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No degree, please.

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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    #1

    https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/college-elite

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • AxtremusA Away
      AxtremusA Away
      Axtremus
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      #2

      Whenever you need to see a doctor, make sure you see one with no degree.

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      • HoraceH Offline
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        #3

        show me some reasonably equivalent outcome measures between two different groups of primary health care providers, one degreed and one not, and I will not be in the least bit afraid to use the one not degreed.

        Education is extremely important.

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        • Aqua LetiferA Offline
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          Aqua Letifer
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          #4

          Yeah that'll just take off as an idea. At least when I play my mental masturbation games, I get to play with click-clack math rocks and slay ogres. Their game sounds so much more lame.

          Please love yourself.

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          • Doctor PhibesD Online
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            Doctor Phibes
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            #5

            Right, next time I hire an engineer, I won't bother asking for any qualifications. After all, who needs maths? Journalists don't, so why would anybody else?

            I was only joking

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            • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

              Right, next time I hire an engineer, I won't bother asking for any qualifications. After all, who needs maths? Journalists don't, so why would anybody else?

              Aqua LetiferA Offline
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              Aqua Letifer
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              #6

              @Doctor-Phibes said in No degree, please.:

              Right, next time I hire an engineer, I won't bother asking for any qualifications. After all, who needs maths? Journalists don't, so why would anybody else?

              Hey, now. 😄 Journalists do, it's just not on a piece of paper with blackletter script on it.

              Please love yourself.

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              • Doctor PhibesD Online
                Doctor PhibesD Online
                Doctor Phibes
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                #7

                What's funny is that the writer has a PhD in Communications, and is an assistant Professor of Media, Culture and Communication, assuming it's the same guy who pops up on Google.

                When he loses his job, he'll probably blame it on left-wing culture, rather than shitting all over his workplace.

                I was only joking

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                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                  What's funny is that the writer has a PhD in Communications, and is an assistant Professor of Media, Culture and Communication, assuming it's the same guy who pops up on Google.

                  When he loses his job, he'll probably blame it on left-wing culture, rather than shitting all over his workplace.

                  Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                  Aqua Letifer
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                  @Doctor-Phibes said in No degree, please.:

                  What's funny is that the writer has a PhD in Communications, and is an assistant Professor of Media, Culture and Communication, assuming it's the same guy who pops up on Google.

                  When he loses his job, he'll probably blame it on left-wing culture, rather than shitting all over his workplace.

                  Okay that's hilarious.

                  And "PhD in Communications" explains a hell of a lot.

                  Please love yourself.

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                  • Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                    Aqua Letifer
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                    #9

                    Also, how could this possibly be enforced? Just remove your degree from your resume. Good luck cross-referencing every public and private school's graduation data, over the span of about twenty years, because even if every single one gives you their list (and they're not, ever), your HR person is going to have to run that check for every applicant. And the process is convoluted and time-consuming enough as it is.

                    Please love yourself.

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                    • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                      Also, how could this possibly be enforced? Just remove your degree from your resume. Good luck cross-referencing every public and private school's graduation data, over the span of about twenty years, because even if every single one gives you their list (and they're not, ever), your HR person is going to have to run that check for every applicant. And the process is convoluted and time-consuming enough as it is.

                      Doctor PhibesD Online
                      Doctor PhibesD Online
                      Doctor Phibes
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                      #10

                      @Aqua-Letifer said in No degree, please.:

                      Also, how could this possibly be enforced? Just remove your degree from your resume. Good luck cross-referencing every public and private school's graduation data, over the span of about twenty years, because even if every single one gives you their list (and they're not, ever), your HR person is going to have to run that check for every applicant. And the process is convoluted and time-consuming enough as it is.

                      Possibly the Communications PhD and Video Games Scholar (I kid you not) didn't think of that.

                      I was only joking

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                        Aqua Letifer
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                        #11

                        @Doctor-Phibes Okay I'm looking this guy up. Please tell me there's a photo and it's exactly what I think it is.

                        Please love yourself.

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                          Aqua Letifer
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                          Okay I found some photos. This guy isn't a video games scholar. Trying to look like Dan Brown in your crappy online headshots and dabbling in Civ VI does not make you a video games scholar. If he's that, then I'm a fucking tea botanist.

                          Please love yourself.

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                          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                            Right, next time I hire an engineer, I won't bother asking for any qualifications. After all, who needs maths? Journalists don't, so why would anybody else?

                            JollyJ Offline
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                            Jolly
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                            #13

                            @Doctor-Phibes said in No degree, please.:

                            Right, next time I hire an engineer, I won't bother asking for any qualifications. After all, who needs maths? Journalists don't, so why would anybody else?

                            Didn't bother to read the essay, didya?

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • JollyJ Jolly

                              @Doctor-Phibes said in No degree, please.:

                              Right, next time I hire an engineer, I won't bother asking for any qualifications. After all, who needs maths? Journalists don't, so why would anybody else?

                              Didn't bother to read the essay, didya?

                              Doctor PhibesD Online
                              Doctor PhibesD Online
                              Doctor Phibes
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                              #14

                              @Jolly said in No degree, please.:

                              @Doctor-Phibes said in No degree, please.:

                              Right, next time I hire an engineer, I won't bother asking for any qualifications. After all, who needs maths? Journalists don't, so why would anybody else?

                              Didn't bother to read the essay, didya?

                              You mean this bit?

                              With the exception of doctors, engineers, and a handful of other professions that can be taught in dedicated schools, as is the case in most of the rest of the world there’s no single skill set you can acquire in any of America’s best universities these days that you’d actually need to perform any high-paying job in our contemporary economy

                              This is the same old tired argument about education being worthless. I wouldn't mind so much if he didn't describe himself as a video games scholar.

                              Handful of professions? Seriously? Try absolutely everything technical.

                              The problem with Communications people is they think they're actually the majority.

                              I was only joking

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                              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                @Jolly said in No degree, please.:

                                @Doctor-Phibes said in No degree, please.:

                                Right, next time I hire an engineer, I won't bother asking for any qualifications. After all, who needs maths? Journalists don't, so why would anybody else?

                                Didn't bother to read the essay, didya?

                                You mean this bit?

                                With the exception of doctors, engineers, and a handful of other professions that can be taught in dedicated schools, as is the case in most of the rest of the world there’s no single skill set you can acquire in any of America’s best universities these days that you’d actually need to perform any high-paying job in our contemporary economy

                                This is the same old tired argument about education being worthless. I wouldn't mind so much if he didn't describe himself as a video games scholar.

                                Handful of professions? Seriously? Try absolutely everything technical.

                                The problem with Communications people is they think they're actually the majority.

                                JollyJ Offline
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                                Jolly
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #15

                                @Doctor-Phibes said in No degree, please.:

                                @Jolly said in No degree, please.:

                                @Doctor-Phibes said in No degree, please.:

                                Right, next time I hire an engineer, I won't bother asking for any qualifications. After all, who needs maths? Journalists don't, so why would anybody else?

                                Didn't bother to read the essay, didya?

                                You mean this bit?

                                With the exception of doctors, engineers, and a handful of other professions that can be taught in dedicated schools, as is the case in most of the rest of the world there’s no single skill set you can acquire in any of America’s best universities these days that you’d actually need to perform any high-paying job in our contemporary economy

                                This is the same old tired argument about education being worthless. I wouldn't mind so much if he didn't describe himself as a video games scholar.

                                Handful of professions? Seriously? Try absolutely everything technical.

                                The problem with Communications people is they think they're actually the majority.

                                I know some pretty well paid IT people without a college degree....

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • Doctor PhibesD Online
                                  Doctor PhibesD Online
                                  Doctor Phibes
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                                  #16

                                  I know a few engineers without college degrees.

                                  The problem with the article is he's suggesting swapping one kind of stupid for an even more stupid kind of stupid.

                                  I was only joking

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                                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                    @Jolly said in No degree, please.:

                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in No degree, please.:

                                    Right, next time I hire an engineer, I won't bother asking for any qualifications. After all, who needs maths? Journalists don't, so why would anybody else?

                                    Didn't bother to read the essay, didya?

                                    You mean this bit?

                                    With the exception of doctors, engineers, and a handful of other professions that can be taught in dedicated schools, as is the case in most of the rest of the world there’s no single skill set you can acquire in any of America’s best universities these days that you’d actually need to perform any high-paying job in our contemporary economy

                                    This is the same old tired argument about education being worthless. I wouldn't mind so much if he didn't describe himself as a video games scholar.

                                    Handful of professions? Seriously? Try absolutely everything technical.

                                    The problem with Communications people is they think they're actually the majority.

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                                    Aqua LetiferA Offline
                                    Aqua Letifer
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                                    #17

                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in No degree, please.:

                                    @Jolly said in No degree, please.:

                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in No degree, please.:

                                    Right, next time I hire an engineer, I won't bother asking for any qualifications. After all, who needs maths? Journalists don't, so why would anybody else?

                                    Didn't bother to read the essay, didya?

                                    You mean this bit?

                                    With the exception of doctors, engineers, and a handful of other professions that can be taught in dedicated schools, as is the case in most of the rest of the world there’s no single skill set you can acquire in any of America’s best universities these days that you’d actually need to perform any high-paying job in our contemporary economy

                                    This is the same old tired argument about education being worthless. I wouldn't mind so much if he didn't describe himself as a video games scholar.

                                    It's the same argument that comes from internet rules lawyers and hobbyist gatekeepers who tell n00bs that they're doin' it wrong.

                                    I think that ivory tower academia wouldn't accept the likes of me, but there's nothing wrong with me, so I'm bitter about that. Therefore, I'm snide about education generally. Because I perceive it as a game I'm not allowed to play, even though I could. So I'll make a case that the competence games I do engage in have far more value than education, and I'm going to look for opportunities to shit on the latter. Makes me feel better about myself.

                                    It's shite. Railing against formal education is silly as railing against carpentry or deer hunting. Anyone without an agenda could see that you get out of it what you put into it.

                                    Please love yourself.

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                                    • JollyJ Jolly

                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in No degree, please.:

                                      @Jolly said in No degree, please.:

                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in No degree, please.:

                                      Right, next time I hire an engineer, I won't bother asking for any qualifications. After all, who needs maths? Journalists don't, so why would anybody else?

                                      Didn't bother to read the essay, didya?

                                      You mean this bit?

                                      With the exception of doctors, engineers, and a handful of other professions that can be taught in dedicated schools, as is the case in most of the rest of the world there’s no single skill set you can acquire in any of America’s best universities these days that you’d actually need to perform any high-paying job in our contemporary economy

                                      This is the same old tired argument about education being worthless. I wouldn't mind so much if he didn't describe himself as a video games scholar.

                                      Handful of professions? Seriously? Try absolutely everything technical.

                                      The problem with Communications people is they think they're actually the majority.

                                      I know some pretty well paid IT people without a college degree....

                                      Aqua LetiferA Offline
                                      Aqua LetiferA Offline
                                      Aqua Letifer
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                                      @Jolly said in No degree, please.:

                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in No degree, please.:

                                      @Jolly said in No degree, please.:

                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in No degree, please.:

                                      Right, next time I hire an engineer, I won't bother asking for any qualifications. After all, who needs maths? Journalists don't, so why would anybody else?

                                      Didn't bother to read the essay, didya?

                                      You mean this bit?

                                      With the exception of doctors, engineers, and a handful of other professions that can be taught in dedicated schools, as is the case in most of the rest of the world there’s no single skill set you can acquire in any of America’s best universities these days that you’d actually need to perform any high-paying job in our contemporary economy

                                      This is the same old tired argument about education being worthless. I wouldn't mind so much if he didn't describe himself as a video games scholar.

                                      Handful of professions? Seriously? Try absolutely everything technical.

                                      The problem with Communications people is they think they're actually the majority.

                                      I know some pretty well paid IT people without a college degree....

                                      One of the best journalists I've ever worked with was a cabinetmaker by trade. But that doesn't mean that if you have a degree then you're a silly SJW. That's as stupid as actually believing West Virginians have no teeth and marry their siblings.

                                      Please love yourself.

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                                      • Doctor PhibesD Online
                                        Doctor PhibesD Online
                                        Doctor Phibes
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                                        #19

                                        George Stephenson, the designer of the first steam engine, didn't have a degree.

                                        Neither did Thomas Andrews, the lead architect of The Titanic, nor for that matter did Adolf Hitler, the world-renowned social reformer.

                                        I was only joking

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                                          Jolly
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                                          #20

                                          But I do know more than one car salesman with a college degree...

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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