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  • taiwan_girlT Offline
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    Policitcs in the US is like a pendulum, even in the Democrat and Republic parties.

    Democrats go too far to the left - people vote republican and the deomcrats realize their mistake and move closert to the center for a while.

    Republicans go too far to the right - people vote Democrat and the republicans realize their mistake and move closer to the center for a while.

    Both parties eventually forget that and the pendulum swings too far again and the cycle repeats.

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    • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

      Policitcs in the US is like a pendulum, even in the Democrat and Republic parties.

      Democrats go too far to the left - people vote republican and the deomcrats realize their mistake and move closert to the center for a while.

      Republicans go too far to the right - people vote Democrat and the republicans realize their mistake and move closer to the center for a while.

      Both parties eventually forget that and the pendulum swings too far again and the cycle repeats.

      JollyJ Offline
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      Jolly
      wrote on last edited by
      #3

      @taiwan_girl said in The Shrinking List:

      Policitcs in the US is like a pendulum, even in the Democrat and Republic parties.

      Democrats go too far to the left - people vote republican and the deomcrats realize their mistake and move closert to the center for a while.

      Republicans go too far to the right - people vote Democrat and the republicans realize their mistake and move closer to the center for a while.

      Both parties eventually forget that and the pendulum swings too far again and the cycle repeats.

      True, but are the Trump policies too far right?

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        @taiwan_girl said in The Shrinking List:

        Policitcs in the US is like a pendulum, even in the Democrat and Republic parties.

        Democrats go too far to the left - people vote republican and the deomcrats realize their mistake and move closert to the center for a while.

        Republicans go too far to the right - people vote Democrat and the republicans realize their mistake and move closer to the center for a while.

        Both parties eventually forget that and the pendulum swings too far again and the cycle repeats.

        True, but are the Trump policies too far right?

        taiwan_girlT Offline
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        taiwan_girl
        wrote on last edited by
        #4

        @Jolly Good question. I think so, but not really sure.

        I will ask you this. How do you think President Trumps policies are vs. previous Republican presidents? I think you have a pretty good historical mind and would have a good idea

        To the left or right of:

        Bush jr.?
        Bush sr.?
        Reagan?
        Ford?
        Nixon?
        Eisenhower?
        etc

        If you believe that he is to the right of them all, then yes, probably President Trump is too far right.

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        • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

          @Jolly Good question. I think so, but not really sure.

          I will ask you this. How do you think President Trumps policies are vs. previous Republican presidents? I think you have a pretty good historical mind and would have a good idea

          To the left or right of:

          Bush jr.?
          Bush sr.?
          Reagan?
          Ford?
          Nixon?
          Eisenhower?
          etc

          If you believe that he is to the right of them all, then yes, probably President Trump is too far right.

          JollyJ Offline
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          Jolly
          wrote on last edited by
          #5

          @taiwan_girl said in The Shrinking List:

          @Jolly Good question. I think so, but not really sure.

          I will ask you this. How do you think President Trumps policies are vs. previous Republican presidents? I think you have a pretty good historical mind and would have a good idea

          To the left or right of:

          Bush jr.?
          Bush sr.?
          Reagan?
          Ford?
          Nixon?
          Eisenhower?
          etc

          If you believe that he is to the right of them all, then yes, probably President Trump is too far right.

          What do you think?

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • JollyJ Jolly

            @taiwan_girl said in The Shrinking List:

            @Jolly Good question. I think so, but not really sure.

            I will ask you this. How do you think President Trumps policies are vs. previous Republican presidents? I think you have a pretty good historical mind and would have a good idea

            To the left or right of:

            Bush jr.?
            Bush sr.?
            Reagan?
            Ford?
            Nixon?
            Eisenhower?
            etc

            If you believe that he is to the right of them all, then yes, probably President Trump is too far right.

            What do you think?

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            taiwan_girl
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            @Jolly I dont know enough about the older Republicans, but my initial thought would be

            Bush Jr - Trump to the right
            Bush sr. - Trump to the right
            Reagan - Trump to the right
            Ford - Trump to the right
            Nixon - ?? right on some things, left on others, probably slightly to the right overall
            Eisenhower - ?? No idea
            Hoover (is the next?) - dont know. Would have to study

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            • Doctor PhibesD Online
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              Doctor Phibes
              wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
              #7

              It's not necessarily the policies that make Trump stand out, but the words and tactics he uses.

              For example, many of us think that illegal immigration is a serious issue that needs to be addressed. Many of us don't believe that it's necessary to pander to racists when describing the kind of people that come here illegally.

              I was only joking

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              • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                @Jolly I dont know enough about the older Republicans, but my initial thought would be

                Bush Jr - Trump to the right
                Bush sr. - Trump to the right
                Reagan - Trump to the right
                Ford - Trump to the right
                Nixon - ?? right on some things, left on others, probably slightly to the right overall
                Eisenhower - ?? No idea
                Hoover (is the next?) - dont know. Would have to study

                JollyJ Offline
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                Jolly
                wrote on last edited by
                #8

                @taiwan_girl said in The Shrinking List:

                @Jolly I dont know enough about the older Republicans, but my initial thought would be

                Bush Jr - Trump to the right
                Bush sr. - Trump to the right
                Reagan - Trump to the right
                Ford - Trump to the right
                Nixon - ?? right on some things, left on others, probably slightly to the right overall
                Eisenhower - ?? No idea
                Hoover (is the next?) - dont know. Would have to study

                Trump's policies are not to the right of Reagan, Nixon or 41. I think he is to the right of Eisenhower and Ford. 43? I'm not sure.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  @taiwan_girl said in The Shrinking List:

                  @Jolly I dont know enough about the older Republicans, but my initial thought would be

                  Bush Jr - Trump to the right
                  Bush sr. - Trump to the right
                  Reagan - Trump to the right
                  Ford - Trump to the right
                  Nixon - ?? right on some things, left on others, probably slightly to the right overall
                  Eisenhower - ?? No idea
                  Hoover (is the next?) - dont know. Would have to study

                  Trump's policies are not to the right of Reagan, Nixon or 41. I think he is to the right of Eisenhower and Ford. 43? I'm not sure.

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                  taiwan_girl
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #9

                  @Jolly said in The Shrinking List:

                  @taiwan_girl said in The Shrinking List:

                  @Jolly I dont know enough about the older Republicans, but my initial thought would be

                  Bush Jr - Trump to the right
                  Bush sr. - Trump to the right
                  Reagan - Trump to the right
                  Ford - Trump to the right
                  Nixon - ?? right on some things, left on others, probably slightly to the right overall
                  Eisenhower - ?? No idea
                  Hoover (is the next?) - dont know. Would have to study

                  Trump's policies are not to the right of Reagan, Nixon or 41. I think he is to the right of Eisenhower and Ford. 43? I'm not sure.

                  The reason I put President Trump to the right of President Reagan was the President Reagan had a much more open world view, while President Trump is much isolation view.

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                  • Doctor PhibesD Online
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                    Doctor Phibes
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                    #10

                    Protectionism isn't a conservative policy.

                    I was only joking

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                    • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                      @Jolly said in The Shrinking List:

                      @taiwan_girl said in The Shrinking List:

                      @Jolly I dont know enough about the older Republicans, but my initial thought would be

                      Bush Jr - Trump to the right
                      Bush sr. - Trump to the right
                      Reagan - Trump to the right
                      Ford - Trump to the right
                      Nixon - ?? right on some things, left on others, probably slightly to the right overall
                      Eisenhower - ?? No idea
                      Hoover (is the next?) - dont know. Would have to study

                      Trump's policies are not to the right of Reagan, Nixon or 41. I think he is to the right of Eisenhower and Ford. 43? I'm not sure.

                      The reason I put President Trump to the right of President Reagan was the President Reagan had a much more open world view, while President Trump is much isolation view.

                      HoraceH Offline
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                      Horace
                      wrote on last edited by
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                      @taiwan_girl said in The Shrinking List:

                      @Jolly said in The Shrinking List:

                      @taiwan_girl said in The Shrinking List:

                      @Jolly I dont know enough about the older Republicans, but my initial thought would be

                      Bush Jr - Trump to the right
                      Bush sr. - Trump to the right
                      Reagan - Trump to the right
                      Ford - Trump to the right
                      Nixon - ?? right on some things, left on others, probably slightly to the right overall
                      Eisenhower - ?? No idea
                      Hoover (is the next?) - dont know. Would have to study

                      Trump's policies are not to the right of Reagan, Nixon or 41. I think he is to the right of Eisenhower and Ford. 43? I'm not sure.

                      The reason I put President Trump to the right of President Reagan was the President Reagan had a much more open world view, while President Trump is much isolation view.

                      If you have a certain destination in mind, whether you travel left or right to get there, depends on where you start. I think Reagan and Trump had different starting points. It doesn't necessarily indicate a different destination.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                        @Jolly I would be curious to know why you think President Reagan was to the right of President Trump

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                        • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                          @Jolly I would be curious to know why you think President Reagan was to the right of President Trump

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                          Jolly
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #13

                          @taiwan_girl said in The Shrinking List:

                          @Jolly I would be curious to know why you think President Reagan was to the right of President Trump

                          The 11 Principles:

                          https://www.theblaze.com/news/2014/03/03/the-11-principles-of-a-reagan-conservative

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                            It's not necessarily the policies that make Trump stand out, but the words and tactics he uses.

                            For example, many of us think that illegal immigration is a serious issue that needs to be addressed. Many of us don't believe that it's necessary to pander to racists when describing the kind of people that come here illegally.

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                            Renauda
                            wrote on last edited by Renauda
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                            @Doctor-Phibes

                            It's not necessarily the policies that make Trump stand out, but the words and tactics he uses.

                            Somehow that aspect gets lost or conveniently excused in the squelch surrounding Trump’s self promoted greatness.

                            Elbows up!

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