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She wasn't read her rights

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  • JollyJ Jolly

    Intentions don't matter.

    And who knows? Maybe the Russians set her up...

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    George K
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    @Jolly said in She wasn't read her rights:

    And who knows? Maybe the Russians set her up...

    I wouldn't put it past them, would you?

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Nope.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        Yep. I just can’t trust the Russian’s version of events, especially given the timing.

        They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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        • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

          Quite a few years ago, I was in country X, and while out for a walk in the evening, a guy came up to me and gave me a piece of paper. Written in the local language, I thought it was an advert and put it away in my purse.

          About 5 hours later, I got a knock on my hotel room door with two policeman (good cop and bad cop). The paper I had received was some sort of anti-government organizing material on it. I dont know if they were following the guy or following me. Anyway, they pulled out a piece of paper for me to sign, that was written in the local language. Even though I think of myself as a somewhat experienced traveler, but Being alone in the room and not being able to contact anyone, i signed the paper, but did write underneath my signature that I did not understand what I was signing, etc etc.

          I was afraid that they were going to take me away, but fortunately, they did leave after a couple of hours of talking and questioning.

          Word got back to embassy officials and the country X officials were convinced that I actually was innocent in the matter.

          I often wonder what happened to the guy who gave me the piece of paper in the first place.

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          @taiwan_girl said in She wasn't read her rights:

          Quite a few years ago, I was in country X, and while out for a walk in the evening, a guy came up to me and gave me a piece of paper. Written in the local language, I thought it was an advert and put it away in my purse.

          About 5 hours later, I got a knock on my hotel room door with two policeman (good cop and bad cop). The paper I had received was some sort of anti-government organizing material on it. I dont know if they were following the guy or following me. Anyway, they pulled out a piece of paper for me to sign, that was written in the local language. Even though I think of myself as a somewhat experienced traveler, but Being alone in the room and not being able to contact anyone, i signed the paper, but did write underneath my signature that I did not understand what I was signing, etc etc.

          I was afraid that they were going to take me away, but fortunately, they did leave after a couple of hours of talking and questioning.

          Word got back to embassy officials and the country X officials were convinced that I actually was innocent in the matter.

          I often wonder what happened to the guy who gave me the piece of paper in the first place.

          Wow that is scary. Good for you for writing that under your name.

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          • 89th8 89th

            @taiwan_girl said in She wasn't read her rights:

            Quite a few years ago, I was in country X, and while out for a walk in the evening, a guy came up to me and gave me a piece of paper. Written in the local language, I thought it was an advert and put it away in my purse.

            About 5 hours later, I got a knock on my hotel room door with two policeman (good cop and bad cop). The paper I had received was some sort of anti-government organizing material on it. I dont know if they were following the guy or following me. Anyway, they pulled out a piece of paper for me to sign, that was written in the local language. Even though I think of myself as a somewhat experienced traveler, but Being alone in the room and not being able to contact anyone, i signed the paper, but did write underneath my signature that I did not understand what I was signing, etc etc.

            I was afraid that they were going to take me away, but fortunately, they did leave after a couple of hours of talking and questioning.

            Word got back to embassy officials and the country X officials were convinced that I actually was innocent in the matter.

            I often wonder what happened to the guy who gave me the piece of paper in the first place.

            Wow that is scary. Good for you for writing that under your name.

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            @89th said in She wasn't read her rights:

            Wow that is scary. Good for you for writing that under your name.

            I would have written it ABOVE my name. I can see some a-hole saying "She didn't write that. It was added after she signed.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              If they wanted to set her up, why Cannabis Oil? Why not just toss in a bag of dope?

              I think more a target of opportunity. She probably even forgot about the CBD oil, and whereas at other times she would have been detained for a few days then sent home, the Russians saw an opportunity and took it…

              The Brad

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                I think it is a bad mistake if they "trade" Viktor Bout for her and the other gentleman. I think this will just encourage more holding of US citizens without a true cause.

                Not sure it is an even trade if it occurs.

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                • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                  If they wanted to set her up, why Cannabis Oil? Why not just toss in a bag of dope?

                  I think more a target of opportunity. She probably even forgot about the CBD oil, and whereas at other times she would have been detained for a few days then sent home, the Russians saw an opportunity and took it…

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                  @LuFins-Dad said in She wasn't read her rights:

                  If they wanted to set her up, why Cannabis Oil? Why not just toss in a bag of dope?

                  I think more a target of opportunity. She probably even forgot about the CBD oil, and whereas at other times she would have been detained for a few days then sent home, the Russians saw an opportunity and took it…

                  Yeah, that seems like it could easily be the case.

                  They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                    Or it could be that the Russians are absolutely nuts over this stuff… An international teacher from Pittsburgh was recently sentenced to 14 years in a Russian prison…

                    https://triblive.com/local/family-seeks-release-of-oakmont-teacher-being-held-in-russian-prison/

                    The Brad

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                      In Russia, rights have you.

                      "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                      • MikM Mik

                        In Russia, rights have you.

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                        lol, @Mik

                        They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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