It does not add up
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I personally know a teacher that has her Master’s Degree in Clarinet. She is currently a 3rd grade Music Appreciation Teacher. She’s been doing so for 15 years and with one extracurricular role added on after school, she is making six figures.
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The whole “teachers are underpaid” trope is just that. It’s something we hear so often that we just accept it. Some teachers ARE underpaid. Other teachers are vastly overpaid. It’s an individual situation that can vary district by district and teacher by teacher.
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The degree requirements for public school administrations has become ridiculous. I live in a district that requires a Doctorate for ES Principal…
wrote on 3 Aug 2022, 02:28 last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in It does not add up:
I personally know a teacher that has her Master’s Degree in Clarinet. She is currently a 3rd grade Music Appreciation Teacher. She’s been doing so for 15 years and with one extracurricular role added on after school, she is making six figures.
Does she teach in a public school or a private school?
Does her “six figure” income all attributable solely to her school teacher job or does the “six figure” include other sources of income? -
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@LuFins-Dad said in It does not add up:
I personally know a teacher that has her Master’s Degree in Clarinet. She is currently a 3rd grade Music Appreciation Teacher. She’s been doing so for 15 years and with one extracurricular role added on after school, she is making six figures.
Does she teach in a public school or a private school?
Does her “six figure” income all attributable solely to her school teacher job or does the “six figure” include other sources of income?wrote on 3 Aug 2022, 02:38 last edited by@Axtremus said in It does not add up:
@LuFins-Dad said in It does not add up:
I personally know a teacher that has her Master’s Degree in Clarinet. She is currently a 3rd grade Music Appreciation Teacher. She’s been doing so for 15 years and with one extracurricular role added on after school, she is making six figures.
Does she teach in a public school or a private school?
Does her “six figure” income all attributable solely to her school teacher job or does the “six figure” include other sources of income?Public. $94k salary and $7700 for an extracurricular role.
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wrote on 3 Aug 2022, 03:11 last edited by
Ain't nobody down here, except for the Superintendent of the district, making that kind of money. And he's got 23,000 students in the parish.
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Ain't nobody down here, except for the Superintendent of the district, making that kind of money. And he's got 23,000 students in the parish.
wrote on 3 Aug 2022, 04:27 last edited by LuFins Dad 8 Mar 2022, 11:48@Jolly said in It does not add up:
Ain't nobody down here, except for the Superintendent of the district, making that kind of money. And he's got 23,000 students in the parish.
Which is why I said you can’t just make blanket statements like “teachers are underpaid”.
I’m not saying that they aren’t underpaid where you are at, but the median teacher salary is over $60K, while the median individual salary is $54K. I have no problem with teachers making 10% over the average.
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wrote on 3 Aug 2022, 10:55 last edited by
Teaching pay is historically based more on inputs than outputs. One of those inputs is degrees. So they get more of them.
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wrote on 3 Aug 2022, 12:04 last edited by
Shouldn't be. A teaching degree does not mean a person can teach.
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wrote on 4 Aug 2022, 11:42 last edited by
https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/08/03/school-teacher-shortage/
“America faces catastrophic teacher shortage”
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wrote on 4 Aug 2022, 12:01 last edited by Jolly 8 Apr 2022, 12:04
Didn't read the link, but I'm sure it varies from district to district.
Take DeSoto Parish as an example. They have their pick of teachers, even though they are adjacent to a much bigger district (Caddo). It's because they pay better and they don't have inner city schools.
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wrote on 4 Aug 2022, 12:10 last edited by
Thinking back on some of the San Francisco news...
Maybe one way to attract teachers would be to provide housing. Maybe a small development of three bedroom cottages, one and two bedroom townhouses, either in one location or scattered in two or three places within a district.
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Didn't read the link, but I'm sure it varies from district to district.
Take DeSoto Parish as an example. They have their pick of teachers, even though they are adjacent to a much bigger district (Caddo). It's because they pay better and they don't have inner city schools.
wrote on 4 Aug 2022, 12:25 last edited by Axtremus 8 Apr 2022, 12:25@Jolly said in It does not add up:
... but I'm sure it varies from district to district.
True, though the lack of systematic gathering/reporting of teacher demand/supply data in most states makes it nigh impossible to get a handle on where the shortages are.