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Ordered a wood burner

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  • KlausK Offline
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    Klaus
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    #1

    I don't want to be in a cold house this winter because our leaders are too damn incompetent to make sure we have enough gas and energy. According to various projections, gas prices will rise by a factor of 7 or we may even get no gas at all.

    So, this is being installed in the coming weeks.

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    As always in Germany, it's quite a bureaucratic and expensive hassle to install. E.g., the air for the stove needs to come from outside to not interfere with the heat-recovery ventilation in an otherwise airtight house.

    We even considered to heat our whole house with wood, but we are deferring that for a while.

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    • KlausK Offline
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      One of the cool things about it is that it has about 100kg of stones attached to it, which act as a buffer for the heat.

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      • JollyJ Offline
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        Jolly
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        That's neat.

        That stove will have a learning curve, because of the thermal mass. I think you are really going to enjoy it!

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • MikM Away
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          Mik
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          #4

          Dang. I thought you were going to start BBQing.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • JollyJ Offline
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            #5

            One stick of wood at a time, my friend...

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • MikM Away
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              Mik
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              #6

              HopeSmoke springs eternal.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • MikM Mik

                Dang. I thought you were going to start BBQing.

                KlausK Offline
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                @Mik said in Ordered a wood burner:

                Dang. I thought you were going to start BBQing.

                Of course we have a BBQ thing too. Unless you mean one of these huge American things were you let meat cook for many hours (Smokers?) - yes, we don't have that one.

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                • MikM Away
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                  ..yet....

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • MikM Away
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                    Mik
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                    Hey Klaus! It's your HERITAGE!!!!

                    I should not be surprised. Texas was largely settled by German immigrants.

                    https://www.thespruceeats.com/german-barbecue-cooking-335803

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • MikM Away
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                      Mik
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                      #10

                      Note: My best friend lives in New Braunfels. I've had plenty of BBQ there and in Fredricksburg, among many other towns. I had no idea it had German origins.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • MikM Mik

                        Hey Klaus! It's your HERITAGE!!!!

                        I should not be surprised. Texas was largely settled by German immigrants.

                        https://www.thespruceeats.com/german-barbecue-cooking-335803

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                        @Mik said in Ordered a wood burner:

                        Hey Klaus! It's your HERITAGE!!!!

                        I should not be surprised. Texas was largely settled by German immigrants.

                        https://www.thespruceeats.com/german-barbecue-cooking-335803

                        Hm, I think that's a culture that was then invented by the immigrants. It doesn't really stem from here.

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                        • MikM Away
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                          Mik
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                          It in your blood. Get it in your yard. 😜

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          • JollyJ Offline
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                            Jolly
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                            #13

                            Doesn't have to be huge. I like off-set and I like to burn wood, preferably oak mixed with a flavor wood like crabapple.

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                            Mik knows better than I do, but I want something thick enough to stand up to several years of use. You might like a barrel smoke, instead.

                            But fair warning, the smoke bug is addictive.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • George KG Offline
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                              George K
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                              That looks awesome.

                              Couple of questions:

                              1. BTU specs? How much heat does it put out? Our wood-burning fireplace was about 15K BTU, iirc.

                              2. Is getting firewood going to be a hassle? Be careful of non-seasoned (for destination) wet wood. It won't burn well and leave a residue of crap. Seasoned, dry wood will have a distinctive "ring" when you hit it on a hard surface. Wet wood will give you a thud.

                              3. How much hassle will an installation be?

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • George KG George K

                                That looks awesome.

                                Couple of questions:

                                1. BTU specs? How much heat does it put out? Our wood-burning fireplace was about 15K BTU, iirc.

                                2. Is getting firewood going to be a hassle? Be careful of non-seasoned (for destination) wet wood. It won't burn well and leave a residue of crap. Seasoned, dry wood will have a distinctive "ring" when you hit it on a hard surface. Wet wood will give you a thud.

                                3. How much hassle will an installation be?

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                                Klaus
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                                #15

                                @George-K said in Ordered a wood burner:

                                That looks awesome.

                                Couple of questions:

                                1. BTU specs? How much heat does it put out? Our wood-burning fireplace was about 15K BTU, iirc.

                                We don't use BTU but KW. It can produce between 3 and 7 KW of heat, depending on air flow. I believe that would be something like 10K to 30K BTU.

                                1. Is getting firewood going to be a hassle? Be careful of non-seasoned (for destination) wet wood. It won't burn well and leave a residue of crap. Seasoned, dry wood will have a distinctive "ring" when you hit it on a hard surface. Wet wood will give you a thud.

                                Yes, it's going to be a hassle. Not surprisingly, people are buying firewood like crazy. It's hard to get (many dealers are out of stock), and what's available is very expensive.

                                1. How much hassle will an installation be?

                                Quite a hassle. We need to install a chimney that will look something like this:

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                                The stove itself is around $3K, but the whole installation will cost upwards of $12K.

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                                  I also heat by wood but I live in the fucking Middle East and it never goes below freezing in my neck of the woods and wood burning season is only about end of November to beginning of March. Temps at nite 4-10 degrees C.

                                  But I just love messing around with it, splitting for kindling, the smell of wood burn in the house. But it’s more for ambiance than anything else. We certainly don’t have a sealed off house.

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                                    The wood burner looks good, but the tubular metal chimney does not look as good. :man-shrugging:

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                                    • bachophileB bachophile

                                      I also heat by wood but I live in the fucking Middle East and it never goes below freezing in my neck of the woods and wood burning season is only about end of November to beginning of March. Temps at nite 4-10 degrees C.

                                      But I just love messing around with it, splitting for kindling, the smell of wood burn in the house. But it’s more for ambiance than anything else. We certainly don’t have a sealed off house.

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                                      @bachophile said in Ordered a wood burner:

                                      We certainly don’t have a sealed off house.

                                      Over here they are more or less mandatory if you build new.

                                      It has some advantages, especially when it comes to cost for heating, but you also basically have to have some kind of elaborate ventilation system if you want to keep the air dry and fresh.

                                      That's a part of the reason why, deep into the upper middle class, people can't afford to build a house or even just a flat anymore.

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                                      • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                        The wood burner looks good, but the tubular metal chimney does not look as good. :man-shrugging:

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                                        @Axtremus said in Ordered a wood burner:

                                        The wood burner looks good, but the tubular metal chimney does not look as good. :man-shrugging:

                                        I agree, but that's the only option where the costs aren't completely ridiculous. Maybe that's a disadvantage of a brick-and-concrete house. Also, we rarely ever see that side of the house.

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                                        • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                          The wood burner looks good, but the tubular metal chimney does not look as good. :man-shrugging:

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                                          @Axtremus said in Ordered a wood burner:

                                          The wood burner looks good, but the tubular metal chimney does not look as good. :man-shrugging:

                                          I actually think it looks pretty cool, or at least...looks European based on my extensive researching watching House Hunters International on HGTV. I wonder how long it retains its chrome/shine?

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