Mar-a-Lago raided
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Well, the judge has received a lot of heat for possible bias.
I say release it.
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There will be no there there but for some technical illegalities that it was literally the judge’s job to not ignore. I’m sure there was a point for discretion about whether to pursue a search warrant, but that point was before the documentation landed on the judge’s desk. That point would have been where the bias came in, if any.
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@Mik said in Mar-a-Lago raided:
We deserve to know what is behind this.
Agreed, although I do respect operational or intelligence reasons to keep things secure until the investigation is either complete or at a stage where the revelation of details is appropriate.
My prediction is there will be a very good reason why the FBI took this action, and there will also be a good portion of the country who won't care, even if there is a smoking gun. Biden won by 7 million votes and a Trump-defined landslide of electoral votes, but a good chunk of the country isn't swayed by those facts either.
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@Mik said in Mar-a-Lago raided:
We deserve to know what is behind this.
Unsealed, but with redactions:
The affidavit central to the FBI’s search of former President Trump’s Florida home will remain under seal for at least another week, a federal judge ruled Thursday, giving the Justice Department seven days to redact the detailed document in a way that would not undermine its ongoing investigation if made public.
The judge, who signaled he is willing to unseal some of the document, said from the bench that he would make a determination next Thursday.
Federal Magistrate Judge Bruce E. Reinhart convened the hearing Thursday after multiple media outlets, including the Washington Post, called on the court to release all filings related to the search for classified documents at Mar-A-Lago, Trump’s Florida home and residence.The Justice Department has been adamant that the affidavit should remain sealed. A Justice Department official told the judge Thursday that its investigation is “open and in its early stages.” Unsealing the document now, the government contends, “would provide a roadmap and suggest next investigative steps we are about to take.”
Attorneys for several media outlets have argued that the affidavit should be made public given he “historic importance” of the Justice Department’s investigation.
“Transparency serves the public interest in understanding and accepting the results. That’s good for the government and for the court,” Charles Tobin, a lawyer for the media outlets, said in court on Thursday. “You can’t trust what you cannot see.”
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Yep.
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"My pronouns are FA/FO." - Mik, 2024
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@Mik said in Mar-a-Lago raided:
I'll tell you what, I do not want Trump to be the candidate in 2024, but if they come up empty handed against him again, I may have to change my mind on voting for him.
I'm thinking about changing citizenship. But I'll still live here and be quite vocal about how my own country is so much better. It won't fix things, but it'll invite some irate trolling, which would at least be entertaining.
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@Mik said in Mar-a-Lago raided:
You kind of have to wonder if he didn't orchestrate the whole thing. He's a cagey son of a buck.
Easy to imagine. If he knows there’s no there there, at least politically if not legally, and it dawned on him that some bureaucrats were getting uppity about some boxes, he might have done the math about the political fallout if he called their hand. It doesn’t have to be much of a plan, just an opportunistic play that the government handed to him.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in Mar-a-Lago raided:
I'm thinking about changing citizenship.
To where? Being the reprobate you are, who the hell would take you? I mean, the family has a good chance, but you???
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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@George-K said in Mar-a-Lago raided:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Mar-a-Lago raided:
I'm thinking about changing citizenship.
To where? Being the reprobate you are, who the hell would take you? I mean, the family has a good chance, but you???
My family's my in.
Please love yourself.
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"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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@George-K said in Mar-a-Lago raided:
@Aqua-Letifer said in Mar-a-Lago raided:
My family's my in.
Fucking anchor babies.
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@Mik said in Mar-a-Lago raided:
It will say he had classified and secret documents, which we already know.
Andy McCarthy makes some interesting points. The tl;dr version:
we are a ways away from seeing even a comma of the affidavit, and that still may not happen
affidavits often do not become public until months later, when indicted defendants make motions to suppress evidence seized pursuant to the warrant.
It is a closely held document because it provides information from people who may be covertly cooperating with the government.
He (Garland) said, for example, that the Justice Department routinely uses the evidence-collection method that is least intrusive under the circumstances, and that its searches are narrowly tailored to collect relevant evidence. The case, however, involves not only the unprecedented execution of a search warrant against a former U.S. president, but the most intrusive kind of search — a search in someone’s home, and all its most private places, by more than two dozen FBI agents.
the warrant was the antithesis of a narrow tailoring, authorizing agents to scoop up every scrap of paper generated during the four years of the Trump administration. Then, it became manifest that the agents had not done a careful, methodical job — despite the breadth of the warrant, it clearly did not cover Trump’s passports, but the FBI took them anyway. That suggests the bureau indiscriminately grabbed things ...
Still another unforced error: In arguing that disclosure of the warrant affidavit could mortally wound their investigation, prosecutors told Reinhart that they were still at an early stage of their probe. I imagine this was just a sloppy way of saying they were not yet at the point of deciding whether to file charges. Nevertheless, they just performed an unprecedented search of a former president’s home, under circumstances in which the AG claims that DOJ tries not to be gratuitously intrusive. Is that really the kind of drastic step you take early in an investigation? If investigators were in the early stages, why didn’t they attempt less intrusive means of obtaining the records in Trump’s possession?
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You do illogical things when you are mad or scared.
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