Bad timing
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@89th said in Bad timing:
@Horace Were/Are you working remotely? I am guessing you work for a company that has formulas for pay based on location, even if it's still the interweb to which you connect for work interaction.
And yes, as much as you can, I would check their homework on the cost of living... Texas (along with Florida, Arizona?) were major recipients of folks looking for housing over the last year.
Yes I was already officially a permanent remote. They even took away my cubicle. The business rationale for this is entirely about cost of living. I can't very well whine about my personal financial sacrifices to move, since those were my choice and particular to my situation, but the overall cost of living and their outdated view of it might have some sway. Ultimately what I need is another employment option, but nah. I would probably still have difficulty matching my income even after this cut. I'll find out more later today about the final number.
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When I was at Credit Suisse we lowered salaries of some folks we moved from NY to Raleigh. Of course that was pre covid when employment markets were more local.
I will say the people that moved thought they got a good deal since commute and housing costs were so much lower.
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I wasn’t complaining when they adjusted my salary after moving to CA from WI. That “cost of living” nonsense worked out exactly as I planned. With my net worth accumulating way faster than it would have in a low “cost of living” area. But now I pay the price for that shared delusion that “cost of living” balances everything out.
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My plan is to work somewhere expensive, and retire somewhere cheap. The pension's based on my salary.
What's possibly more likely to happen is that I can't face going through another move.
I was only joking
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Well it ended up being a 10% cut. I got a pay cut but emotionally it's like a raise, because they presented it to me as management having gone to bat for me and softening the by-the-books 20% cut. Not too significant a cut considering the state income tax going from 10% to 0. Now, if I manage a sufficient taxable investment income, the move to TX will be a net positive.
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My plan is to work somewhere expensive, and retire somewhere cheap. The pension's based on my salary.
What's possibly more likely to happen is that I can't face going through another move.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Bad timing:
My plan is to work somewhere expensive, and retire somewhere cheap. The pension's based on my salary.
What's possibly more likely to happen is that I can't face going through another move.
Well, you get to this point, and the idea of moving somewhere glamorous loses a bit of luster. It becomes about who you are near rather than where you are.
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Down to the wire now, with a choice between two homes. The one we have a contract for, and one from a different builder, in the same neighborhood, but without a water view. Just a privacy fence. But that one is more beautiful, and has a better floor plan. I like the one we have the current contract for, while my wife likes the other one. We're going to talk to the first salesperson tomorrow with a number in mind, a significant reduction from the contracted number we currently have. If we can't make a deal, we'll walk next door to the other builder's sales person, and buy the other one, which is already priced well and with nice incentives.
It will be interesting to see the first salesperson attempt to close us tomorrow. She refuses to give a final number to our agent, until she sees all of us in person. Who knows what tricks she has up her sleeve?
Education is extremely important.
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Down to the wire now, with a choice between two homes. The one we have a contract for, and one from a different builder, in the same neighborhood, but without a water view. Just a privacy fence. But that one is more beautiful, and has a better floor plan. I like the one we have the current contract for, while my wife likes the other one. We're going to talk to the first salesperson tomorrow with a number in mind, a significant reduction from the contracted number we currently have. If we can't make a deal, we'll walk next door to the other builder's sales person, and buy the other one, which is already priced well and with nice incentives.
It will be interesting to see the first salesperson attempt to close us tomorrow. She refuses to give a final number to our agent, until she sees all of us in person. Who knows what tricks she has up her sleeve?
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Down to the wire now, with a choice between two homes. The one we have a contract for, and one from a different builder, in the same neighborhood, but without a water view. Just a privacy fence. But that one is more beautiful, and has a better floor plan. I like the one we have the current contract for, while my wife likes the other one. We're going to talk to the first salesperson tomorrow with a number in mind, a significant reduction from the contracted number we currently have. If we can't make a deal, we'll walk next door to the other builder's sales person, and buy the other one, which is already priced well and with nice incentives.
It will be interesting to see the first salesperson attempt to close us tomorrow. She refuses to give a final number to our agent, until she sees all of us in person. Who knows what tricks she has up her sleeve?
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@Horace said in Bad timing:
she sees all of us in person.
Stay on your toes.
Those agents are really tricky.
@Copper said in Bad timing:
@Horace said in Bad timing:
she sees all of us in person.
Stay on your toes.
Those agents are really tricky.
I think math will be involved. She has different incentives than most selling agents, since builders agents get commission from the financing, if you use their preferred lender. It won’t be a simple price negotiation. She will offer some complicated financing options which, in some hand wavy way, will be exactly like getting a lower price.
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Hey Horace, my x SIL is selling her place out in the Woodlands. A cool mil, but a nice place.
“I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill
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Hey Horace, my x SIL is selling her place out in the Woodlands. A cool mil, but a nice place.
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Hey Horace, my x SIL is selling her place out in the Woodlands. A cool mil, but a nice place.
@Mik said in Bad timing:
Hey Horace, my x SIL is selling her place out in the Woodlands. A cool mil, but a nice place.
Nice place, but more than we want to spend.
Education is extremely important.
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@Mik said in Bad timing:
Hey Horace, my x SIL is selling her place out in the Woodlands. A cool mil, but a nice place.
Nice place, but more than we want to spend.
@Horace said in Bad timing:
@Mik said in Bad timing:
Hey Horace, my x SIL is selling her place out in the Woodlands. A cool mil, but a nice place.
Nice place, but more than we want to spend.
Thought so. I cannot believe she got that house a few short years after declaring bankruptcy. I love her, but she's a CFO that cannot manage her own debt. She's run up six figure credit card debt several times.
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Looks like we will move forward with the place we originally contracted for. It’s a compromise for the other half of the decision making team. I will be reminded of that, on occasion. We ended up with a 9% discount from the original list price, which matches with the discount we accepted on our own property sale, as compared to its peak value earlier in the year.
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Looks like we will move forward with the place we originally contracted for. It’s a compromise for the other half of the decision making team. I will be reminded of that, on occasion. We ended up with a 9% discount from the original list price, which matches with the discount we accepted on our own property sale, as compared to its peak value earlier in the year.
@Horace there's a kind of relief in knowing that the deal is done. It's probably akin to
taking a huge shit after a large meala big sigh after strenuous exercise.Congratulations, and keep us posted on how progress progresses.
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@Horace there's a kind of relief in knowing that the deal is done. It's probably akin to
taking a huge shit after a large meala big sigh after strenuous exercise.Congratulations, and keep us posted on how progress progresses.
@George-K said in Bad timing:
@Horace there's a kind of relief in knowing that the deal is done. It's probably akin to
taking a huge shit after a large meala big sigh after strenuous exercise.Congratulations, and keep us posted on how progress progresses.
Yeah it’s nice. Just wish we were both super excited about it. But she feels as if she sacrificed a lot, because the other one was her dream home. Sigh. We did save the cost of a very nice car or a house full of furniture, but that is small comfort.
The negotiation was painful. Our original offer was ‘unreasonable and unfair’ according to the sales professional. I guess that’s one way to negotiate. I suppose in a sense it worked since we raised the offer by 3%, and said take it or leave it, but there were more positive ways to have arrived at that final offer.
Education is extremely important.
