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  • A Aqua Letifer
    26 Aug 2022, 00:31

    @Horace said in Bad timing:

    @Jolly said in Bad timing:

    I think it will all work out.

    And now, a bright note...You'll be moved just in time for...Wait for it...

    https://www.texrenfest.com

    I do like the ladies’ attire at those.

    Texas Renn Fest is no damn joke. It's Burning Man with a theme. Crazy shit goes on there.

    Cover your drinks.

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    Jolly
    wrote on 26 Aug 2022, 00:43 last edited by
    #69

    @Aqua-Letifer said in Bad timing:

    @Horace said in Bad timing:

    @Jolly said in Bad timing:

    I think it will all work out.

    And now, a bright note...You'll be moved just in time for...Wait for it...

    https://www.texrenfest.com

    I do like the ladies’ attire at those.

    Texas Renn Fest is no damn joke. It's Burning Man with a theme. Crazy shit goes on there.

    Cover your drinks.

    It's not quite that bad...

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      Jolly
      wrote on 26 Aug 2022, 00:44 last edited by
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      At least Horace should be down in time for hurricane season.😁 😁

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • H Horace
        26 Aug 2022, 00:42

        I'm very pleased with what we were able to get out of this place. Almost the entire COVID era housing bubble bump. Though when you look at the zillow estimate chart, it's just linear if you remove short term spikes during COVID. Same can't be said for where we're buying...

        The blue circle is where we listed, and the end of the line is where we sold.

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        Doctor Phibes
        wrote on 26 Aug 2022, 00:45 last edited by
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        @Horace said in Bad timing:

        I'm very pleased with what we were able to get out of this place. Almost the entire COVID era housing bubble bump. Though when you look at the zillow estimate chart, it's just linear if you remove short term spikes during COVID. Same can't be said for where we're buying...

        Congratulations, Horace. Ours goes on the market the end of next week...more frighteningly, we're expected to close on the new one in 4 weeks time, so I'm likely to end up owning two houses for a hopefully very short period of time. I try not to lie awake at 5am thinking about this.

        I was only joking

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        • J Jolly
          26 Aug 2022, 00:44

          At least Horace should be down in time for hurricane season.😁 😁

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          Horace
          wrote on 26 Aug 2022, 00:45 last edited by
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          @Jolly said in Bad timing:

          At least Horace should be down in time for hurricane season.😁 😁

          I'm looking forward to rain storms... we'll have a big back patio and a big pond back there that I think will be beautiful during the rain.

          Education is extremely important.

          J 1 Reply Last reply 26 Aug 2022, 01:01
          • J Jolly
            26 Aug 2022, 00:43

            @Aqua-Letifer said in Bad timing:

            @Horace said in Bad timing:

            @Jolly said in Bad timing:

            I think it will all work out.

            And now, a bright note...You'll be moved just in time for...Wait for it...

            https://www.texrenfest.com

            I do like the ladies’ attire at those.

            Texas Renn Fest is no damn joke. It's Burning Man with a theme. Crazy shit goes on there.

            Cover your drinks.

            It's not quite that bad...

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            Aqua Letifer
            wrote on 26 Aug 2022, 00:45 last edited by
            #73

            @Jolly said in Bad timing:

            @Aqua-Letifer said in Bad timing:

            @Horace said in Bad timing:

            @Jolly said in Bad timing:

            I think it will all work out.

            And now, a bright note...You'll be moved just in time for...Wait for it...

            https://www.texrenfest.com

            I do like the ladies’ attire at those.

            Texas Renn Fest is no damn joke. It's Burning Man with a theme. Crazy shit goes on there.

            Cover your drinks.

            It's not quite that bad...

            Go as cast or a boothie and we'll compare notes.

            Please love yourself.

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            • D Doctor Phibes
              26 Aug 2022, 00:45

              @Horace said in Bad timing:

              I'm very pleased with what we were able to get out of this place. Almost the entire COVID era housing bubble bump. Though when you look at the zillow estimate chart, it's just linear if you remove short term spikes during COVID. Same can't be said for where we're buying...

              Congratulations, Horace. Ours goes on the market the end of next week...more frighteningly, we're expected to close on the new one in 4 weeks time, so I'm likely to end up owning two houses for a hopefully very short period of time. I try not to lie awake at 5am thinking about this.

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              Horace
              wrote on 26 Aug 2022, 00:46 last edited by
              #74

              @Doctor-Phibes said in Bad timing:

              @Horace said in Bad timing:

              I'm very pleased with what we were able to get out of this place. Almost the entire COVID era housing bubble bump. Though when you look at the zillow estimate chart, it's just linear if you remove short term spikes during COVID. Same can't be said for where we're buying...

              Congratulations, Horace. Ours goes on the market the end of next week...more frighteningly, we're expected to close on the new one in 4 weeks time, so I'm likely to end up owning two houses for a hopefully very short period of time. I try not to lie awake at 5am thinking about this.

              Good luck! I think it's good to get on the market asap. But a crash is not imminent. Stay away from youtube videos about the real estate market, btw.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • D Doctor Phibes
                26 Aug 2022, 00:45

                @Horace said in Bad timing:

                I'm very pleased with what we were able to get out of this place. Almost the entire COVID era housing bubble bump. Though when you look at the zillow estimate chart, it's just linear if you remove short term spikes during COVID. Same can't be said for where we're buying...

                Congratulations, Horace. Ours goes on the market the end of next week...more frighteningly, we're expected to close on the new one in 4 weeks time, so I'm likely to end up owning two houses for a hopefully very short period of time. I try not to lie awake at 5am thinking about this.

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                George K
                wrote on 26 Aug 2022, 00:53 last edited by
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                @Doctor-Phibes said in Bad timing:

                end up owning two houses for a hopefully very short period of time

                I did that...twice.

                The second time I ended up renting the place for just enough to cover taxes, etc.

                No joy. None whatsoever.

                Good luck, @Doctor-Phibes

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  89th
                  wrote on 26 Aug 2022, 00:57 last edited by
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                  Congrats @Horace, my realtor had the same signature in her email too. Perhaps it’s semantics, but usually when you both sign the closing papers, the property is officially transferred to the new owner unless you had a rent-back in the contract. Anyway, time to buy that Apple Air Tag.

                  @Doctor-Phibes exciting, and best of luck. Yes market timing isn’t the best compared to 6 months ago but compare it to 6 years ago or even 10 years ago…I’m sure you’re home value is up. You should move to Minnesota btw. Horace too.

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                  • 8 89th
                    26 Aug 2022, 00:57

                    Congrats @Horace, my realtor had the same signature in her email too. Perhaps it’s semantics, but usually when you both sign the closing papers, the property is officially transferred to the new owner unless you had a rent-back in the contract. Anyway, time to buy that Apple Air Tag.

                    @Doctor-Phibes exciting, and best of luck. Yes market timing isn’t the best compared to 6 months ago but compare it to 6 years ago or even 10 years ago…I’m sure you’re home value is up. You should move to Minnesota btw. Horace too.

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                    George K
                    wrote on 26 Aug 2022, 00:59 last edited by George K
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                    @89th said in Bad timing:

                    Perhaps it’s semantics, but usually when you both sign the closing papers, the property is officially transferred to the new owner

                    Just for the sake of clarity, it's "closing papers" not acceptance of the contract.

                    Big, big difference.

                    So, what's the timeline for the move?

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • H Horace
                      26 Aug 2022, 00:45

                      @Jolly said in Bad timing:

                      At least Horace should be down in time for hurricane season.😁 😁

                      I'm looking forward to rain storms... we'll have a big back patio and a big pond back there that I think will be beautiful during the rain.

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                      Jolly
                      wrote on 26 Aug 2022, 01:01 last edited by
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                      @Horace said in Bad timing:

                      @Jolly said in Bad timing:

                      At least Horace should be down in time for hurricane season.😁 😁

                      I'm looking forward to rain storms... we'll have a big back patio and a big pond back there that I think will be beautiful during the rain.

                      You'd have been ecstatic over the last week or so.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • G George K
                        26 Aug 2022, 00:59

                        @89th said in Bad timing:

                        Perhaps it’s semantics, but usually when you both sign the closing papers, the property is officially transferred to the new owner

                        Just for the sake of clarity, it's "closing papers" not acceptance of the contract.

                        Big, big difference.

                        So, what's the timeline for the move?

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                        Horace
                        wrote on 26 Aug 2022, 01:05 last edited by
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                        @George-K said in Bad timing:

                        @89th said in Bad timing:

                        Perhaps it’s semantics, but usually when you both sign the closing papers, the property is officially transferred to the new owner

                        Just for the sake of clarity, it's "closing papers" not acceptance of the contract.

                        Big, big difference.

                        So, what's the timeline for the move?

                        We are planning on getting everything packed into UPack ReloCubes on Thursday, and leaving Friday morning. Will travel over the labor day weekend, with two overnight stays at airbnbs on the way. Then a one month stay at an airbnb in Houston. Our new home should be ready to close in early october, but we'll be looking for other places to buy before then. We think we might be able to get a price reduction on the one we're under contract for, but that's only realistic if we have a place we are serious about as an alternative. I really like the home we've chosen, but we think a new buyer would be able to get it cheaper. We signed for it at the tippy top of the market, in june.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                        • H Horace
                          26 Aug 2022, 00:46

                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Bad timing:

                          @Horace said in Bad timing:

                          I'm very pleased with what we were able to get out of this place. Almost the entire COVID era housing bubble bump. Though when you look at the zillow estimate chart, it's just linear if you remove short term spikes during COVID. Same can't be said for where we're buying...

                          Congratulations, Horace. Ours goes on the market the end of next week...more frighteningly, we're expected to close on the new one in 4 weeks time, so I'm likely to end up owning two houses for a hopefully very short period of time. I try not to lie awake at 5am thinking about this.

                          Good luck! I think it's good to get on the market asap. But a crash is not imminent. Stay away from youtube videos about the real estate market, btw.

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                          Doctor Phibes
                          wrote on 26 Aug 2022, 02:14 last edited by
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                          @Horace said in Bad timing:

                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Bad timing:

                          @Horace said in Bad timing:

                          I'm very pleased with what we were able to get out of this place. Almost the entire COVID era housing bubble bump. Though when you look at the zillow estimate chart, it's just linear if you remove short term spikes during COVID. Same can't be said for where we're buying...

                          Congratulations, Horace. Ours goes on the market the end of next week...more frighteningly, we're expected to close on the new one in 4 weeks time, so I'm likely to end up owning two houses for a hopefully very short period of time. I try not to lie awake at 5am thinking about this.

                          Good luck! I think it's good to get on the market asap. But a crash is not imminent. Stay away from youtube videos about the real estate market, btw.

                          Thanks - we should be fine as long as it doesn't crash - we've got some money put by for the short term pain, and the market's still pretty decent here.

                          I'm swapping a 20 minute commute 5 times a week for a 1 hour commute 3 times a week, and almost double the square footage. If everything plays out, we'll be pretty much mortgage free at the end of it.

                          I was only joking

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                          • 8 89th
                            26 Aug 2022, 00:57

                            Congrats @Horace, my realtor had the same signature in her email too. Perhaps it’s semantics, but usually when you both sign the closing papers, the property is officially transferred to the new owner unless you had a rent-back in the contract. Anyway, time to buy that Apple Air Tag.

                            @Doctor-Phibes exciting, and best of luck. Yes market timing isn’t the best compared to 6 months ago but compare it to 6 years ago or even 10 years ago…I’m sure you’re home value is up. You should move to Minnesota btw. Horace too.

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                            Doctor Phibes
                            wrote on 26 Aug 2022, 02:17 last edited by
                            #81

                            @89th said in Bad timing:

                            You should move to Minnesota btw. Horace too.

                            We considered going back to Canada, which is almost the same thing, but I need to stay here for the work. We still might go back up north at some point. I really loved it there.

                            I was only joking

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                            • D Doctor Phibes
                              26 Aug 2022, 02:14

                              @Horace said in Bad timing:

                              @Doctor-Phibes said in Bad timing:

                              @Horace said in Bad timing:

                              I'm very pleased with what we were able to get out of this place. Almost the entire COVID era housing bubble bump. Though when you look at the zillow estimate chart, it's just linear if you remove short term spikes during COVID. Same can't be said for where we're buying...

                              Congratulations, Horace. Ours goes on the market the end of next week...more frighteningly, we're expected to close on the new one in 4 weeks time, so I'm likely to end up owning two houses for a hopefully very short period of time. I try not to lie awake at 5am thinking about this.

                              Good luck! I think it's good to get on the market asap. But a crash is not imminent. Stay away from youtube videos about the real estate market, btw.

                              Thanks - we should be fine as long as it doesn't crash - we've got some money put by for the short term pain, and the market's still pretty decent here.

                              I'm swapping a 20 minute commute 5 times a week for a 1 hour commute 3 times a week, and almost double the square footage. If everything plays out, we'll be pretty much mortgage free at the end of it.

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                              Jolly
                              wrote on 26 Aug 2022, 02:46 last edited by
                              #82

                              @Doctor-Phibes said in Bad timing:

                              @Horace said in Bad timing:

                              @Doctor-Phibes said in Bad timing:

                              @Horace said in Bad timing:

                              I'm very pleased with what we were able to get out of this place. Almost the entire COVID era housing bubble bump. Though when you look at the zillow estimate chart, it's just linear if you remove short term spikes during COVID. Same can't be said for where we're buying...

                              Congratulations, Horace. Ours goes on the market the end of next week...more frighteningly, we're expected to close on the new one in 4 weeks time, so I'm likely to end up owning two houses for a hopefully very short period of time. I try not to lie awake at 5am thinking about this.

                              Good luck! I think it's good to get on the market asap. But a crash is not imminent. Stay away from youtube videos about the real estate market, btw.

                              Thanks - we should be fine as long as it doesn't crash - we've got some money put by for the short term pain, and the market's still pretty decent here.

                              I'm swapping a 20 minute commute 5 times a week for a 1 hour commute 3 times a week, and almost double the square footage. If everything plays out, we'll be pretty much mortgage free at the end of it.

                              Mortgage free is good.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                kluurs
                                wrote on 26 Aug 2022, 05:40 last edited by
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                                Fingers crossed. I look forward to your finding new digs. The adventure begins.

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                                  Horace
                                  wrote on 28 Aug 2022, 17:25 last edited by
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                                  Buyer and seller have signed the documents now. All that's left is for the loan to fund, and for the buyer to wire her money. Closing scheduled for Friday, which is 18 days after we accepted the offer. We will be on the road at the time.

                                  We got some surprise news from our new home's builder. They had been telling us we are looking at a November completion and closing date, but suddenly they will be done in three weeks, with a close set for five weeks from now. That's not great for us. The market is going down, and will continue to go down. More time would have played to our favor. We suspect we would take an immediate 10% depreciation hit if we were to close at the price we agreed to in June. That's several multiples of our earnest money. We will be looking at alternative properties when we get to TX, and it would be optimal if we find one we really like. But if we don't, it looks like we'll sacrifice this current deal and rent in Houston till we find a place. We believe it will be an increasingly buyer's market going into 2023. It already is way more of a buyer's market than it was earlier in the year and all of 2021. It will sting to lose our earnest money on this current place, and we really like it, so that will sting as well. But I can't be buying a property at 10% more than market value.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                  • H Horace
                                    28 Aug 2022, 17:25

                                    Buyer and seller have signed the documents now. All that's left is for the loan to fund, and for the buyer to wire her money. Closing scheduled for Friday, which is 18 days after we accepted the offer. We will be on the road at the time.

                                    We got some surprise news from our new home's builder. They had been telling us we are looking at a November completion and closing date, but suddenly they will be done in three weeks, with a close set for five weeks from now. That's not great for us. The market is going down, and will continue to go down. More time would have played to our favor. We suspect we would take an immediate 10% depreciation hit if we were to close at the price we agreed to in June. That's several multiples of our earnest money. We will be looking at alternative properties when we get to TX, and it would be optimal if we find one we really like. But if we don't, it looks like we'll sacrifice this current deal and rent in Houston till we find a place. We believe it will be an increasingly buyer's market going into 2023. It already is way more of a buyer's market than it was earlier in the year and all of 2021. It will sting to lose our earnest money on this current place, and we really like it, so that will sting as well. But I can't be buying a property at 10% more than market value.

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                                    wrote on 28 Aug 2022, 17:27 last edited by jon-nyc
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                                    @Horace said in Bad timing:

                                    Buyer and seller have signed the documents now. All that's left is for the loan to fund, and for the buyer to wire her money. Closing scheduled for Friday, which is 18 days after we accepted the offer. We will be on the road at the time.

                                    But I can't be buying a property at 10% more than market value.

                                    Can’t you make it up in volume?

                                    Seriously though good call. You know the builder rushed everything too, for the same reason. Who knows what corners were cut.

                                    You were warned.

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                                      wrote on 28 Aug 2022, 18:03 last edited by Mik
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                                      Yeah, that's what I was going to say too - the builder may have slapped it together to get it sold before prices dropped more. That might not be the case, but the dropping price is a hazard for you.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        Horace
                                        wrote on 28 Aug 2022, 18:19 last edited by
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                                        In fairness, the November date was pushed back from the original date which was in fact September/October. They pushed it back to November because electricity had not been run to the neighborhood yet, and that was out of their hands. Apparently they power company hooked it up last week. So the home is back on the original schedule. But I think it’s a good point that whatever they are doing now, will be done in a hurry.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                          28 Aug 2022, 17:25

                                          Buyer and seller have signed the documents now. All that's left is for the loan to fund, and for the buyer to wire her money. Closing scheduled for Friday, which is 18 days after we accepted the offer. We will be on the road at the time.

                                          We got some surprise news from our new home's builder. They had been telling us we are looking at a November completion and closing date, but suddenly they will be done in three weeks, with a close set for five weeks from now. That's not great for us. The market is going down, and will continue to go down. More time would have played to our favor. We suspect we would take an immediate 10% depreciation hit if we were to close at the price we agreed to in June. That's several multiples of our earnest money. We will be looking at alternative properties when we get to TX, and it would be optimal if we find one we really like. But if we don't, it looks like we'll sacrifice this current deal and rent in Houston till we find a place. We believe it will be an increasingly buyer's market going into 2023. It already is way more of a buyer's market than it was earlier in the year and all of 2021. It will sting to lose our earnest money on this current place, and we really like it, so that will sting as well. But I can't be buying a property at 10% more than market value.

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                                          89th
                                          wrote on 29 Aug 2022, 13:58 last edited by
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                                          @Horace As clearly I am your consigliere, you know my thoughts. I value the house/location more than the financial impact, unless it really impacts your wallet. That being said, I can't recall but are you taking a mortgage and (if so) do you already have a rate locked in? I'd be curious what a rate now would look like if you found an alternate (and even better) property.

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