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@Horace It seems to me that the appraisal system is pretty farcical. The house is worth what people are willing to pay for it, so the most you can really do is look at similar ones in the vicinity, and check for any massive repairs that are needed. How can somebody operating in this way be accurate enough to say it's worth 1% less than you're offering, particularly when the market is currently so unpredictable?
@Doctor-Phibes said in Bad timing:
It seems to me that the appraisal system is pretty farcical
Yup
The thing is, it has different purposes for different people
It has to be used by the lender, the buyer, the seller, the agents, the appraiser and the tax man. They all care about different things.
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The salesperson asked if we had plans to move in on Friday, which is the day after close. I thought that was a strange question. If we can’t close, it’s our problem what we will do, not hers. And she is not asking out of concern. My guess is that she wants to fashion a narrative for her boss as a justification for lowering the price, rather than risk missing the close as she engages with the appraiser. So I let her know we have huge plans for the day after the close, which will be complicated to cancel.
There is a real concern about being homeless next Monday, when our Airbnb time expires, but we will cross that bridge when we get to it.
Education is extremely important.
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The salesperson asked if we had plans to move in on Friday, which is the day after close. I thought that was a strange question. If we can’t close, it’s our problem what we will do, not hers. And she is not asking out of concern. My guess is that she wants to fashion a narrative for her boss as a justification for lowering the price, rather than risk missing the close as she engages with the appraiser. So I let her know we have huge plans for the day after the close, which will be complicated to cancel.
There is a real concern about being homeless next Monday, when our Airbnb time expires, but we will cross that bridge when we get to it.
@Horace said in Bad timing:
There is a real concern about being homeless next Monday, when our Airbnb time expires, but we will cross that bridge when we get to it.
We've got the opposite problem - I currently own two houses, we're supposed to close the sale on 10/6. The buyer seems overly concerned with a missing down-spout on one of the gutters and us repairing the lazy Susan. What he should be looking at is the $30K we just spent on the new septic system. I don't think he's ever owned a house before, and is approaching it like you do a landlord, worrying about all the little things. It's really quite aggravating. We've been knocking ourselves out fixing up the new place which was a real mess, and he's nit-picking our place, which is actually in pretty good shape.
The bank hasn't done the appraisal yet, so there's that, too....
I was only joking
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@Horace said in Bad timing:
There is a real concern about being homeless next Monday, when our Airbnb time expires, but we will cross that bridge when we get to it.
We've got the opposite problem - I currently own two houses, we're supposed to close the sale on 10/6. The buyer seems overly concerned with a missing down-spout on one of the gutters and us repairing the lazy Susan. What he should be looking at is the $30K we just spent on the new septic system. I don't think he's ever owned a house before, and is approaching it like you do a landlord, worrying about all the little things. It's really quite aggravating. We've been knocking ourselves out fixing up the new place which was a real mess, and he's nit-picking our place, which is actually in pretty good shape.
The bank hasn't done the appraisal yet, so there's that, too....
@Doctor-Phibes said in Bad timing:
@Horace said in Bad timing:
There is a real concern about being homeless next Monday, when our Airbnb time expires, but we will cross that bridge when we get to it.
The bank hasn't done the appraisal yet, so there's that, too....
What could go wrong?
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The salesperson asked if we had plans to move in on Friday, which is the day after close. I thought that was a strange question. If we can’t close, it’s our problem what we will do, not hers. And she is not asking out of concern. My guess is that she wants to fashion a narrative for her boss as a justification for lowering the price, rather than risk missing the close as she engages with the appraiser. So I let her know we have huge plans for the day after the close, which will be complicated to cancel.
There is a real concern about being homeless next Monday, when our Airbnb time expires, but we will cross that bridge when we get to it.
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@Horace said in Bad timing:
There is a real concern about being homeless next Monday, when our Airbnb time expires, but we will cross that bridge when we get to it.
We've got the opposite problem - I currently own two houses, we're supposed to close the sale on 10/6. The buyer seems overly concerned with a missing down-spout on one of the gutters and us repairing the lazy Susan. What he should be looking at is the $30K we just spent on the new septic system. I don't think he's ever owned a house before, and is approaching it like you do a landlord, worrying about all the little things. It's really quite aggravating. We've been knocking ourselves out fixing up the new place which was a real mess, and he's nit-picking our place, which is actually in pretty good shape.
The bank hasn't done the appraisal yet, so there's that, too....
@Doctor-Phibes yeah that’s annoying. But, hopefully minor and temporary. Hope the new place is rewarding to fix and make your own
@Horace When is the updated appraisal expected?
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@Doctor-Phibes yeah that’s annoying. But, hopefully minor and temporary. Hope the new place is rewarding to fix and make your own
@Horace When is the updated appraisal expected?
@89th said in Bad timing:
@Doctor-Phibes yeah that’s annoying. But, hopefully minor and temporary. Hope the new place is rewarding to fix and make your own
@Horace When is the updated appraisal expected?
Tomorrow. Or never, in which case we have a Mexican standoff where I threaten them that they will have to keep my 25k earnest money if they don’t reduce their price.
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@Doctor-Phibes yeah that’s annoying. But, hopefully minor and temporary. Hope the new place is rewarding to fix and make your own
@Horace When is the updated appraisal expected?
@89th said in Bad timing:
Hope the new place is rewarding to fix and make your own
I'm actually really enjoying it, although it's been a lot of work. The previous owners appear to have been absolute slobs, but the fundamentals are good.
On Sunday I removed this absolutely horrifically colored, and very dirty, bright pink carpet from one of the bedrooms, uncovering a pretty much pristine hardwood floor underneath. It appears to have been untouched since about 1980. So there are some nice surprises, along with the less nice ones. I have found and disposed of more discarded dental-floss applicators than I care to think about. After a while you stop pulling a face over the discovery.
I was only joking
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According to the closing sheet, our agent is getting 3% commission. That will be a topic of conversation if it is ever suggested that I pony up the 1%. I am sure he will jump at the chance to finally make himself useful, beyond doing MLS searches we could have done ourselves.
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According to the closing sheet, our agent is getting 3% commission. That will be a topic of conversation if it is ever suggested that I pony up the 1%. I am sure he will jump at the chance to finally make himself useful, beyond doing MLS searches we could have done ourselves.
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@89th said in Bad timing:
Hope the new place is rewarding to fix and make your own
I'm actually really enjoying it, although it's been a lot of work. The previous owners appear to have been absolute slobs, but the fundamentals are good.
On Sunday I removed this absolutely horrifically colored, and very dirty, bright pink carpet from one of the bedrooms, uncovering a pretty much pristine hardwood floor underneath. It appears to have been untouched since about 1980. So there are some nice surprises, along with the less nice ones. I have found and disposed of more discarded dental-floss applicators than I care to think about. After a while you stop pulling a face over the discovery.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Bad timing:
@89th said in Bad timing:
Hope the new place is rewarding to fix and make your own
I'm actually really enjoying it, although it's been a lot of work. The previous owners appear to have been absolute slobs, but the fundamentals are good.
On Sunday I removed this absolutely horrifically colored, and very dirty, bright pink carpet from one of the bedrooms, uncovering a pretty much pristine hardwood floor underneath. It appears to have been untouched since about 1980. So there are some nice surprises, along with the less nice ones. I have found and disposed of more discarded dental-floss applicators than I care to think about. After a while you stop pulling a face over the discovery.
That is a nice surprise (the floor, not the floss). Our previous owners also had a few areas they didn't maintain, so it's been nice to fix and refresh areas that we can make our own. They also really had a style that resulted in many very heavy (literally) and dark window dressings. It was fun (and dusty, and spider-y) to remove those to expose the really nice, bright, and wood-trimmed windows in a few rooms.
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Closing rescheduled for Friday, which may or may not screw all our plans for moving stuff in on Friday. Depending on how lenient the builder would like to be with allowing a buyer to do stuff with the house before the close.
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Closing rescheduled for Friday, which may or may not screw all our plans for moving stuff in on Friday. Depending on how lenient the builder would like to be with allowing a buyer to do stuff with the house before the close.
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I rescheduled the move for Monday. Now we wait to see if the appraiser changes his mind, and we can close Friday. If he doesn’t, the builder is still in the drivers seat with our abnormally large amount of earnest money and no contingencies. And the salesperson is off in her own righteous reality where she believes the price drop she has already allowed is generous to a fault. Never mind the appraisal that was lower. It’s just an absurd appraisal, according to her.
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I rescheduled the move for Monday. Now we wait to see if the appraiser changes his mind, and we can close Friday. If he doesn’t, the builder is still in the drivers seat with our abnormally large amount of earnest money and no contingencies. And the salesperson is off in her own righteous reality where she believes the price drop she has already allowed is generous to a fault. Never mind the appraisal that was lower. It’s just an absurd appraisal, according to her.
@Horace She sure likes exaggeration. Absurd would be like $300,000 low. Just as I'm sure any lower offer she's heard of in the past was "insulting". Insulting would be "I offer you $100, which you should recognize because it came from your mother last night!"
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@Horace She sure likes exaggeration. Absurd would be like $300,000 low. Just as I'm sure any lower offer she's heard of in the past was "insulting". Insulting would be "I offer you $100, which you should recognize because it came from your mother last night!"
@89th said in Bad timing:
@Horace She sure likes exaggeration. Absurd would be like $300,000 low. Just as I'm sure any lower offer she's heard of in the past was "insulting". Insulting would be "I offer you $100, which you should recognize because it came from your mother last night!"
Stealing that one for use in future negotiations. Thanks.
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@jon-nyc said in Bad timing:
Makes for an exciting game of chicken on that 1%.
The wild card is that my wife doesn't like the house to begin with. The builder and our agent don't truly understand how precarious this deal is, even given the earnest money is at peril.
