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  • G George K
    2 Aug 2022, 21:49

    That looks awesome.

    Couple of questions:

    1. BTU specs? How much heat does it put out? Our wood-burning fireplace was about 15K BTU, iirc.

    2. Is getting firewood going to be a hassle? Be careful of non-seasoned (for destination) wet wood. It won't burn well and leave a residue of crap. Seasoned, dry wood will have a distinctive "ring" when you hit it on a hard surface. Wet wood will give you a thud.

    3. How much hassle will an installation be?

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    Klaus
    wrote on 2 Aug 2022, 23:11 last edited by Klaus 8 Feb 2022, 23:13
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    @George-K said in Ordered a wood burner:

    That looks awesome.

    Couple of questions:

    1. BTU specs? How much heat does it put out? Our wood-burning fireplace was about 15K BTU, iirc.

    We don't use BTU but KW. It can produce between 3 and 7 KW of heat, depending on air flow. I believe that would be something like 10K to 30K BTU.

    1. Is getting firewood going to be a hassle? Be careful of non-seasoned (for destination) wet wood. It won't burn well and leave a residue of crap. Seasoned, dry wood will have a distinctive "ring" when you hit it on a hard surface. Wet wood will give you a thud.

    Yes, it's going to be a hassle. Not surprisingly, people are buying firewood like crazy. It's hard to get (many dealers are out of stock), and what's available is very expensive.

    1. How much hassle will an installation be?

    Quite a hassle. We need to install a chimney that will look something like this:

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    The stove itself is around $3K, but the whole installation will cost upwards of $12K.

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      bachophile
      wrote on 3 Aug 2022, 11:22 last edited by
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      I also heat by wood but I live in the fucking Middle East and it never goes below freezing in my neck of the woods and wood burning season is only about end of November to beginning of March. Temps at nite 4-10 degrees C.

      But I just love messing around with it, splitting for kindling, the smell of wood burn in the house. But it’s more for ambiance than anything else. We certainly don’t have a sealed off house.

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        Axtremus
        wrote on 3 Aug 2022, 11:26 last edited by
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        The wood burner looks good, but the tubular metal chimney does not look as good. :man-shrugging:

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        • B bachophile
          3 Aug 2022, 11:22

          I also heat by wood but I live in the fucking Middle East and it never goes below freezing in my neck of the woods and wood burning season is only about end of November to beginning of March. Temps at nite 4-10 degrees C.

          But I just love messing around with it, splitting for kindling, the smell of wood burn in the house. But it’s more for ambiance than anything else. We certainly don’t have a sealed off house.

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          Klaus
          wrote on 3 Aug 2022, 12:00 last edited by
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          @bachophile said in Ordered a wood burner:

          We certainly don’t have a sealed off house.

          Over here they are more or less mandatory if you build new.

          It has some advantages, especially when it comes to cost for heating, but you also basically have to have some kind of elaborate ventilation system if you want to keep the air dry and fresh.

          That's a part of the reason why, deep into the upper middle class, people can't afford to build a house or even just a flat anymore.

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          • A Axtremus
            3 Aug 2022, 11:26

            The wood burner looks good, but the tubular metal chimney does not look as good. :man-shrugging:

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            Klaus
            wrote on 3 Aug 2022, 12:02 last edited by Klaus 8 Mar 2022, 12:02
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            @Axtremus said in Ordered a wood burner:

            The wood burner looks good, but the tubular metal chimney does not look as good. :man-shrugging:

            I agree, but that's the only option where the costs aren't completely ridiculous. Maybe that's a disadvantage of a brick-and-concrete house. Also, we rarely ever see that side of the house.

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            • A Axtremus
              3 Aug 2022, 11:26

              The wood burner looks good, but the tubular metal chimney does not look as good. :man-shrugging:

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              89th
              wrote on 3 Aug 2022, 12:18 last edited by
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              @Axtremus said in Ordered a wood burner:

              The wood burner looks good, but the tubular metal chimney does not look as good. :man-shrugging:

              I actually think it looks pretty cool, or at least...looks European based on my extensive researching watching House Hunters International on HGTV. I wonder how long it retains its chrome/shine?

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                Jolly
                wrote on 3 Aug 2022, 12:23 last edited by Jolly 8 Mar 2022, 12:24
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                I've said before, I've had a soapstone Hearthstone woodburner since 1986. It weighs around 550 pounds and throws about 55,000 btu when it's doing it's very best. Very rarely do I ever stoke it to anywhere near max.

                Last year, I had a about an eighteen inch oak come down and while I was looking at it, I noticed I also had a big pin oak down in the flat at the back of the property. I can only cut 40" logs with my saw, so I had to take mostly the limbs off the big tree. Still cut enough, that I have about six ricks here, gave my daughter a rick and a half , and gave one of my friends who had had surgery two truckloads.

                I was looking at the flat last week. I've got enough pin oak in the flat, that my kids will never have to worry about firewood, as long as they're not too lazy to cut it.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • J Jolly
                  3 Aug 2022, 12:23

                  I've said before, I've had a soapstone Hearthstone woodburner since 1986. It weighs around 550 pounds and throws about 55,000 btu when it's doing it's very best. Very rarely do I ever stoke it to anywhere near max.

                  Last year, I had a about an eighteen inch oak come down and while I was looking at it, I noticed I also had a big pin oak down in the flat at the back of the property. I can only cut 40" logs with my saw, so I had to take mostly the limbs off the big tree. Still cut enough, that I have about six ricks here, gave my daughter a rick and a half , and gave one of my friends who had had surgery two truckloads.

                  I was looking at the flat last week. I've got enough pin oak in the flat, that my kids will never have to worry about firewood, as long as they're not too lazy to cut it.

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                  Klaus
                  wrote on 3 Aug 2022, 12:26 last edited by
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                  @Jolly said in Ordered a wood burner:

                  I've said before, I've had a soapstone Hearthstone woodburner since 1986. It weighs around 550 pounds and throws about 55,000 btu when it's doing it's very best. Very rarely do I ever stoke it to anywhere near max.

                  But does it ever get really cold in your place? I would have guessed that it's so warm, generally, that the heater of the AC or something would be enough for the few days when it's needed.

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                  • K Klaus
                    3 Aug 2022, 12:26

                    @Jolly said in Ordered a wood burner:

                    I've said before, I've had a soapstone Hearthstone woodburner since 1986. It weighs around 550 pounds and throws about 55,000 btu when it's doing it's very best. Very rarely do I ever stoke it to anywhere near max.

                    But does it ever get really cold in your place? I would have guessed that it's so warm, generally, that the heater of the AC or something would be enough for the few days when it's needed.

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                    Jolly
                    wrote on 3 Aug 2022, 12:35 last edited by
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                    @Klaus said in Ordered a wood burner:

                    @Jolly said in Ordered a wood burner:

                    I've said before, I've had a soapstone Hearthstone woodburner since 1986. It weighs around 550 pounds and throws about 55,000 btu when it's doing it's very best. Very rarely do I ever stoke it to anywhere near max.

                    But does it ever get really cold in your place? I would have guessed that it's so warm, generally, that the heater of the AC or something would be enough for the few days when it's needed.

                    End of November to about the first week or two of March, lots of nights get down in the forties, with several thirties scattered in there. Usually have a half -dozen nights in the twenties. Maybe one night or two in the teens.

                    I have central heat, but I rarely ever use it. I like my fire. It's just a different kind of heat.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      Klaus
                      wrote on 10 Aug 2022, 09:37 last edited by
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                      It's done.

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                        Jolly
                        wrote on 10 Aug 2022, 13:58 last edited by
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                        Stay warm...

                        BTW, don't know the humidity in Germany, but I tend to put a kettle of water on my stove in the winter. Seems to help the piano.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          bachophile
                          wrote on 10 Aug 2022, 14:18 last edited by
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                          Where r u going to keep the woodpile?

                          My set up, (just took the pic now, hence the summer crocs just lying around) We have it on a brick platform to keep it up from the wood parquet . A Dovre stove. (I believe Belgian)

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                            Jolly
                            wrote on 10 Aug 2022, 14:27 last edited by
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                            They make canvas wood carriers that fit into a metal or wooden frame. You can get four or five sticks per load (maybe more) in the carrier.

                            When spring comes, just store the carrier and holder.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              10 Aug 2022, 14:18

                              Where r u going to keep the woodpile?

                              My set up, (just took the pic now, hence the summer crocs just lying around) We have it on a brick platform to keep it up from the wood parquet . A Dovre stove. (I believe Belgian)

                              63F37013-A256-49E3-9675-2E254D19EDE0.jpeg

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                              George K
                              wrote on 10 Aug 2022, 15:39 last edited by
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                              @bachophile Crocs...

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                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • G George K
                                10 Aug 2022, 15:39

                                @bachophile Crocs...

                                alt text

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                                taiwan_girl
                                wrote on 10 Aug 2022, 15:50 last edited by
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                                @George-K said in Ordered a wood burner:

                                @bachophile Crocs...

                                Maybe this is somewhat interesting, but my understand is that crocs were developed by the Swedish(?) military for use during river crossings.

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                                • G George K
                                  10 Aug 2022, 15:39

                                  @bachophile Crocs...

                                  alt text

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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on 10 Aug 2022, 15:52 last edited by
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                                  @George-K said in Ordered a wood burner:

                                  @bachophile Crocs...

                                  alt text

                                  Probably wears the solid-tied versions in surgery.

                                  Or cowboy boots.

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  • J Jolly
                                    10 Aug 2022, 15:52

                                    @George-K said in Ordered a wood burner:

                                    @bachophile Crocs...

                                    alt text

                                    Probably wears the solid-tied versions in surgery.

                                    Or cowboy boots.

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                                    bachophile
                                    wrote on 10 Aug 2022, 17:02 last edited by bachophile 8 Oct 2022, 17:03
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                                    @Jolly I used to wear plastic clogs, not crocs. Too many holes. Now just new balance sneakers which I don’t mind if they get dirty with gunk.

                                    Crocs are for going outside in the garden or anywhere short distance so I don’t need to tie any laces.

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                                      Axtremus
                                      wrote on 10 Aug 2022, 17:21 last edited by
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                                      @Klaus , it looks nice installed. Does the stove draw fresh air from the house or is there an air in-take pipe behind the stove that's not shown in the pictures?

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                                      • J Jolly
                                        10 Aug 2022, 15:52

                                        @George-K said in Ordered a wood burner:

                                        @bachophile Crocs...

                                        alt text

                                        Probably wears the solid-tied versions in surgery.

                                        Or cowboy boots.

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                                        Jolly
                                        wrote on 10 Aug 2022, 18:56 last edited by Jolly 8 Oct 2022, 18:59
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                                        I've seen several surgeons wear solid toe Crocs.

                                        alt text

                                        And I've seen several wear cowboy boots. The guys who wear the boots claim it helps keep their back from hurting.

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        • J Jolly
                                          10 Aug 2022, 18:56

                                          I've seen several surgeons wear solid toe Crocs.

                                          alt text

                                          And I've seen several wear cowboy boots. The guys who wear the boots claim it helps keep their back from hurting.

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                                          George K
                                          wrote on 10 Aug 2022, 20:02 last edited by
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                                          @Jolly said in Ordered a wood burner:

                                          I've seen several surgeons wear solid toe Crocs.

                                          A couple of guys I worked with used to wear 'em as well. For about a year, I tried, and then gave up. Mine were the open-air version, since my feet (usually) didn't come in contact with bodily fluids. That would have been my hands.

                                          I just found them uncomfortable, and went back to wearing regular plastic/rubber clogs.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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