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    Mik
    wrote on 2 Aug 2022, 20:39 last edited by
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    Dang. I thought you were going to start BBQing.

    "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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      Jolly
      wrote on 2 Aug 2022, 20:40 last edited by
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      One stick of wood at a time, my friend...

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        Mik
        wrote on 2 Aug 2022, 20:41 last edited by
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        HopeSmoke springs eternal.

        "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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        • M Mik
          2 Aug 2022, 20:39

          Dang. I thought you were going to start BBQing.

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          Klaus
          wrote on 2 Aug 2022, 20:53 last edited by
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          @Mik said in Ordered a wood burner:

          Dang. I thought you were going to start BBQing.

          Of course we have a BBQ thing too. Unless you mean one of these huge American things were you let meat cook for many hours (Smokers?) - yes, we don't have that one.

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            Mik
            wrote on 2 Aug 2022, 20:54 last edited by
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            ..yet....

            "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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              Mik
              wrote on 2 Aug 2022, 20:56 last edited by
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              Hey Klaus! It's your HERITAGE!!!!

              I should not be surprised. Texas was largely settled by German immigrants.

              https://www.thespruceeats.com/german-barbecue-cooking-335803

              "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                Mik
                wrote on 2 Aug 2022, 20:59 last edited by Mik 8 Feb 2022, 20:59
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                Note: My best friend lives in New Braunfels. I've had plenty of BBQ there and in Fredricksburg, among many other towns. I had no idea it had German origins.

                "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                • M Mik
                  2 Aug 2022, 20:56

                  Hey Klaus! It's your HERITAGE!!!!

                  I should not be surprised. Texas was largely settled by German immigrants.

                  https://www.thespruceeats.com/german-barbecue-cooking-335803

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                  Klaus
                  wrote on 2 Aug 2022, 21:00 last edited by
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                  @Mik said in Ordered a wood burner:

                  Hey Klaus! It's your HERITAGE!!!!

                  I should not be surprised. Texas was largely settled by German immigrants.

                  https://www.thespruceeats.com/german-barbecue-cooking-335803

                  Hm, I think that's a culture that was then invented by the immigrants. It doesn't really stem from here.

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                    Mik
                    wrote on 2 Aug 2022, 21:12 last edited by
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                    It in your blood. Get it in your yard. 😜

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                      Jolly
                      wrote on 2 Aug 2022, 21:14 last edited by Jolly 8 Feb 2022, 21:15
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                      Doesn't have to be huge. I like off-set and I like to burn wood, preferably oak mixed with a flavor wood like crabapple.

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                      Mik knows better than I do, but I want something thick enough to stand up to several years of use. You might like a barrel smoke, instead.

                      But fair warning, the smoke bug is addictive.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        George K
                        wrote on 2 Aug 2022, 21:49 last edited by
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                        That looks awesome.

                        Couple of questions:

                        1. BTU specs? How much heat does it put out? Our wood-burning fireplace was about 15K BTU, iirc.

                        2. Is getting firewood going to be a hassle? Be careful of non-seasoned (for destination) wet wood. It won't burn well and leave a residue of crap. Seasoned, dry wood will have a distinctive "ring" when you hit it on a hard surface. Wet wood will give you a thud.

                        3. How much hassle will an installation be?

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • G George K
                          2 Aug 2022, 21:49

                          That looks awesome.

                          Couple of questions:

                          1. BTU specs? How much heat does it put out? Our wood-burning fireplace was about 15K BTU, iirc.

                          2. Is getting firewood going to be a hassle? Be careful of non-seasoned (for destination) wet wood. It won't burn well and leave a residue of crap. Seasoned, dry wood will have a distinctive "ring" when you hit it on a hard surface. Wet wood will give you a thud.

                          3. How much hassle will an installation be?

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                          Klaus
                          wrote on 2 Aug 2022, 23:11 last edited by Klaus 8 Feb 2022, 23:13
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                          @George-K said in Ordered a wood burner:

                          That looks awesome.

                          Couple of questions:

                          1. BTU specs? How much heat does it put out? Our wood-burning fireplace was about 15K BTU, iirc.

                          We don't use BTU but KW. It can produce between 3 and 7 KW of heat, depending on air flow. I believe that would be something like 10K to 30K BTU.

                          1. Is getting firewood going to be a hassle? Be careful of non-seasoned (for destination) wet wood. It won't burn well and leave a residue of crap. Seasoned, dry wood will have a distinctive "ring" when you hit it on a hard surface. Wet wood will give you a thud.

                          Yes, it's going to be a hassle. Not surprisingly, people are buying firewood like crazy. It's hard to get (many dealers are out of stock), and what's available is very expensive.

                          1. How much hassle will an installation be?

                          Quite a hassle. We need to install a chimney that will look something like this:

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                          The stove itself is around $3K, but the whole installation will cost upwards of $12K.

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                            bachophile
                            wrote on 3 Aug 2022, 11:22 last edited by
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                            I also heat by wood but I live in the fucking Middle East and it never goes below freezing in my neck of the woods and wood burning season is only about end of November to beginning of March. Temps at nite 4-10 degrees C.

                            But I just love messing around with it, splitting for kindling, the smell of wood burn in the house. But it’s more for ambiance than anything else. We certainly don’t have a sealed off house.

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                              Axtremus
                              wrote on 3 Aug 2022, 11:26 last edited by
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                              The wood burner looks good, but the tubular metal chimney does not look as good. :man-shrugging:

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                              • B bachophile
                                3 Aug 2022, 11:22

                                I also heat by wood but I live in the fucking Middle East and it never goes below freezing in my neck of the woods and wood burning season is only about end of November to beginning of March. Temps at nite 4-10 degrees C.

                                But I just love messing around with it, splitting for kindling, the smell of wood burn in the house. But it’s more for ambiance than anything else. We certainly don’t have a sealed off house.

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                                Klaus
                                wrote on 3 Aug 2022, 12:00 last edited by
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                                @bachophile said in Ordered a wood burner:

                                We certainly don’t have a sealed off house.

                                Over here they are more or less mandatory if you build new.

                                It has some advantages, especially when it comes to cost for heating, but you also basically have to have some kind of elaborate ventilation system if you want to keep the air dry and fresh.

                                That's a part of the reason why, deep into the upper middle class, people can't afford to build a house or even just a flat anymore.

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                                  3 Aug 2022, 11:26

                                  The wood burner looks good, but the tubular metal chimney does not look as good. :man-shrugging:

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                                  Klaus
                                  wrote on 3 Aug 2022, 12:02 last edited by Klaus 8 Mar 2022, 12:02
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                                  @Axtremus said in Ordered a wood burner:

                                  The wood burner looks good, but the tubular metal chimney does not look as good. :man-shrugging:

                                  I agree, but that's the only option where the costs aren't completely ridiculous. Maybe that's a disadvantage of a brick-and-concrete house. Also, we rarely ever see that side of the house.

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                                  • A Axtremus
                                    3 Aug 2022, 11:26

                                    The wood burner looks good, but the tubular metal chimney does not look as good. :man-shrugging:

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                                    89th
                                    wrote on 3 Aug 2022, 12:18 last edited by
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                                    @Axtremus said in Ordered a wood burner:

                                    The wood burner looks good, but the tubular metal chimney does not look as good. :man-shrugging:

                                    I actually think it looks pretty cool, or at least...looks European based on my extensive researching watching House Hunters International on HGTV. I wonder how long it retains its chrome/shine?

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                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on 3 Aug 2022, 12:23 last edited by Jolly 8 Mar 2022, 12:24
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                                      I've said before, I've had a soapstone Hearthstone woodburner since 1986. It weighs around 550 pounds and throws about 55,000 btu when it's doing it's very best. Very rarely do I ever stoke it to anywhere near max.

                                      Last year, I had a about an eighteen inch oak come down and while I was looking at it, I noticed I also had a big pin oak down in the flat at the back of the property. I can only cut 40" logs with my saw, so I had to take mostly the limbs off the big tree. Still cut enough, that I have about six ricks here, gave my daughter a rick and a half , and gave one of my friends who had had surgery two truckloads.

                                      I was looking at the flat last week. I've got enough pin oak in the flat, that my kids will never have to worry about firewood, as long as they're not too lazy to cut it.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        3 Aug 2022, 12:23

                                        I've said before, I've had a soapstone Hearthstone woodburner since 1986. It weighs around 550 pounds and throws about 55,000 btu when it's doing it's very best. Very rarely do I ever stoke it to anywhere near max.

                                        Last year, I had a about an eighteen inch oak come down and while I was looking at it, I noticed I also had a big pin oak down in the flat at the back of the property. I can only cut 40" logs with my saw, so I had to take mostly the limbs off the big tree. Still cut enough, that I have about six ricks here, gave my daughter a rick and a half , and gave one of my friends who had had surgery two truckloads.

                                        I was looking at the flat last week. I've got enough pin oak in the flat, that my kids will never have to worry about firewood, as long as they're not too lazy to cut it.

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                                        Klaus
                                        wrote on 3 Aug 2022, 12:26 last edited by
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                                        @Jolly said in Ordered a wood burner:

                                        I've said before, I've had a soapstone Hearthstone woodburner since 1986. It weighs around 550 pounds and throws about 55,000 btu when it's doing it's very best. Very rarely do I ever stoke it to anywhere near max.

                                        But does it ever get really cold in your place? I would have guessed that it's so warm, generally, that the heater of the AC or something would be enough for the few days when it's needed.

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                                        • K Klaus
                                          3 Aug 2022, 12:26

                                          @Jolly said in Ordered a wood burner:

                                          I've said before, I've had a soapstone Hearthstone woodburner since 1986. It weighs around 550 pounds and throws about 55,000 btu when it's doing it's very best. Very rarely do I ever stoke it to anywhere near max.

                                          But does it ever get really cold in your place? I would have guessed that it's so warm, generally, that the heater of the AC or something would be enough for the few days when it's needed.

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                                          wrote on 3 Aug 2022, 12:35 last edited by
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                                          @Klaus said in Ordered a wood burner:

                                          @Jolly said in Ordered a wood burner:

                                          I've said before, I've had a soapstone Hearthstone woodburner since 1986. It weighs around 550 pounds and throws about 55,000 btu when it's doing it's very best. Very rarely do I ever stoke it to anywhere near max.

                                          But does it ever get really cold in your place? I would have guessed that it's so warm, generally, that the heater of the AC or something would be enough for the few days when it's needed.

                                          End of November to about the first week or two of March, lots of nights get down in the forties, with several thirties scattered in there. Usually have a half -dozen nights in the twenties. Maybe one night or two in the teens.

                                          I have central heat, but I rarely ever use it. I like my fire. It's just a different kind of heat.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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