Trump sues to block Bolton book

[Doctor Phibes]

I should say, and I realise I wasn't clear in my original post, I don't approve of Bolton writing the book. I didn't agree with Peter Wright writing his book, either. Both of them were disgruntled former employees who felt that they'd been badly treated. They may both be right, or they might not, but these are basically kiss and tell books written by people that no sane person wants to have sex with.

I hypocritically read Spycatcher when my brother brought it back from Australia, and it was actually fascinating stuff. I won't bother with Bolton's.

[Copper]

@xenon said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:

Doesn't this all depend on what Bolton actually has to say?

Classified info:

We were considering planning country X with Y force on such and such date.

Probably not classified info:

We were considering a foreign military operation. Such and such orange person thought the only thing to consider would be some factor. He didn't even take into account blah, blah, blah. My principles were this, other other person's were that.

You can relay a story about a confidential matter, without saying what the confidential matter was. Now this all can get grey pretty fast, but you get my point.

No. Confidential means confidential.

The enemy would love to have any and all little bits of information. Even the fact that Bolton talked to the president is important if you are trying to learn about an enemy.

The only time anything should be released is when you want to feed the enemy misleading information. And occasionally you give him some good secret stuff so he can't easily learn how to tell what is good and what is bad.

We used to tell who was important in Moscow by the location of officials during the May Day parade. And the Russians would shuffle people in the pictures to mislead us.

Mr. Bolton should only be publishing anything even close to secret because we want the enemy to have the information. Not because it makes a juicy book.

[xenon]

Meh - outside of military preparations and secrets, - I don’t see why everything needs to be classified.

This is not a Trump-specific opinion.

Is the opinion that everything the President says should be classifieds unless it’s a public statement or in front of a camera?

The government should be more transparent by design.

[George K]

@xenon said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:

The government should be more transparent flexible by design.

FIFY

[Copper]

@xenon said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:

Meh - outside of military preparations and secrets, - I don’t see why everything needs to be classified.

Everything does not need to be classified.

Problem solved.

The government should be more transparent by design.

Mr. Trump may be the most transparent person in the world. He may be the most transparent person since Jesus Christ.

It is unlikely that anyone could be more transparent than Mr. Trump. And that is likely not by design.

[Loki]

We all know now Bolton’s true character. He makes money and gets his revenge through a tell all. Putting the merits of the book aside I would never associate with an individual of that character. My personal opinion is that it is one of the worst traits an individual can have.

[Larry]

@xenon said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:

Meh - outside of military preparations and secrets, - I don’t see why everything needs to be classified.

This is not a Trump-specific opinion.

Is the opinion that everything the President says should be classifieds unless it’s a public statement or in front of a camera?

The government should be more transparent by design.

It doesn't matter what you see. Fortunately for the rest of us, we are ruled by law, not the personal whims of opinionated individuals who don't have a clue what's going on.

[Rainman]

Bolton seems like a sleeze. Kinda like that Judge Napolitano guy.
They're all big shots and happy, till they get canned.
Then they're little shots, trying to become big shots + this time, money.

[Loki]

@Rainman said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:

Bolton seems like a sleeze. Kinda like that Judge Napolitano guy.
They're all big shots and happy, till they get canned.
Then they're little shots, trying to become big shots + this time, money.

Worse yet he’s a blowhard and then his last act is weasel. And every liberal will despise him forever regardless.

[jon-nyc]

[Loki]

@jon-nyc

Tell us how much you love and respect him. Lol

[Jolly]

@xenon said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:

Meh - outside of military preparations and secrets, - I don’t see why everything needs to be classified.

This is not a Trump-specific opinion.

Is the opinion that everything the President says should be classifieds unless it’s a public statement or in front of a camera?

The government should be more transparent by design.

Doesn't matter. No President can operate effectively, unless what is said in the Oval Office, state in the Oval Office.

Person or party has nothing to do with it.

[Larry]

@jon-nyc said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:

The only problem with your cartoon is that the cult is the Left.

[jon-nyc]

In the meantime it’s worth reflecting on the fact that the Department of Justice is asking a court to ban every bookstore in the United States from selling a book that’s critical of the President.

[Larry]

You're going to have to prove that one.

[Loki]

Suddenly and out of nowhere we are compelled to #believebolton.

Please ignore everything we previously wrote about him.

You can’t make this up.

[Axtremus]

@Loki said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:

Suddenly and out of nowhere we are compelled to #believebolton.

Not “sudden” at all.
If you have to believe either Bolton or, say, GW Bush, you believe GW Bush.
But if you have to believe either Bolton or Trump, you should believe Bolton.

[Jolly]

@Axtremus said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:

@Loki said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:

Suddenly and out of nowhere we are compelled to #believebolton.

Not “sudden” at all.
If you have to believe either Bolton or, say, GW Bush, you believe GW Bush.
But if you have to believe either Bolton or Trump, you should believe Bolton.

As usual, the point flies five feet over your head...

[Axtremus]

Trump called Bolton a “traitor.”
Trump hired a “traitor” to be his national security adviser.

Reflect a bit on that.
You’ll see that Trump sucks monumentally at hiring good people.

[jon-nyc]

@Loki said in Trump sues to block Bolton book:

Suddenly and out of nowhere we are compelled to #believebolton.

Please ignore everything we previously wrote about him.

You can’t make this up.

I never complained about his honesty rather his extreme hawkish to the point of trigger-happy foreign policy views. Trump came around to my view eventually.

But to your question, who do you think is more trustworthy in his assessment of the conversations covered in the book, Trump or Bolton?