamamie along with your theory.

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            Jolly
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            #30

            @Renauda said in Hurry Up and Die:

            @Copper

            Okay so the motivation is cockamamie along with your theory.

            Not so.

            Are there not numerous incidents in history of allocating resources in times of need? Euthanasia can be looked at in the same way...Copper is correct. The motivation will exist.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • Catseye3C Catseye3

              @Jolly said in Hurry Up and Die:

              If and when funds become finite, what is the better use of money, national defense or Medicare?

              Jesus Christ. What does that have to do with the original point of this thread?

              I give up. Believe what you need to. Why I persist in debating someone who is less interested in the truth than in having the last word is beyond me.

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              Jolly
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              @Catseye3 said in Hurry Up and Die:

              @Jolly said in Hurry Up and Die:

              If and when funds become finite, what is the better use of money, national defense or Medicare?

              Jesus Christ. What does that have to do with the original point of this thread?

              I give up. Believe what you need to. Why I persist in debating someone who is less interested in the truth than in having the last word is beyond me.

              Motivation.

              Do keep up.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                @Renauda said in Hurry Up and Die:

                @Copper

                Okay so the motivation is cockamamie along with your theory.

                Not so.

                Are there not numerous incidents in history of allocating resources in times of need? Euthanasia can be looked at in the same way...Copper is correct. The motivation will exist.

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                Renauda
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                #32

                @Jolly said in Hurry Up and Die:

                @Renauda said in Hurry Up and Die:

                @Copper

                Okay so the motivation is cockamamie along with your theory.

                Not so.

                Are there not numerous incidents in history of allocating resources in times of need? Euthanasia can be looked at in the same way...Copper is correct. The motivation will exist.

                I seem to recall the motivation in this country being widespread public pressure and support for a law that would allow individuals with hopelessly terminal illness to chose the time and manner of their passing. But what would I know, eh?

                Like Phibes stated, when Americans talk about foreign health care topics they are actually talking about US health care issues.

                Be my guest, but your definition of motivation is just another in the many distractors you throw out to make sure you get last word.

                Go ahead and motivate. Knock yourself out.

                Elbows up!

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                • RenaudaR Renauda

                  @Jolly said in Hurry Up and Die:

                  @Renauda said in Hurry Up and Die:

                  @Copper

                  Okay so the motivation is cockamamie along with your theory.

                  Not so.

                  Are there not numerous incidents in history of allocating resources in times of need? Euthanasia can be looked at in the same way...Copper is correct. The motivation will exist.

                  I seem to recall the motivation in this country being widespread public pressure and support for a law that would allow individuals with hopelessly terminal illness to chose the time and manner of their passing. But what would I know, eh?

                  Like Phibes stated, when Americans talk about foreign health care topics they are actually talking about US health care issues.

                  Be my guest, but your definition of motivation is just another in the many distractors you throw out to make sure you get last word.

                  Go ahead and motivate. Knock yourself out.

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                  Copper
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                  @Renauda said in Hurry Up and Die:

                  But what would I know, eh?

                  Just because you have spent some time there doesn't disqualify anyone else from posting about Canada.

                  That seems to be your answer for every post that even mentions Canada. You happen to be inside the border, so what?

                  And money provides motivation, really, ask any Canadian.

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                  • CopperC Copper

                    @Renauda said in Hurry Up and Die:

                    But what would I know, eh?

                    Just because you have spent some time there doesn't disqualify anyone else from posting about Canada.

                    That seems to be your answer for every post that even mentions Canada. You happen to be inside the border, so what?

                    And money provides motivation, really, ask any Canadian.

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                    Renauda
                    wrote on last edited by Renauda
                    #34

                    @Copper

                    So what’s your point?

                    I’ll correct people’s perception of this country as I see fit. Especially if they don’t know what they are talking about. Like you for example.

                    Elbows up!

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                    • RenaudaR Renauda

                      @Copper

                      So what’s your point?

                      I’ll correct people’s perception of this country as I see fit. Especially if they don’t know what they are talking about. Like you for example.

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                      Copper
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                      #35

                      @Renauda said in Hurry Up and Die:

                      @Copper

                      So what’s you point?

                      I’ll correct people’s perception of this country as I see fit. Especially if they don’t know what they are talking about. Like you for example.

                      I live in North America which makes me an expert on North America.

                      And money provides motivation, really, ask any North American.

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                      • RenaudaR Renauda

                        @Jolly said in Hurry Up and Die:

                        @Renauda said in Hurry Up and Die:

                        @Copper

                        Okay so the motivation is cockamamie along with your theory.

                        Not so.

                        Are there not numerous incidents in history of allocating resources in times of need? Euthanasia can be looked at in the same way...Copper is correct. The motivation will exist.

                        I seem to recall the motivation in this country being widespread public pressure and support for a law that would allow individuals with hopelessly terminal illness to chose the time and manner of their passing. But what would I know, eh?

                        Like Phibes stated, when Americans talk about foreign health care topics they are actually talking about US health care issues.

                        Be my guest, but your definition of motivation is just another in the many distractors you throw out to make sure you get last word.

                        Go ahead and motivate. Knock yourself out.

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                        Jolly
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #36

                        @Renauda said in Hurry Up and Die:

                        @Jolly said in Hurry Up and Die:

                        @Renauda said in Hurry Up and Die:

                        @Copper

                        Okay so the motivation is cockamamie along with your theory.

                        Not so.

                        Are there not numerous incidents in history of allocating resources in times of need? Euthanasia can be looked at in the same way...Copper is correct. The motivation will exist.

                        I seem to recall the motivation in this country being widespread public pressure and support for a law that would allow individuals with hopelessly terminal illness to chose the time and manner of their passing. But what would I know, eh?

                        Like Phibes stated, when Americans talk about foreign health care topics they are actually talking about US health care issues.

                        Be my guest, but your definition of motivation is just another in the many distractors you throw out to make sure you get last word.

                        Go ahead and motivate. Knock yourself out.

                        The initial motivation? Perhaps.

                        But it does lend itself to a slippery slope argument, especially if resources become scarce.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

                        RenaudaR 1 Reply Last reply
                        • CopperC Copper

                          @Renauda said in Hurry Up and Die:

                          @Copper

                          So what’s you point?

                          I’ll correct people’s perception of this country as I see fit. Especially if they don’t know what they are talking about. Like you for example.

                          I live in North America which makes me an expert on North America.

                          And money provides motivation, really, ask any North American.

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                          Renauda
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #37

                          @Copper

                          I live in North America which makes me an expert on North America.

                          Really now? You don’t say.

                          And money provides motivation, really, ask any North American.

                          Yes of course, ask any North American.

                          Elbows up!

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                          • JollyJ Jolly

                            @Renauda said in Hurry Up and Die:

                            @Jolly said in Hurry Up and Die:

                            @Renauda said in Hurry Up and Die:

                            @Copper

                            Okay so the motivation is cockamamie along with your theory.

                            Not so.

                            Are there not numerous incidents in history of allocating resources in times of need? Euthanasia can be looked at in the same way...Copper is correct. The motivation will exist.

                            I seem to recall the motivation in this country being widespread public pressure and support for a law that would allow individuals with hopelessly terminal illness to chose the time and manner of their passing. But what would I know, eh?

                            Like Phibes stated, when Americans talk about foreign health care topics they are actually talking about US health care issues.

                            Be my guest, but your definition of motivation is just another in the many distractors you throw out to make sure you get last word.

                            Go ahead and motivate. Knock yourself out.

                            The initial motivation? Perhaps.

                            But it does lend itself to a slippery slope argument, especially if resources become scarce.

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                            Renauda
                            wrote on last edited by Renauda
                            #38

                            @Jolly

                            But it does lend itself to a slippery slope argument, especially if resources become scarce.

                            Ah yes, the slippery slope argument.

                            That’s why North Americans up here wear ice cleats when they go out in winter. I bet one or two self professed experts here did not know that.

                            Elbows up!

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