No degree, please.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in No degree, please.:
Also, how could this possibly be enforced? Just remove your degree from your resume. Good luck cross-referencing every public and private school's graduation data, over the span of about twenty years, because even if every single one gives you their list (and they're not, ever), your HR person is going to have to run that check for every applicant. And the process is convoluted and time-consuming enough as it is.
Possibly the Communications PhD and Video Games Scholar (I kid you not) didn't think of that.
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@Doctor-Phibes Okay I'm looking this guy up. Please tell me there's a photo and it's exactly what I think it is.
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Okay I found some photos. This guy isn't a video games scholar. Trying to look like Dan Brown in your crappy online headshots and dabbling in Civ VI does not make you a video games scholar. If he's that, then I'm a fucking tea botanist.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in No degree, please.:
Right, next time I hire an engineer, I won't bother asking for any qualifications. After all, who needs maths? Journalists don't, so why would anybody else?
Didn't bother to read the essay, didya?
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@Jolly said in No degree, please.:
@Doctor-Phibes said in No degree, please.:
Right, next time I hire an engineer, I won't bother asking for any qualifications. After all, who needs maths? Journalists don't, so why would anybody else?
Didn't bother to read the essay, didya?
You mean this bit?
With the exception of doctors, engineers, and a handful of other professions that can be taught in dedicated schools, as is the case in most of the rest of the world there’s no single skill set you can acquire in any of America’s best universities these days that you’d actually need to perform any high-paying job in our contemporary economy
This is the same old tired argument about education being worthless. I wouldn't mind so much if he didn't describe himself as a video games scholar.
Handful of professions? Seriously? Try absolutely everything technical.
The problem with Communications people is they think they're actually the majority.
Proud supporter of Plan 2525. Everything you think, do and say will be in the pill you took today.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in No degree, please.:
@Jolly said in No degree, please.:
@Doctor-Phibes said in No degree, please.:
Right, next time I hire an engineer, I won't bother asking for any qualifications. After all, who needs maths? Journalists don't, so why would anybody else?
Didn't bother to read the essay, didya?
You mean this bit?
With the exception of doctors, engineers, and a handful of other professions that can be taught in dedicated schools, as is the case in most of the rest of the world there’s no single skill set you can acquire in any of America’s best universities these days that you’d actually need to perform any high-paying job in our contemporary economy
This is the same old tired argument about education being worthless. I wouldn't mind so much if he didn't describe himself as a video games scholar.
Handful of professions? Seriously? Try absolutely everything technical.
The problem with Communications people is they think they're actually the majority.
I know some pretty well paid IT people without a college degree....
Always remember, Operation Valkyrie was an act of sedition.
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I know a few engineers without college degrees.
The problem with the article is he's suggesting swapping one kind of stupid for an even more stupid kind of stupid.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in No degree, please.:
@Jolly said in No degree, please.:
@Doctor-Phibes said in No degree, please.:
Right, next time I hire an engineer, I won't bother asking for any qualifications. After all, who needs maths? Journalists don't, so why would anybody else?
Didn't bother to read the essay, didya?
You mean this bit?
With the exception of doctors, engineers, and a handful of other professions that can be taught in dedicated schools, as is the case in most of the rest of the world there’s no single skill set you can acquire in any of America’s best universities these days that you’d actually need to perform any high-paying job in our contemporary economy
This is the same old tired argument about education being worthless. I wouldn't mind so much if he didn't describe himself as a video games scholar.
It's the same argument that comes from internet rules lawyers and hobbyist gatekeepers who tell n00bs that they're doin' it wrong.
I think that ivory tower academia wouldn't accept the likes of me, but there's nothing wrong with me, so I'm bitter about that. Therefore, I'm snide about education generally. Because I perceive it as a game I'm not allowed to play, even though I could. So I'll make a case that the competence games I do engage in have far more value than education, and I'm going to look for opportunities to shit on the latter. Makes me feel better about myself.
It's shite. Railing against formal education is silly as railing against carpentry or deer hunting. Anyone without an agenda could see that you get out of it what you put into it.
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@Jolly said in No degree, please.:
@Doctor-Phibes said in No degree, please.:
@Jolly said in No degree, please.:
@Doctor-Phibes said in No degree, please.:
Right, next time I hire an engineer, I won't bother asking for any qualifications. After all, who needs maths? Journalists don't, so why would anybody else?
Didn't bother to read the essay, didya?
You mean this bit?
With the exception of doctors, engineers, and a handful of other professions that can be taught in dedicated schools, as is the case in most of the rest of the world there’s no single skill set you can acquire in any of America’s best universities these days that you’d actually need to perform any high-paying job in our contemporary economy
This is the same old tired argument about education being worthless. I wouldn't mind so much if he didn't describe himself as a video games scholar.
Handful of professions? Seriously? Try absolutely everything technical.
The problem with Communications people is they think they're actually the majority.
I know some pretty well paid IT people without a college degree....
One of the best journalists I've ever worked with was a cabinetmaker by trade. But that doesn't mean that if you have a degree then you're a silly SJW. That's as stupid as actually believing West Virginians have no teeth and marry their siblings.
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George Stephenson, the designer of the first steam engine, didn't have a degree.
Neither did Thomas Andrews, the lead architect of The Titanic, nor for that matter did Adolf Hitler, the world-renowned social reformer.
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I'm sure there are hundreds if not thousands of McDonalds Customer Service Food Operatives with degrees.
What this guy is actually recommending is Affirmitive Action based not on race, but on education.
IOW, a typical liberal arts graduate solution
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All this is way beyond the pale, IMO. Two very bad developments that took place many years ago have caused terrible damage, -- damage I don't see being fixed, and I fear won't be in the future.
Many years ago two things happened. One was television, the other was the stupidification of K-12 education. Television took a terrible toll on kids' brains. The reality they learned via television was, as we all know, very different from real reality. Even worse, they learned passivity. They learned that sometimes, you could talk to mom and get a response, and other times you talked to TV people and they ignored you like you weren't there. They learned this when they were too young to understand the difference. Kids don't spend a lot of time puzzling things out; they accept whatever the world lays down in front of them as gospel. They knew only that sometimes things worked one way and sometimes another, and they were left without the means to dismiss one and operate on the other.
They learned to see poorly. They learned to accept things happening in front of them that an older person could differentiate the real and the unreal.
They spent hours in front of the TV babysitter, and then they went to school, where they were taught many things, but not how to think. They sat and learned how to accept all day, and then they went home and the TV taught them how to accept some more.
The two entities fed each other.
The terrible thing, the thing that we are reaping the effects of now, is that they did not learn how to see.
The result is that we have millions of grownups who don't know how to see. Their interpretation of, well, everything is a godawful gemisch of fantasy and whatever is their half-assed inability to see what is legitimately there.
I'm not explaining it very well, but I've seen this all my life. And not for nuttin, I didn't watch television until my older childhood -- when I'd learned how to see the way nature intended. Coincidence? I think not.
By the time these people, so existentially and intellectually handicapped, reach college age, fuggedaboutit. The older they are, the dumber-downed the education needs to be.
Hence, the decreasing significance of the degree.
