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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
    wrote on last edited by
    #121

    Be it voluntary or not, it's becoming more clear that the raid was not about classified documents.

    Especially after the congress critter's phone was taken.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • jon-nycJ Offline
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      jon-nyc
      wrote on last edited by
      #122

      Only non-witches get due process.

      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      • George KG Offline
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        George K
        wrote on last edited by George K
        #123

        Off topic...

        ""We just want to go on record that anything bad they found is planted" is the sort of message you can get away with if your target audience is culty and dumb."

        Worked for OJ, didn't it?

        Because lawyers gotta lawyer, right?

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • George KG George K

          Off topic...

          ""We just want to go on record that anything bad they found is planted" is the sort of message you can get away with if your target audience is culty and dumb."

          Worked for OJ, didn't it?

          Because lawyers gotta lawyer, right?

          jon-nycJ Offline
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          jon-nyc
          wrote on last edited by
          #124

          @George-K

          Yes and for the same reason. Dumb at least.

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            @George-K

            Yes and for the same reason. Dumb at least.

            George KG Offline
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            George K
            wrote on last edited by
            #125

            @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

            @George-K

            Yes and for the same reason. Dumb at least.

            If you're going to make that kind of statement, you better have iron-clad evidence.

            Unless, of course, you're speaking to the public and not the court.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • HoraceH Offline
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              Horace
              wrote on last edited by Horace
              #126

              The FBI has been shown to have faked evidence in the past, in its pursuit of Trump. Not that I think it's plausible that they'll do it with this sort of spotlight on the situation, but let's be fair to those who don't trust this process.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • George KG George K

                @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                @George-K

                Yes and for the same reason. Dumb at least.

                If you're going to make that kind of statement, you better have iron-clad evidence.

                Unless, of course, you're speaking to the public and not the court.

                Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                Doctor Phibes
                wrote on last edited by
                #127

                @George-K said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                @George-K

                Yes and for the same reason. Dumb at least.

                If you're going to make that kind of statement, you better have iron-clad evidence.

                Unless, of course, you're speaking to the public and not the court.

                It's worth noting that Trump doesn't exactly have a stellar record in his choice of attorneys.

                I was only joking

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                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                  @George-K said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                  @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                  @George-K

                  Yes and for the same reason. Dumb at least.

                  If you're going to make that kind of statement, you better have iron-clad evidence.

                  Unless, of course, you're speaking to the public and not the court.

                  It's worth noting that Trump doesn't exactly have a stellar record in his choice of attorneys.

                  George KG Offline
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                  George K
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #128

                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                  It's worth noting that Trump doesn't exactly have a stellar record in his choice of attorneys.

                  There are so many responses queued up...

                  A simple LOL will have to suffice.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • jon-nycJ Offline
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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                    #129

                    @Horace - One guy at the DOJ did and got a felony conviction for his efforts.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    • HoraceH Horace

                      The FBI has been shown to have faked evidence in the past, in its pursuit of Trump. Not that I think it's plausible that they'll do it with this sort of spotlight on the situation, but let's be fair to those who don't trust this process.

                      jon-nycJ Offline
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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #130

                      @Horace said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                      The FBI has been shown to have faked evidence in the past, in its pursuit of Trump. Not that I think it's plausible that they'll do it with this sort of spotlight on the situation, but let's be fair to those who don't trust this process.

                      That is a charitable argument. I’m curious if you would apply the analogous version of it to the jury in the OJ case too.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        @Horace - One guy at the DOJ did and got a felony conviction for his efforts.

                        HoraceH Offline
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                        Horace
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                        #131

                        @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                        @Horace - One guy at the DOJ did and got a felony conviction for his efforts.

                        Right, a lawyer working for the FBI faked some evidence to facilitate an investigation into Trump and Russia.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          @Horace said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                          The FBI has been shown to have faked evidence in the past, in its pursuit of Trump. Not that I think it's plausible that they'll do it with this sort of spotlight on the situation, but let's be fair to those who don't trust this process.

                          That is a charitable argument. I’m curious if you would apply the analogous version of it to the jury in the OJ case too.

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                          Horace
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #132

                          @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                          @Horace said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                          The FBI has been shown to have faked evidence in the past, in its pursuit of Trump. Not that I think it's plausible that they'll do it with this sort of spotlight on the situation, but let's be fair to those who don't trust this process.

                          That is a charitable argument. I’m curious if you would apply the analogous version of it to the jury in the OJ case too.

                          You quoted me saying I don't think it's plausible that they'll plant evidence in this situation. I am trying to humanize those who might have suspicions in that direction, perhaps unsuccessfully. I'm trying to encourage us all to have more compassion for others. It's important to me, one of my primary principles. Caring for others.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                          • HoraceH Horace

                            @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                            @Horace said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                            The FBI has been shown to have faked evidence in the past, in its pursuit of Trump. Not that I think it's plausible that they'll do it with this sort of spotlight on the situation, but let's be fair to those who don't trust this process.

                            That is a charitable argument. I’m curious if you would apply the analogous version of it to the jury in the OJ case too.

                            You quoted me saying I don't think it's plausible that they'll plant evidence in this situation. I am trying to humanize those who might have suspicions in that direction, perhaps unsuccessfully. I'm trying to encourage us all to have more compassion for others. It's important to me, one of my primary principles. Caring for others.

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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #133

                            @Horace

                            Fair enough. And it’s a charitable view. An analogous argument can be and was used in defense of the OJ jury. I was curious if you’ve applied it to them.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

                            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                              jon-nycJ Offline
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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                              #134

                              @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                              The thing to remember when listening to her is that she knows exactly what the FBI was looking for and why, and presumably what they found, at least of her client’s team is being honest with her.

                              So the fact that she’s casting aspersions is not a good sign for team Trump. She’s pretending to speak in hypothetical terms, but she almost certainly knows what they found.

                              Popcorn, please.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

                              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                @Horace

                                Fair enough. And it’s a charitable view. An analogous argument can be and was used in defense of the OJ jury. I was curious if you’ve applied it to them.

                                HoraceH Offline
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                                Horace
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #135

                                @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                @Horace

                                Fair enough. And it’s a charitable view. An analogous argument can be and was used in defense of the OJ jury. I was curious if you’ve applied it to them.

                                What, that people have emotions around bad cop behavior? As an inhabitant of reality, I acknowledge that in all situations.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                • JollyJ Jolly

                                  The Dersh speaks:

                                  https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/3594412-justice-department-should-have-subpoenaed-documents-not-raided-trumps-home/amp/

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                                  jon-nyc
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                                  #136

                                  @Jolly said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                  The Dersh speaks:

                                  https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/3594412-justice-department-should-have-subpoenaed-documents-not-raided-trumps-home/amp/

                                  I don’t know why people listen to Dersch or Tribe on the left. They’re simply old guys who harvested their former reputation in service of partisan ends. They are literally paid partisan shills.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

                                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                    @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                    The thing to remember when listening to her is that she knows exactly what the FBI was looking for and why, and presumably what they found, at least of her client’s team is being honest with her.

                                    So the fact that she’s casting aspersions is not a good sign for team Trump. She’s pretending to speak in hypothetical terms, but she almost certainly knows what they found.

                                    Popcorn, please.

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                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                                    #137

                                    @jon-nyc said in Mar-a-Lago raided:

                                    The thing to remember when listening to her is that she knows exactly what the FBI was looking for and why, and presumably what they found, at least of her client’s team is being honest with her.

                                    So the fact that she’s casting aspersions is not a good sign for team Trump. She’s pretending to speak in hypothetical terms, but she almost certainly knows what they found.

                                    Popcorn, please.

                                    Also their messaging pretty much guarantees this isn’t merely about classified docs. After all, they have a defense for that - the president is the ultimate authority on classification and can declassify anything at will.

                                    The “they planted evidence” messaging that they are rolling out means this is about very specific crimes.

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

                                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                    • JollyJ Offline
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                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #138

                                      At least the FBI got to sniff Me!ania's panties.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #139

                                        Didn’t she used to sell them on eBay during her soft porn phase?

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

                                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                        • JollyJ Offline
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                                          Jolly
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #140

                                          Don't know about that. You bought some?

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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