Trump sues to block Bolton book
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@xenon said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:
Meh - outside of military preparations and secrets, - I don’t see why everything needs to be classified.
This is not a Trump-specific opinion.
Is the opinion that everything the President says should be classifieds unless it’s a public statement or in front of a camera?
The government should be more transparent by design.
Doesn't matter. No President can operate effectively, unless what is said in the Oval Office, state in the Oval Office.
Person or party has nothing to do with it.
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In the meantime it’s worth reflecting on the fact that the Department of Justice is asking a court to ban every bookstore in the United States from selling a book that’s critical of the President.
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@Loki said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:
Suddenly and out of nowhere we are compelled to #believebolton.
Not “sudden” at all.
If you have to believe either Bolton or, say, GW Bush, you believe GW Bush.
But if you have to believe either Bolton or Trump, you should believe Bolton. -
@Axtremus said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:
@Loki said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:
Suddenly and out of nowhere we are compelled to #believebolton.
Not “sudden” at all.
If you have to believe either Bolton or, say, GW Bush, you believe GW Bush.
But if you have to believe either Bolton or Trump, you should believe Bolton.As usual, the point flies five feet over your head...
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@Loki said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:
Suddenly and out of nowhere we are compelled to #believebolton.
Please ignore everything we previously wrote about him.
You can’t make this up.
I never complained about his honesty rather his extreme hawkish to the point of trigger-happy foreign policy views. Trump came around to my view eventually.
But to your question, who do you think is more trustworthy in his assessment of the conversations covered in the book, Trump or Bolton?
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@Axtremus said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:
Trump called Bolton a “traitor.”
Trump hired a “traitor” to be his national security adviser.Reflect a bit on that.
You’ll see that Trump sucks monumentally at hiring good people.Boy, you are seven kinds of stupid.
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If Bolton was doing this after being fired by Obama, conservatives would be calling him a patriot.
I know, none of them will ever admit it, but we all know it's true.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:
If Bolton was doing this after being fired by Obama, conservatives would be calling him a patriot.
I know, none of them will ever admit it, but we all know it's true.
I think you just spoke for yourself.
Under today’s rules a person can be taken down for something they said twenty years ago, yet if they said things their entire life and suddenly said one thing that appealed to the convenience of a tribe they are lionized.
This is the party of the “intellectuals”.
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You honestly believe all the Obama haters would be criticising Bolton?
I have a bridge for sale, if you're interested. One careful owner.
Proud supporter of Plan 2525. Everything you think, do and say will be in the pill you took today.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:
You honestly believe all the Obama haters would be criticising Bolton?
I have a bridge for sale, if you're interested. One careful owner.
And that one careful owner is a nice old lady who drives over the bridge only once a week to go to church.
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@Axtremus said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:
You honestly believe all the Obama haters would be criticising Bolton?
I have a bridge for sale, if you're interested. One careful owner.
And that one careful owner is a nice old lady who drives over the bridge only once a week to go to church.
Oh I feel so burned.
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@Loki said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:
If Bolton was doing this after being fired by Obama, conservatives would be calling him a patriot.
I know, none of them will ever admit it, but we all know it's true.
I think you just spoke for yourself.
Under today’s rules a person can be taken down for something they said twenty years ago, yet if they said things their entire life and suddenly said one thing that appealed to the convenience of a tribe they are lionized.
This is the party of the “intellectuals”.
It's just people being people. The idea that Republicans and Democrats are somehow fundamentally different is very quaint and all, and I'm sure it makes both groups feel better about themselves at 4 o'clock in the morning when they awaken screaming at the void that was once their soul, but they're just people.
Proud supporter of Plan 2525. Everything you think, do and say will be in the pill you took today.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:
@Loki said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:
If Bolton was doing this after being fired by Obama, conservatives would be calling him a patriot.
I know, none of them will ever admit it, but we all know it's true.
I think you just spoke for yourself.
Under today’s rules a person can be taken down for something they said twenty years ago, yet if they said things their entire life and suddenly said one thing that appealed to the convenience of a tribe they are lionized.
This is the party of the “intellectuals”.
It's just people being people. The idea that Republicans and Democrats are somehow fundamentally different is very quaint and all, and I'm sure it makes both groups feel better about themselves at 4 o'clock in the morning when they awaken screaming at the void that was once their soul, but they're just people.
Uh, no. And I mean that.
As a very general rule, the Dem 's belief system is based much more on "feelings". Not to say the Far Right doesn't generate its share of wackos, but I think you'll find a little more thought and a tad more logic in Republicans and many Independents.
Always remember, Operation Valkyrie was an act of sedition.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:
@Loki said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:
If Bolton was doing this after being fired by Obama, conservatives would be calling him a patriot.
I know, none of them will ever admit it, but we all know it's true.
I think you just spoke for yourself.
Under today’s rules a person can be taken down for something they said twenty years ago, yet if they said things their entire life and suddenly said one thing that appealed to the convenience of a tribe they are lionized.
This is the party of the “intellectuals”.
It's just people being people. The idea that Republicans and Democrats are somehow fundamentally different is very quaint and all, and I'm sure it makes both groups feel better about themselves at 4 o'clock in the morning when they awaken screaming at the void that was once their soul, but they're just people.
Forget the people and look at the ideology. They are polar opposites. If the leadership of the Republican party started pulling us in the direction of extremist views on the right, most all republicans would refuse to go along with it. That's because the Right is by and large committed to a set of values. Politics or ideology must conform to those standards. The Left on the other hand are committed to an ideology. Their values shift depending on which direction the ideology takes. We are watching it happen as I speak. The Democrat Party is dead. All that remains of it is the name and the political machinery. It is now used as an umbrella tag covering dozens upon dozens of little special interest groups, and bound loosely together by a religion called Progressivism. The Left has no values, no principles. Those are supplied by the ideology, determined by the saints and apostles of the religion of Progressivism.
You're correct that the average Joe is as a person, pretty much the same regardless of political party. That ends once that I individual has to confront his ideological self. Then they become completely different animals.
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@jon-nyc said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:
@Loki said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:
Suddenly and out of nowhere we are compelled to #believebolton.
Please ignore everything we previously wrote about him.
You can’t make this up.
I never complained about his honesty rather his extreme hawkish to the point of trigger-happy foreign policy views. Trump came around to my view eventually.
But to your question, who do you think is more trustworthy in his assessment of the conversations covered in the book, Trump or Bolton?
Bump for Loki.
