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  • George KG George K

    @Horace said in Bad timing:

    I thought we'd have to leave as soon as we sign.

    First of all, congratulations on what seems to be a done deal.

    Each time I've sold a property, the contract specifies the time at which the buyer takes possession. That time is not until s/he secures funding, and that's a closing - usually 90 days hence.

    Until the funds are delivered, it's your place.

    You've got time.

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    Horace
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    #67

    @George-K said in Bad timing:

    @Horace said in Bad timing:

    I thought we'd have to leave as soon as we sign.

    First of all, congratulations on what seems to be a done deal.

    Each time I've sold a property, the contract specifies the time at which the buyer takes possession. That time is not until s/he secures funding, and that's a closing - usually 90 days hence.

    Until the funds are delivered, it's your place.

    You've got time.

    Good to know, thanks George.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • HoraceH Online
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      Horace
      wrote on last edited by Horace
      #68

      I'm very pleased with what we were able to get out of this place. Almost the entire COVID era housing bubble bump. Though when you look at the zillow estimate chart, it's just linear if you remove short term spikes during COVID. Same can't be said for where we're buying...

      The blue circle is where we listed, and the end of the line is where we sold.

      Clipboard01.jpg

      Education is extremely important.

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      • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

        @Horace said in Bad timing:

        @Jolly said in Bad timing:

        I think it will all work out.

        And now, a bright note...You'll be moved just in time for...Wait for it...

        https://www.texrenfest.com

        I do like the ladies’ attire at those.

        Texas Renn Fest is no damn joke. It's Burning Man with a theme. Crazy shit goes on there.

        Cover your drinks.

        JollyJ Offline
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        Jolly
        wrote on last edited by
        #69

        @Aqua-Letifer said in Bad timing:

        @Horace said in Bad timing:

        @Jolly said in Bad timing:

        I think it will all work out.

        And now, a bright note...You'll be moved just in time for...Wait for it...

        https://www.texrenfest.com

        I do like the ladies’ attire at those.

        Texas Renn Fest is no damn joke. It's Burning Man with a theme. Crazy shit goes on there.

        Cover your drinks.

        It's not quite that bad...

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • JollyJ Offline
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          Jolly
          wrote on last edited by
          #70

          At least Horace should be down in time for hurricane season.😁 😁

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • HoraceH Horace

            I'm very pleased with what we were able to get out of this place. Almost the entire COVID era housing bubble bump. Though when you look at the zillow estimate chart, it's just linear if you remove short term spikes during COVID. Same can't be said for where we're buying...

            The blue circle is where we listed, and the end of the line is where we sold.

            Clipboard01.jpg

            Doctor PhibesD Offline
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            Doctor Phibes
            wrote on last edited by
            #71

            @Horace said in Bad timing:

            I'm very pleased with what we were able to get out of this place. Almost the entire COVID era housing bubble bump. Though when you look at the zillow estimate chart, it's just linear if you remove short term spikes during COVID. Same can't be said for where we're buying...

            Congratulations, Horace. Ours goes on the market the end of next week...more frighteningly, we're expected to close on the new one in 4 weeks time, so I'm likely to end up owning two houses for a hopefully very short period of time. I try not to lie awake at 5am thinking about this.

            I was only joking

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              At least Horace should be down in time for hurricane season.😁 😁

              HoraceH Online
              HoraceH Online
              Horace
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              #72

              @Jolly said in Bad timing:

              At least Horace should be down in time for hurricane season.😁 😁

              I'm looking forward to rain storms... we'll have a big back patio and a big pond back there that I think will be beautiful during the rain.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                @Aqua-Letifer said in Bad timing:

                @Horace said in Bad timing:

                @Jolly said in Bad timing:

                I think it will all work out.

                And now, a bright note...You'll be moved just in time for...Wait for it...

                https://www.texrenfest.com

                I do like the ladies’ attire at those.

                Texas Renn Fest is no damn joke. It's Burning Man with a theme. Crazy shit goes on there.

                Cover your drinks.

                It's not quite that bad...

                Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                Aqua Letifer
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                #73

                @Jolly said in Bad timing:

                @Aqua-Letifer said in Bad timing:

                @Horace said in Bad timing:

                @Jolly said in Bad timing:

                I think it will all work out.

                And now, a bright note...You'll be moved just in time for...Wait for it...

                https://www.texrenfest.com

                I do like the ladies’ attire at those.

                Texas Renn Fest is no damn joke. It's Burning Man with a theme. Crazy shit goes on there.

                Cover your drinks.

                It's not quite that bad...

                Go as cast or a boothie and we'll compare notes.

                Please love yourself.

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                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                  @Horace said in Bad timing:

                  I'm very pleased with what we were able to get out of this place. Almost the entire COVID era housing bubble bump. Though when you look at the zillow estimate chart, it's just linear if you remove short term spikes during COVID. Same can't be said for where we're buying...

                  Congratulations, Horace. Ours goes on the market the end of next week...more frighteningly, we're expected to close on the new one in 4 weeks time, so I'm likely to end up owning two houses for a hopefully very short period of time. I try not to lie awake at 5am thinking about this.

                  HoraceH Online
                  HoraceH Online
                  Horace
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                  #74

                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Bad timing:

                  @Horace said in Bad timing:

                  I'm very pleased with what we were able to get out of this place. Almost the entire COVID era housing bubble bump. Though when you look at the zillow estimate chart, it's just linear if you remove short term spikes during COVID. Same can't be said for where we're buying...

                  Congratulations, Horace. Ours goes on the market the end of next week...more frighteningly, we're expected to close on the new one in 4 weeks time, so I'm likely to end up owning two houses for a hopefully very short period of time. I try not to lie awake at 5am thinking about this.

                  Good luck! I think it's good to get on the market asap. But a crash is not imminent. Stay away from youtube videos about the real estate market, btw.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                    @Horace said in Bad timing:

                    I'm very pleased with what we were able to get out of this place. Almost the entire COVID era housing bubble bump. Though when you look at the zillow estimate chart, it's just linear if you remove short term spikes during COVID. Same can't be said for where we're buying...

                    Congratulations, Horace. Ours goes on the market the end of next week...more frighteningly, we're expected to close on the new one in 4 weeks time, so I'm likely to end up owning two houses for a hopefully very short period of time. I try not to lie awake at 5am thinking about this.

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                    George K
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                    #75

                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Bad timing:

                    end up owning two houses for a hopefully very short period of time

                    I did that...twice.

                    The second time I ended up renting the place for just enough to cover taxes, etc.

                    No joy. None whatsoever.

                    Good luck, @Doctor-Phibes

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      89th
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                      #76

                      Congrats @Horace, my realtor had the same signature in her email too. Perhaps it’s semantics, but usually when you both sign the closing papers, the property is officially transferred to the new owner unless you had a rent-back in the contract. Anyway, time to buy that Apple Air Tag.

                      @Doctor-Phibes exciting, and best of luck. Yes market timing isn’t the best compared to 6 months ago but compare it to 6 years ago or even 10 years ago…I’m sure you’re home value is up. You should move to Minnesota btw. Horace too.

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                      • 89th8 89th

                        Congrats @Horace, my realtor had the same signature in her email too. Perhaps it’s semantics, but usually when you both sign the closing papers, the property is officially transferred to the new owner unless you had a rent-back in the contract. Anyway, time to buy that Apple Air Tag.

                        @Doctor-Phibes exciting, and best of luck. Yes market timing isn’t the best compared to 6 months ago but compare it to 6 years ago or even 10 years ago…I’m sure you’re home value is up. You should move to Minnesota btw. Horace too.

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                        George K
                        wrote on last edited by George K
                        #77

                        @89th said in Bad timing:

                        Perhaps it’s semantics, but usually when you both sign the closing papers, the property is officially transferred to the new owner

                        Just for the sake of clarity, it's "closing papers" not acceptance of the contract.

                        Big, big difference.

                        So, what's the timeline for the move?

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • HoraceH Horace

                          @Jolly said in Bad timing:

                          At least Horace should be down in time for hurricane season.😁 😁

                          I'm looking forward to rain storms... we'll have a big back patio and a big pond back there that I think will be beautiful during the rain.

                          JollyJ Offline
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                          Jolly
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #78

                          @Horace said in Bad timing:

                          @Jolly said in Bad timing:

                          At least Horace should be down in time for hurricane season.😁 😁

                          I'm looking forward to rain storms... we'll have a big back patio and a big pond back there that I think will be beautiful during the rain.

                          You'd have been ecstatic over the last week or so.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • George KG George K

                            @89th said in Bad timing:

                            Perhaps it’s semantics, but usually when you both sign the closing papers, the property is officially transferred to the new owner

                            Just for the sake of clarity, it's "closing papers" not acceptance of the contract.

                            Big, big difference.

                            So, what's the timeline for the move?

                            HoraceH Online
                            HoraceH Online
                            Horace
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #79

                            @George-K said in Bad timing:

                            @89th said in Bad timing:

                            Perhaps it’s semantics, but usually when you both sign the closing papers, the property is officially transferred to the new owner

                            Just for the sake of clarity, it's "closing papers" not acceptance of the contract.

                            Big, big difference.

                            So, what's the timeline for the move?

                            We are planning on getting everything packed into UPack ReloCubes on Thursday, and leaving Friday morning. Will travel over the labor day weekend, with two overnight stays at airbnbs on the way. Then a one month stay at an airbnb in Houston. Our new home should be ready to close in early october, but we'll be looking for other places to buy before then. We think we might be able to get a price reduction on the one we're under contract for, but that's only realistic if we have a place we are serious about as an alternative. I really like the home we've chosen, but we think a new buyer would be able to get it cheaper. We signed for it at the tippy top of the market, in june.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                            • HoraceH Horace

                              @Doctor-Phibes said in Bad timing:

                              @Horace said in Bad timing:

                              I'm very pleased with what we were able to get out of this place. Almost the entire COVID era housing bubble bump. Though when you look at the zillow estimate chart, it's just linear if you remove short term spikes during COVID. Same can't be said for where we're buying...

                              Congratulations, Horace. Ours goes on the market the end of next week...more frighteningly, we're expected to close on the new one in 4 weeks time, so I'm likely to end up owning two houses for a hopefully very short period of time. I try not to lie awake at 5am thinking about this.

                              Good luck! I think it's good to get on the market asap. But a crash is not imminent. Stay away from youtube videos about the real estate market, btw.

                              Doctor PhibesD Offline
                              Doctor PhibesD Offline
                              Doctor Phibes
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                              #80

                              @Horace said in Bad timing:

                              @Doctor-Phibes said in Bad timing:

                              @Horace said in Bad timing:

                              I'm very pleased with what we were able to get out of this place. Almost the entire COVID era housing bubble bump. Though when you look at the zillow estimate chart, it's just linear if you remove short term spikes during COVID. Same can't be said for where we're buying...

                              Congratulations, Horace. Ours goes on the market the end of next week...more frighteningly, we're expected to close on the new one in 4 weeks time, so I'm likely to end up owning two houses for a hopefully very short period of time. I try not to lie awake at 5am thinking about this.

                              Good luck! I think it's good to get on the market asap. But a crash is not imminent. Stay away from youtube videos about the real estate market, btw.

                              Thanks - we should be fine as long as it doesn't crash - we've got some money put by for the short term pain, and the market's still pretty decent here.

                              I'm swapping a 20 minute commute 5 times a week for a 1 hour commute 3 times a week, and almost double the square footage. If everything plays out, we'll be pretty much mortgage free at the end of it.

                              I was only joking

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                              • 89th8 89th

                                Congrats @Horace, my realtor had the same signature in her email too. Perhaps it’s semantics, but usually when you both sign the closing papers, the property is officially transferred to the new owner unless you had a rent-back in the contract. Anyway, time to buy that Apple Air Tag.

                                @Doctor-Phibes exciting, and best of luck. Yes market timing isn’t the best compared to 6 months ago but compare it to 6 years ago or even 10 years ago…I’m sure you’re home value is up. You should move to Minnesota btw. Horace too.

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                                Doctor Phibes
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                                @89th said in Bad timing:

                                You should move to Minnesota btw. Horace too.

                                We considered going back to Canada, which is almost the same thing, but I need to stay here for the work. We still might go back up north at some point. I really loved it there.

                                I was only joking

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                                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                  @Horace said in Bad timing:

                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Bad timing:

                                  @Horace said in Bad timing:

                                  I'm very pleased with what we were able to get out of this place. Almost the entire COVID era housing bubble bump. Though when you look at the zillow estimate chart, it's just linear if you remove short term spikes during COVID. Same can't be said for where we're buying...

                                  Congratulations, Horace. Ours goes on the market the end of next week...more frighteningly, we're expected to close on the new one in 4 weeks time, so I'm likely to end up owning two houses for a hopefully very short period of time. I try not to lie awake at 5am thinking about this.

                                  Good luck! I think it's good to get on the market asap. But a crash is not imminent. Stay away from youtube videos about the real estate market, btw.

                                  Thanks - we should be fine as long as it doesn't crash - we've got some money put by for the short term pain, and the market's still pretty decent here.

                                  I'm swapping a 20 minute commute 5 times a week for a 1 hour commute 3 times a week, and almost double the square footage. If everything plays out, we'll be pretty much mortgage free at the end of it.

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                                  #82

                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Bad timing:

                                  @Horace said in Bad timing:

                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Bad timing:

                                  @Horace said in Bad timing:

                                  I'm very pleased with what we were able to get out of this place. Almost the entire COVID era housing bubble bump. Though when you look at the zillow estimate chart, it's just linear if you remove short term spikes during COVID. Same can't be said for where we're buying...

                                  Congratulations, Horace. Ours goes on the market the end of next week...more frighteningly, we're expected to close on the new one in 4 weeks time, so I'm likely to end up owning two houses for a hopefully very short period of time. I try not to lie awake at 5am thinking about this.

                                  Good luck! I think it's good to get on the market asap. But a crash is not imminent. Stay away from youtube videos about the real estate market, btw.

                                  Thanks - we should be fine as long as it doesn't crash - we've got some money put by for the short term pain, and the market's still pretty decent here.

                                  I'm swapping a 20 minute commute 5 times a week for a 1 hour commute 3 times a week, and almost double the square footage. If everything plays out, we'll be pretty much mortgage free at the end of it.

                                  Mortgage free is good.

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    Fingers crossed. I look forward to your finding new digs. The adventure begins.

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                                      Buyer and seller have signed the documents now. All that's left is for the loan to fund, and for the buyer to wire her money. Closing scheduled for Friday, which is 18 days after we accepted the offer. We will be on the road at the time.

                                      We got some surprise news from our new home's builder. They had been telling us we are looking at a November completion and closing date, but suddenly they will be done in three weeks, with a close set for five weeks from now. That's not great for us. The market is going down, and will continue to go down. More time would have played to our favor. We suspect we would take an immediate 10% depreciation hit if we were to close at the price we agreed to in June. That's several multiples of our earnest money. We will be looking at alternative properties when we get to TX, and it would be optimal if we find one we really like. But if we don't, it looks like we'll sacrifice this current deal and rent in Houston till we find a place. We believe it will be an increasingly buyer's market going into 2023. It already is way more of a buyer's market than it was earlier in the year and all of 2021. It will sting to lose our earnest money on this current place, and we really like it, so that will sting as well. But I can't be buying a property at 10% more than market value.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                      • HoraceH Horace

                                        Buyer and seller have signed the documents now. All that's left is for the loan to fund, and for the buyer to wire her money. Closing scheduled for Friday, which is 18 days after we accepted the offer. We will be on the road at the time.

                                        We got some surprise news from our new home's builder. They had been telling us we are looking at a November completion and closing date, but suddenly they will be done in three weeks, with a close set for five weeks from now. That's not great for us. The market is going down, and will continue to go down. More time would have played to our favor. We suspect we would take an immediate 10% depreciation hit if we were to close at the price we agreed to in June. That's several multiples of our earnest money. We will be looking at alternative properties when we get to TX, and it would be optimal if we find one we really like. But if we don't, it looks like we'll sacrifice this current deal and rent in Houston till we find a place. We believe it will be an increasingly buyer's market going into 2023. It already is way more of a buyer's market than it was earlier in the year and all of 2021. It will sting to lose our earnest money on this current place, and we really like it, so that will sting as well. But I can't be buying a property at 10% more than market value.

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                                        @Horace said in Bad timing:

                                        Buyer and seller have signed the documents now. All that's left is for the loan to fund, and for the buyer to wire her money. Closing scheduled for Friday, which is 18 days after we accepted the offer. We will be on the road at the time.

                                        But I can't be buying a property at 10% more than market value.

                                        Can’t you make it up in volume?

                                        Seriously though good call. You know the builder rushed everything too, for the same reason. Who knows what corners were cut.

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                                          Yeah, that's what I was going to say too - the builder may have slapped it together to get it sold before prices dropped more. That might not be the case, but the dropping price is a hazard for you.

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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