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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    jon-nyc
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    One story was written by Reuters US, one by Reuters Japan. Could simply be that Japan (like, say, the UK) defines it as 2Q negative GDP growth.

    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
    -Cormac McCarthy

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      One story was written by Reuters US, one by Reuters Japan. Could simply be that Japan (like, say, the UK) defines it as 2Q negative GDP growth.

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      @jon-nyc said in White House Redefines Recession:

      One story was written by Reuters US, one by Reuters Japan. Could simply be that Japan (like, say, the UK) defines it as 2Q negative GDP growth.

      Fair enough.

      So, let's stay with one reporter. The economics reporter for Politico, Ben White:

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      "IOW, ignore what I said two years ago, it's 'vexing'."

      My point is simple. You're right in that what defines a recession is more complex than simply two bad quarters, according to NEBR. Why haven't I been told that, until now?

      Either Ben White is ignorant about what a recession is, or he was ignorant about what a recession is. In either case, how is it that he does economics for Politico?

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        Horace
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        It would probably seem parsimonious to most people that verbal framing to support a political side is something people do, when they care about political sides. Reality, meet observer. Observer, meet reality.

        Education is extremely important.

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          https://morningconsult.com/2022/07/13/recession-outlook-us-economy-data/

          If perception is reality in politics, 65% of Americans do not agree with the Resident or Jon.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            .75 percent rate hike. Never gonna sell my home now. Darn this inflation! Biden has made me prisoner in my own home.

            Education is extremely important.

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              #47

              Huge pop in the stock market after the hike. Let’s see how the market reacts tomorrow. If memory serves, the previous hike was received by immediate enthusiasm in stocks, followed by a crash the next day.

              Education is extremely important.

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                Huge pop in the stock market after the hike. Let’s see how the market reacts tomorrow. If memory serves, the previous hike was received by immediate enthusiasm in stocks, followed by a crash the next day.

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                @Horace said in White House Redefines Recession:

                Huge pop in the stock market after the hike. Let’s see how the market reacts tomorrow. If memory serves, the previous hike was received by immediate enthusiasm in stocks, followed by a crash the next day.

                Today's increase in the US stock market was 100% due to President Biden. Tomorrows crash is due to things beyond his control. 555

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                  @Horace said in White House Redefines Recession:

                  Huge pop in the stock market after the hike. Let’s see how the market reacts tomorrow. If memory serves, the previous hike was received by immediate enthusiasm in stocks, followed by a crash the next day.

                  Today's increase in the US stock market was 100% due to President Biden. Tomorrows crash is due to things beyond his control. 555

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                  George K
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                  @taiwan_girl perfect.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                    @Horace said in White House Redefines Recession:

                    Huge pop in the stock market after the hike. Let’s see how the market reacts tomorrow. If memory serves, the previous hike was received by immediate enthusiasm in stocks, followed by a crash the next day.

                    Today's increase in the US stock market was 100% due to President Biden. Tomorrows crash is due to things beyond his control. 555

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                    @taiwan_girl said in White House Redefines Recession:

                    @Horace said in White House Redefines Recession:

                    Huge pop in the stock market after the hike. Let’s see how the market reacts tomorrow. If memory serves, the previous hike was received by immediate enthusiasm in stocks, followed by a crash the next day.

                    Today's increase in the US stock market was 100% due to President Biden. Tomorrows crash is due to things beyond his control. 555

                    58008

                    Education is extremely important.

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                      @taiwan_girl said in White House Redefines Recession:

                      @Horace said in White House Redefines Recession:

                      Huge pop in the stock market after the hike. Let’s see how the market reacts tomorrow. If memory serves, the previous hike was received by immediate enthusiasm in stocks, followed by a crash the next day.

                      Today's increase in the US stock market was 100% due to President Biden. Tomorrows crash is due to things beyond his control. 555

                      58008

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                      taiwan_girl
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                      @Horace ???

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                        CNBC

                        GDP fell 0.9% in the second quarter, the second straight decline and a strong recession signal

                        CNN

                        US economy contracts again, fueling recession fears

                        FOX

                        US economy enters technical recession after growth tumbles 0.9% in the second quarter

                        NPR (lol)

                        U.S. economy just had a 2nd quarter of negative growth. Is it in a recession?

                        Newsweek (lol again)

                        U.S. GDP Update Live: Economy Enters Recession Under Biden

                        The Brad

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                          @Horace ???

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                          @taiwan_girl said in White House Redefines Recession:

                          @Horace ???

                          It’s my prediction for the nasdaq after a competent president is at the helm.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                            CNBC

                            GDP fell 0.9% in the second quarter, the second straight decline and a strong recession signal

                            CNN

                            US economy contracts again, fueling recession fears

                            FOX

                            US economy enters technical recession after growth tumbles 0.9% in the second quarter

                            NPR (lol)

                            U.S. economy just had a 2nd quarter of negative growth. Is it in a recession?

                            Newsweek (lol again)

                            U.S. GDP Update Live: Economy Enters Recession Under Biden

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                            #54

                            @LuFins-Dad said in White House Redefines Recession:

                            CNBC

                            GDP fell 0.9% in the second quarter, the second straight decline and a strong recession signal

                            CNN

                            US economy contracts again, fueling recession fears

                            FOX

                            US economy enters technical recession after growth tumbles 0.9% in the second quarter

                            NPR (lol)

                            U.S. economy just had a 2nd quarter of negative growth. Is it in a recession?

                            Newsweek (lol again)

                            U.S. GDP Update Live: Economy Enters Recession Under Biden

                            If it walks like a duck, etc.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              @LuFins-Dad said in White House Redefines Recession:

                              CNBC

                              GDP fell 0.9% in the second quarter, the second straight decline and a strong recession signal

                              CNN

                              US economy contracts again, fueling recession fears

                              FOX

                              US economy enters technical recession after growth tumbles 0.9% in the second quarter

                              NPR (lol)

                              U.S. economy just had a 2nd quarter of negative growth. Is it in a recession?

                              Newsweek (lol again)

                              U.S. GDP Update Live: Economy Enters Recession Under Biden

                              If it walks like a duck, etc.

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                              George K
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                              @Jolly said in White House Redefines Recession:

                              If it walks like a duck, etc.

                              Yeah. What pisses me off is that, for all these decades, all these "experts" have tossed out the "R-word" to mean two quarters of contraction.

                              Never, did the talking heads say what they're saying now - "Wait a minute, that's not really what a recession is. You didn't hear us right two years, five years, twenty years, 32 years, 40 years ago. Why weren't you paying attention, pleb?"

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  LOL

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    As heard on the radio...

                                    Today, the same party that has trouble defining what a woman is, cannot define what a recession is.

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      Logic and reason and clarity in communication have become political weaknesses for the left. At which point, the Party of Science and Virtue (tm) handwaves them away. At least Trump isn't president.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                      • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                        @Horace said in White House Redefines Recession:

                                        Huge pop in the stock market after the hike. Let’s see how the market reacts tomorrow. If memory serves, the previous hike was received by immediate enthusiasm in stocks, followed by a crash the next day.

                                        Today's increase in the US stock market was 100% due to President Biden. Tomorrows crash is due to things beyond his control. 555

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                                        @taiwan_girl said in White House Redefines Recession:

                                        @Horace said in White House Redefines Recession:

                                        Huge pop in the stock market after the hike. Let’s see how the market reacts tomorrow. If memory serves, the previous hike was received by immediate enthusiasm in stocks, followed by a crash the next day.

                                        Today's increase in the US stock market was 100% due to President Biden. Tomorrows crash is due to things beyond his control. 555

                                        Okay, 4% increase in two days is due to President Biden. Future decreases are due to other things.

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                                        • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                          @taiwan_girl said in White House Redefines Recession:

                                          @Horace said in White House Redefines Recession:

                                          Huge pop in the stock market after the hike. Let’s see how the market reacts tomorrow. If memory serves, the previous hike was received by immediate enthusiasm in stocks, followed by a crash the next day.

                                          Today's increase in the US stock market was 100% due to President Biden. Tomorrows crash is due to things beyond his control. 555

                                          Okay, 4% increase in two days is due to President Biden. Future decreases are due to other things.

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                                          @taiwan_girl said in White House Redefines Recession:

                                          @taiwan_girl said in White House Redefines Recession:

                                          @Horace said in White House Redefines Recession:

                                          Huge pop in the stock market after the hike. Let’s see how the market reacts tomorrow. If memory serves, the previous hike was received by immediate enthusiasm in stocks, followed by a crash the next day.

                                          Today's increase in the US stock market was 100% due to President Biden. Tomorrows crash is due to things beyond his control. 555

                                          Okay, 4% increase in two days is due to President Biden. Future decreases are due to other things.

                                          You shoulda seen what Biden did for Apple earnings. Magnificent. I’m becoming a convert.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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