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  • MikM Mik

    @Doctor-Phibes said in Bad timing:

    @Mik said in Bad timing:

    @Doctor-Phibes said in Bad timing:

    After the open house this weekend, we just had two offers on our place - both for $20K over asking price (which will cover the neighbours septic cost). I don't want to jinx things, but things are actually looking up....

    Karma. Even God reads TNCR.

    I feel like this massive weight lifted off my shoulders. They start digging up the front yard next week, so we'll have a pool of water just like Horace!

    It'll be a bit darker brown I suspect.

    Doctor PhibesD Online
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    Doctor Phibes
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    #146

    @Mik said in Bad timing:

    @Doctor-Phibes said in Bad timing:

    @Mik said in Bad timing:

    @Doctor-Phibes said in Bad timing:

    After the open house this weekend, we just had two offers on our place - both for $20K over asking price (which will cover the neighbours septic cost). I don't want to jinx things, but things are actually looking up....

    Karma. Even God reads TNCR.

    I feel like this massive weight lifted off my shoulders. They start digging up the front yard next week, so we'll have a pool of water just like Horace!

    It'll be a bit darker brown I suspect.

    Yeah, but it'll smell better

    I was only joking

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    • 89th8 Online
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      89th
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      #147

      @Horace Were/Are you working remotely? I am guessing you work for a company that has formulas for pay based on location, even if it's still the interweb to which you connect for work interaction.

      And yes, as much as you can, I would check their homework on the cost of living... Texas (along with Florida, Arizona?) were major recipients of folks looking for housing over the last year.

      https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/x916ao/oc_change_in_house_prices_by_us_county_in_the/

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      • 89th8 89th

        @Horace Were/Are you working remotely? I am guessing you work for a company that has formulas for pay based on location, even if it's still the interweb to which you connect for work interaction.

        And yes, as much as you can, I would check their homework on the cost of living... Texas (along with Florida, Arizona?) were major recipients of folks looking for housing over the last year.

        https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/x916ao/oc_change_in_house_prices_by_us_county_in_the/

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        Horace
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        #148

        @89th said in Bad timing:

        @Horace Were/Are you working remotely? I am guessing you work for a company that has formulas for pay based on location, even if it's still the interweb to which you connect for work interaction.

        And yes, as much as you can, I would check their homework on the cost of living... Texas (along with Florida, Arizona?) were major recipients of folks looking for housing over the last year.

        https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/x916ao/oc_change_in_house_prices_by_us_county_in_the/

        Yes I was already officially a permanent remote. They even took away my cubicle. The business rationale for this is entirely about cost of living. I can't very well whine about my personal financial sacrifices to move, since those were my choice and particular to my situation, but the overall cost of living and their outdated view of it might have some sway. Ultimately what I need is another employment option, but nah. I would probably still have difficulty matching my income even after this cut. I'll find out more later today about the final number.

        Education is extremely important.

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        • HoraceH Horace

          @89th said in Bad timing:

          @Horace Were/Are you working remotely? I am guessing you work for a company that has formulas for pay based on location, even if it's still the interweb to which you connect for work interaction.

          And yes, as much as you can, I would check their homework on the cost of living... Texas (along with Florida, Arizona?) were major recipients of folks looking for housing over the last year.

          https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/x916ao/oc_change_in_house_prices_by_us_county_in_the/

          Yes I was already officially a permanent remote. They even took away my cubicle. The business rationale for this is entirely about cost of living. I can't very well whine about my personal financial sacrifices to move, since those were my choice and particular to my situation, but the overall cost of living and their outdated view of it might have some sway. Ultimately what I need is another employment option, but nah. I would probably still have difficulty matching my income even after this cut. I'll find out more later today about the final number.

          89th8 Online
          89th8 Online
          89th
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          #149

          @Horace I see, good luck. Yeah compensation should be based on your value to the company, not how far your dollar goes at the local piggly wiggly.

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          • jon-nycJ Online
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            jon-nyc
            wrote on last edited by
            #150

            When I was at Credit Suisse we lowered salaries of some folks we moved from NY to Raleigh. Of course that was pre covid when employment markets were more local.

            I will say the people that moved thought they got a good deal since commute and housing costs were so much lower.

            You were warned.

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              Horace
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              #151

              I wasn’t complaining when they adjusted my salary after moving to CA from WI. That “cost of living” nonsense worked out exactly as I planned. With my net worth accumulating way faster than it would have in a low “cost of living” area. But now I pay the price for that shared delusion that “cost of living” balances everything out.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • Doctor PhibesD Online
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                Doctor Phibes
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                #152

                My plan is to work somewhere expensive, and retire somewhere cheap. The pension's based on my salary.

                What's possibly more likely to happen is that I can't face going through another move.

                I was only joking

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                  Horace
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                  #153

                  Well it ended up being a 10% cut. I got a pay cut but emotionally it's like a raise, because they presented it to me as management having gone to bat for me and softening the by-the-books 20% cut. Not too significant a cut considering the state income tax going from 10% to 0. Now, if I manage a sufficient taxable investment income, the move to TX will be a net positive.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                    My plan is to work somewhere expensive, and retire somewhere cheap. The pension's based on my salary.

                    What's possibly more likely to happen is that I can't face going through another move.

                    MikM Away
                    MikM Away
                    Mik
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #154

                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Bad timing:

                    My plan is to work somewhere expensive, and retire somewhere cheap. The pension's based on my salary.

                    What's possibly more likely to happen is that I can't face going through another move.

                    Well, you get to this point, and the idea of moving somewhere glamorous loses a bit of luster. It becomes about who you are near rather than where you are.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      Horace
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                      #155

                      Down to the wire now, with a choice between two homes. The one we have a contract for, and one from a different builder, in the same neighborhood, but without a water view. Just a privacy fence. But that one is more beautiful, and has a better floor plan. I like the one we have the current contract for, while my wife likes the other one. We're going to talk to the first salesperson tomorrow with a number in mind, a significant reduction from the contracted number we currently have. If we can't make a deal, we'll walk next door to the other builder's sales person, and buy the other one, which is already priced well and with nice incentives.

                      It will be interesting to see the first salesperson attempt to close us tomorrow. She refuses to give a final number to our agent, until she sees all of us in person. Who knows what tricks she has up her sleeve?

                      Education is extremely important.

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                      • HoraceH Horace

                        Down to the wire now, with a choice between two homes. The one we have a contract for, and one from a different builder, in the same neighborhood, but without a water view. Just a privacy fence. But that one is more beautiful, and has a better floor plan. I like the one we have the current contract for, while my wife likes the other one. We're going to talk to the first salesperson tomorrow with a number in mind, a significant reduction from the contracted number we currently have. If we can't make a deal, we'll walk next door to the other builder's sales person, and buy the other one, which is already priced well and with nice incentives.

                        It will be interesting to see the first salesperson attempt to close us tomorrow. She refuses to give a final number to our agent, until she sees all of us in person. Who knows what tricks she has up her sleeve?

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                        George K
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                        #156

                        @Horace said in Bad timing:

                        She refuses to give a final number to our agent, until she sees all of us in person. Who knows what tricks she has up her sleeve?

                        Sounds as bad as used car salesmen.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • HoraceH Horace

                          Down to the wire now, with a choice between two homes. The one we have a contract for, and one from a different builder, in the same neighborhood, but without a water view. Just a privacy fence. But that one is more beautiful, and has a better floor plan. I like the one we have the current contract for, while my wife likes the other one. We're going to talk to the first salesperson tomorrow with a number in mind, a significant reduction from the contracted number we currently have. If we can't make a deal, we'll walk next door to the other builder's sales person, and buy the other one, which is already priced well and with nice incentives.

                          It will be interesting to see the first salesperson attempt to close us tomorrow. She refuses to give a final number to our agent, until she sees all of us in person. Who knows what tricks she has up her sleeve?

                          CopperC Online
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                          Copper
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                          #157

                          @Horace said in Bad timing:

                          she sees all of us in person.

                          Stay on your toes.

                          Those agents are really tricky.

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                          • CopperC Copper

                            @Horace said in Bad timing:

                            she sees all of us in person.

                            Stay on your toes.

                            Those agents are really tricky.

                            HoraceH Offline
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                            Horace
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                            #158

                            @Copper said in Bad timing:

                            @Horace said in Bad timing:

                            she sees all of us in person.

                            Stay on your toes.

                            Those agents are really tricky.

                            I think math will be involved. She has different incentives than most selling agents, since builders agents get commission from the financing, if you use their preferred lender. It won’t be a simple price negotiation. She will offer some complicated financing options which, in some hand wavy way, will be exactly like getting a lower price.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                            • CopperC Online
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                              Copper
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                              #159

                              You know those people living out of a shopping cart under the Santa Monica Pier?

                              Every one of them trusted a real estate agent.

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                              • MikM Away
                                MikM Away
                                Mik
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                                #160

                                Hey Horace, my x SIL is selling her place out in the Woodlands. A cool mil, but a nice place.

                                https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/28515-Champions-Ridge-Rd_Magnolia_TX_77354_M76492-71864

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                • MikM Mik

                                  Hey Horace, my x SIL is selling her place out in the Woodlands. A cool mil, but a nice place.

                                  https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/28515-Champions-Ridge-Rd_Magnolia_TX_77354_M76492-71864

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #161

                                  @Mik tell me those doors are not pink....

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • MikM Mik

                                    Hey Horace, my x SIL is selling her place out in the Woodlands. A cool mil, but a nice place.

                                    https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/28515-Champions-Ridge-Rd_Magnolia_TX_77354_M76492-71864

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                                    Horace
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                                    @Mik said in Bad timing:

                                    Hey Horace, my x SIL is selling her place out in the Woodlands. A cool mil, but a nice place.

                                    https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/28515-Champions-Ridge-Rd_Magnolia_TX_77354_M76492-71864

                                    Nice place, but more than we want to spend.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                      Horace
                                      wrote on last edited by Horace
                                      #163

                                      We had settled in a compromise yesterday but upon reflection it’s not going to work to get the place I like, even at a great price. I think we will end up with the better compromise of paying more for the place I like less.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                      • HoraceH Horace

                                        @Mik said in Bad timing:

                                        Hey Horace, my x SIL is selling her place out in the Woodlands. A cool mil, but a nice place.

                                        https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/28515-Champions-Ridge-Rd_Magnolia_TX_77354_M76492-71864

                                        Nice place, but more than we want to spend.

                                        MikM Away
                                        MikM Away
                                        Mik
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #164

                                        @Horace said in Bad timing:

                                        @Mik said in Bad timing:

                                        Hey Horace, my x SIL is selling her place out in the Woodlands. A cool mil, but a nice place.

                                        https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/28515-Champions-Ridge-Rd_Magnolia_TX_77354_M76492-71864

                                        Nice place, but more than we want to spend.

                                        Thought so. I cannot believe she got that house a few short years after declaring bankruptcy. I love her, but she's a CFO that cannot manage her own debt. She's run up six figure credit card debt several times.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                          Horace
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                                          Looks like we will move forward with the place we originally contracted for. It’s a compromise for the other half of the decision making team. I will be reminded of that, on occasion. We ended up with a 9% discount from the original list price, which matches with the discount we accepted on our own property sale, as compared to its peak value earlier in the year.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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