The Shrinking List
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Policitcs in the US is like a pendulum, even in the Democrat and Republic parties.
Democrats go too far to the left - people vote republican and the deomcrats realize their mistake and move closert to the center for a while.
Republicans go too far to the right - people vote Democrat and the republicans realize their mistake and move closer to the center for a while.
Both parties eventually forget that and the pendulum swings too far again and the cycle repeats.
wrote on 12 Aug 2022, 13:53 last edited by@taiwan_girl said in The Shrinking List:
Policitcs in the US is like a pendulum, even in the Democrat and Republic parties.
Democrats go too far to the left - people vote republican and the deomcrats realize their mistake and move closert to the center for a while.
Republicans go too far to the right - people vote Democrat and the republicans realize their mistake and move closer to the center for a while.
Both parties eventually forget that and the pendulum swings too far again and the cycle repeats.
True, but are the Trump policies too far right?
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@taiwan_girl said in The Shrinking List:
Policitcs in the US is like a pendulum, even in the Democrat and Republic parties.
Democrats go too far to the left - people vote republican and the deomcrats realize their mistake and move closert to the center for a while.
Republicans go too far to the right - people vote Democrat and the republicans realize their mistake and move closer to the center for a while.
Both parties eventually forget that and the pendulum swings too far again and the cycle repeats.
True, but are the Trump policies too far right?
wrote on 12 Aug 2022, 14:23 last edited by@Jolly Good question. I think so, but not really sure.
I will ask you this. How do you think President Trumps policies are vs. previous Republican presidents? I think you have a pretty good historical mind and would have a good idea
To the left or right of:
Bush jr.?
Bush sr.?
Reagan?
Ford?
Nixon?
Eisenhower?
etcIf you believe that he is to the right of them all, then yes, probably President Trump is too far right.
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@Jolly Good question. I think so, but not really sure.
I will ask you this. How do you think President Trumps policies are vs. previous Republican presidents? I think you have a pretty good historical mind and would have a good idea
To the left or right of:
Bush jr.?
Bush sr.?
Reagan?
Ford?
Nixon?
Eisenhower?
etcIf you believe that he is to the right of them all, then yes, probably President Trump is too far right.
wrote on 12 Aug 2022, 14:27 last edited by@taiwan_girl said in The Shrinking List:
@Jolly Good question. I think so, but not really sure.
I will ask you this. How do you think President Trumps policies are vs. previous Republican presidents? I think you have a pretty good historical mind and would have a good idea
To the left or right of:
Bush jr.?
Bush sr.?
Reagan?
Ford?
Nixon?
Eisenhower?
etcIf you believe that he is to the right of them all, then yes, probably President Trump is too far right.
What do you think?
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@taiwan_girl said in The Shrinking List:
@Jolly Good question. I think so, but not really sure.
I will ask you this. How do you think President Trumps policies are vs. previous Republican presidents? I think you have a pretty good historical mind and would have a good idea
To the left or right of:
Bush jr.?
Bush sr.?
Reagan?
Ford?
Nixon?
Eisenhower?
etcIf you believe that he is to the right of them all, then yes, probably President Trump is too far right.
What do you think?
wrote on 12 Aug 2022, 14:39 last edited by@Jolly I dont know enough about the older Republicans, but my initial thought would be
Bush Jr - Trump to the right
Bush sr. - Trump to the right
Reagan - Trump to the right
Ford - Trump to the right
Nixon - ?? right on some things, left on others, probably slightly to the right overall
Eisenhower - ?? No idea
Hoover (is the next?) - dont know. Would have to study -
wrote on 12 Aug 2022, 14:45 last edited by Doctor Phibes 8 Dec 2022, 14:46
It's not necessarily the policies that make Trump stand out, but the words and tactics he uses.
For example, many of us think that illegal immigration is a serious issue that needs to be addressed. Many of us don't believe that it's necessary to pander to racists when describing the kind of people that come here illegally.
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@Jolly I dont know enough about the older Republicans, but my initial thought would be
Bush Jr - Trump to the right
Bush sr. - Trump to the right
Reagan - Trump to the right
Ford - Trump to the right
Nixon - ?? right on some things, left on others, probably slightly to the right overall
Eisenhower - ?? No idea
Hoover (is the next?) - dont know. Would have to studywrote on 12 Aug 2022, 14:49 last edited by@taiwan_girl said in The Shrinking List:
@Jolly I dont know enough about the older Republicans, but my initial thought would be
Bush Jr - Trump to the right
Bush sr. - Trump to the right
Reagan - Trump to the right
Ford - Trump to the right
Nixon - ?? right on some things, left on others, probably slightly to the right overall
Eisenhower - ?? No idea
Hoover (is the next?) - dont know. Would have to studyTrump's policies are not to the right of Reagan, Nixon or 41. I think he is to the right of Eisenhower and Ford. 43? I'm not sure.
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@taiwan_girl said in The Shrinking List:
@Jolly I dont know enough about the older Republicans, but my initial thought would be
Bush Jr - Trump to the right
Bush sr. - Trump to the right
Reagan - Trump to the right
Ford - Trump to the right
Nixon - ?? right on some things, left on others, probably slightly to the right overall
Eisenhower - ?? No idea
Hoover (is the next?) - dont know. Would have to studyTrump's policies are not to the right of Reagan, Nixon or 41. I think he is to the right of Eisenhower and Ford. 43? I'm not sure.
wrote on 12 Aug 2022, 14:53 last edited by@Jolly said in The Shrinking List:
@taiwan_girl said in The Shrinking List:
@Jolly I dont know enough about the older Republicans, but my initial thought would be
Bush Jr - Trump to the right
Bush sr. - Trump to the right
Reagan - Trump to the right
Ford - Trump to the right
Nixon - ?? right on some things, left on others, probably slightly to the right overall
Eisenhower - ?? No idea
Hoover (is the next?) - dont know. Would have to studyTrump's policies are not to the right of Reagan, Nixon or 41. I think he is to the right of Eisenhower and Ford. 43? I'm not sure.
The reason I put President Trump to the right of President Reagan was the President Reagan had a much more open world view, while President Trump is much isolation view.
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wrote on 12 Aug 2022, 14:58 last edited by
Protectionism isn't a conservative policy.
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@Jolly said in The Shrinking List:
@taiwan_girl said in The Shrinking List:
@Jolly I dont know enough about the older Republicans, but my initial thought would be
Bush Jr - Trump to the right
Bush sr. - Trump to the right
Reagan - Trump to the right
Ford - Trump to the right
Nixon - ?? right on some things, left on others, probably slightly to the right overall
Eisenhower - ?? No idea
Hoover (is the next?) - dont know. Would have to studyTrump's policies are not to the right of Reagan, Nixon or 41. I think he is to the right of Eisenhower and Ford. 43? I'm not sure.
The reason I put President Trump to the right of President Reagan was the President Reagan had a much more open world view, while President Trump is much isolation view.
wrote on 12 Aug 2022, 14:59 last edited by@taiwan_girl said in The Shrinking List:
@Jolly said in The Shrinking List:
@taiwan_girl said in The Shrinking List:
@Jolly I dont know enough about the older Republicans, but my initial thought would be
Bush Jr - Trump to the right
Bush sr. - Trump to the right
Reagan - Trump to the right
Ford - Trump to the right
Nixon - ?? right on some things, left on others, probably slightly to the right overall
Eisenhower - ?? No idea
Hoover (is the next?) - dont know. Would have to studyTrump's policies are not to the right of Reagan, Nixon or 41. I think he is to the right of Eisenhower and Ford. 43? I'm not sure.
The reason I put President Trump to the right of President Reagan was the President Reagan had a much more open world view, while President Trump is much isolation view.
If you have a certain destination in mind, whether you travel left or right to get there, depends on where you start. I think Reagan and Trump had different starting points. It doesn't necessarily indicate a different destination.
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wrote on 12 Aug 2022, 15:06 last edited by
@Jolly I would be curious to know why you think President Reagan was to the right of President Trump
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@Jolly I would be curious to know why you think President Reagan was to the right of President Trump
wrote on 12 Aug 2022, 16:58 last edited by@taiwan_girl said in The Shrinking List:
@Jolly I would be curious to know why you think President Reagan was to the right of President Trump
The 11 Principles:
https://www.theblaze.com/news/2014/03/03/the-11-principles-of-a-reagan-conservative
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It's not necessarily the policies that make Trump stand out, but the words and tactics he uses.
For example, many of us think that illegal immigration is a serious issue that needs to be addressed. Many of us don't believe that it's necessary to pander to racists when describing the kind of people that come here illegally.
wrote on 13 Aug 2022, 16:05 last edited by RenaudaIt's not necessarily the policies that make Trump stand out, but the words and tactics he uses.
Somehow that aspect gets lost or conveniently excused in the squelch surrounding Trump’s self promoted greatness.